
As for the Skydance job itself (which I did read about when it was announced) What an outrageous decision!


Back in January 2018, when the project was still titled Amusement Park, Paramount fired its director Dylan Brown following an investigation over complaints of “inappropriate and unwanted conduct.” According to reports at the time, the former Pixar animator’s behavior included touching and caressing female co-workers.
It'd been almost 4 years since WDAS infamously announced Gigantic. Since it's cancellation, nothing original has been announced. Let that be a lesson to all WDAS Directors/Animators, come up with an original feature, you'll be off the lot, just like Greno.Sotiris wrote:John Lasseter, Nathan Greno and other Skydance employees at Dodger Stadium.
Lol, I love your posts about Gigantic and how you manage to insert it into almost any conversation. I still think we're better off without that film. It sounded awful, especially the bits of the music we heard.DisneyEra wrote: It'd been almost 4 years since WDAS infamously announced Gigantic. Since it's cancellation, nothing original has been announced. Let that be a lesson to all WDAS Directors/Animators, come up with an original feature, you'll be off the lot, just like Greno.
I would clearly take this over Ralph Breaks the Internet anytime. And who knows, maybe Gigantic could of struck a cord, original music, male lead, I mean, no one was doing backflips when Tangled/Frozen were first announced. Both those features had terrible marketing leading up to they're release. As for Gigantic, I'll stop posting about it when WDAS announces an original featureJeanGreyForever wrote:Lol, I love your posts about Gigantic and how you manage to insert it into almost any conversation. I still think we're better off without that film. It sounded awful, especially the bits of the music we heard.DisneyEra wrote: It'd been almost 4 years since WDAS infamously announced Gigantic. Since it's cancellation, nothing original has been announced. Let that be a lesson to all WDAS Directors/Animators, come up with an original feature, you'll be off the lot, just like Greno.
That's true. WIR2 was absolutely terrible and I'm still amazed it got as good reviews as it did. As little as I've liked of what I've seen of Gigantic, I would take it anyday over WIR2. It might have butchered the fairy tale of Jack and the Beanstalk but it wouldn't have poked fun of Disney's entire library and legacy.DisneyEra wrote:
I would clearly take this over Ralph Breaks the Internet anytime. And who knows, maybe Gigantic could of struck a cord, original music, male lead, I mean, no one was doing backflips when Tangled/Frozen were first announced. Both those features had terrible marketing leading up to they're release.
Ralph breaks the Internet wasn't even a true sequel, Disney just used it to promote they're vast properties, i.e. the Princesses. With Gigantic, it was pretty much like most of the other Revival features: you weren't expecting much, but went in with an open mind. I remember Boxoffice Mojo predicting that Frozen would do less than Tangled because of it's marketing. Or Bob Igar's remark that Zootopia could be a Sleeper Hit.JeanGreyForever wrote:That's true. WIR2 was absolutely terrible and I'm still amazed it got as good reviews as it did. As little as I've liked of what I've seen of Gigantic, I would take it anyday over WIR2. It might have butchered the fairy tale of Jack and the Beanstalk but it wouldn't have poked fun of Disney's entire library and legacy.DisneyEra wrote:
I would clearly take this over Ralph Breaks the Internet anytime. And who knows, maybe Gigantic could of struck a cord, original music, male lead, I mean, no one was doing backflips when Tangled/Frozen were first announced. Both those features had terrible marketing leading up to they're release.
The one advantage of Gigantic is that we would have had a male-led musical since all the previous ones (Tangled, Frozen, Moana) have centered on female characters and that sets a disturbing pattern that Disney films, particularly musicals, aren't applicable for males. The 90s were much more diverse with films with both male AND female protagonists who sang.
That's absolutely true. No one expected Frozen or Zootopia to become mammoth blockbusters and similarly, people assumed Moana would be a bigger hit than it actually was. I think it was actually outgrossed by Sing! in countries like the UK.DisneyEra wrote: Ralph breaks the Internet wasn't even a true sequel, Disney just used it to promote they're vast properties, i.e. the Princesses. With Gigantic, it was pretty much like most of the other Revival features: you weren't expecting much, but went in with an open mind. I remember Boxoffice Mojo predicting that Frozen would do less than Tangled because of it's marketing. Or Bob Igar's remark that Zootopia could be a Sleeper Hit.
In the 90s, we had Aladdin/Hunchback & Hercules, since then no male lead musical feature. Was very curious to see what Jack would of sounded like singing. Also, would have loved to have seen what Spain would of looked like
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/styl ... rozen.htmlWhen we talked four years ago, Ms. Lee praised Mr. Lasseter, who was then the animation boss, and talked about the importance of men supporting women as well as women supporting women. I asked how his resignation for “missteps,” unwanted touching and kissing, had affected her.
Did he ever ask her to help save him?
“No," she says. Referring to the period where he was already on a “sabbatical” and being investigated by the mouse house, she added: “John was very supportive when we were opening ‘Frozen’ on Broadway. He sent us all texts congratulating us. He has not asked anything of any of us. He was a great mentor to me and it was purely a working relationship, and I 100 percent knew that he believed in my talent. I was certainly in groups where we would all be in a room and he’d hug us all. Men too. ‘John was affectionate.’ That’s what we’d say. He had talked to both Pete and I about succession, so we knew we had his support. There were moments it was scary, because I think he only saw one screening of ‘Frozen 2’ and he had been a real partner on the first film.” Sometimes, she said, the operating ethos after his departure was “What would John say?” [...]
In January, there was a backlash when Mr. Lasseter got the top job at Skydance Animation. I wondered if she thought he should have that job.
“I don’t think it’s fair to ask me,” she says. “Because for those of us who work very closely, we all have very different relationships. So for me, I didn’t comment on it.” She says that, like many people, she wrestles with questions about whether there is a way back for some people, and who deserves another chance.
So the Waltification of this man continues. What wouldThere were moments it was scary, because I think he only saw one screening of ‘Frozen 2’ and he had been a real partner on the first film.” Sometimes, she said, the operating ethos after his departure was “What would John say?” [...]
I totally agreeJeanGreyForever wrote:Wow, I had a lot of esteem for Jennifer Lee but all of that has dissipated in an instant. She's no better than Lindsay Lohan here when Lohan claimed that Harvey Weinstein had never abused her so he must be innocent. Women really are sometimes worse to other women than even men are and powerful men like Lasseter and Weinstein exploit this to the fullest.
Yeah, her teasing a subliminal message in Frozen but refusing to explain it came across as trolling, especially when she mentions that this makes it funny for her.farerb wrote:TBH I used to like her back then before interviews about Frozen II came where she acted as if Frozen is the greatest thing to happen to Disney. This is just another thing that adds to that. (And they had Musker and Clements right there and they didn't promote them).