Toy Story 4

[Mooky]

I've never really had problems with most of Lucas' changes either, not even the change involving the ROTJ ghost featuring Anakin (which I frankly always felt was one of his better improvements).

I sort of understand the logic behind that change, but at the same time I don't. Seeing as Anakin was redeemed just before he died, I believe his force ghost should have remained played by Sebastian Shaw. On the other hand, can one act of redemption or kindness erase decades of murders and cruelties? Of course not, so I see why they'd have him restored to the last time he was actually "pure".

The main one I have an issue with is Jabba's appearance in A New Hope, because not only is the dialogue almost word-for-word from the earlier Greedo scene, but the CGI Jabba looks absolutely terrible.

That scene is rather awkward as well. Jabba seems more mellow than he is in RotJ, the bizarre English/Huttese exchange, and the Han calls him a "wonderful human being" on top of that. Just... weird. I assume it was partially done so they could stick Boba Fett in there?

I've always loved extended editions and changes in special effects after technology has advanced over the years. I was ecstatic that the first two Harry Potter films got extended editions, especially since they've always been the most book accurate. Never understood why the rest of the series never got the same treatment especially since the later installments have so many plotholes and unused footage (especially Order of the Phoenix). Prisoner of Azkaban is my fav HP film but I agree that it always bothered me that the Marauders were never addressed.

I agree. Unfortunately, Harry Potter films suffered from two things: one, all seven books not having been published prior to filming and two, they didn't have their own Kevin Feige to oversee and keep close attention to every detail (J.K. Rowling doesn't count, she approved or agreed to some of the more questionable choices, and appears rather fickle). Also, David Yates sometimes seemed embarrassed of making fantasy films and he's been in charge of the movies for more than a decade now. One thing they excelled at was the casting. I would welcome a new adaptation, but a new cast would take a lot of time getting used to.

Anyway, out of the eight films, I find that PoA and GoF captured the essence of the books the best, minor issues aside. They had a chance of making extended versions with those ultimate editions but passed on it for some reason. Sadly, I don't think the Marauder scene was ever filmed and that's a shame.

Sorry for being off-topic!

[JeanGreyForever]

I sort of understand the logic behind that change, but at the same time I don't. Seeing as Anakin was redeemed just before he died, I believe his force ghost should have remained played by Sebastian Shaw. On the other hand, can one act of redemption or kindness erase decades of murders and cruelties? Of course not, so I see why they'd have him restored to the last time he was actually "pure".

That scene is rather awkward as well. Jabba seems more mellow than he is in RotJ, the bizarre English/Huttese exchange, and the Han calls him a "wonderful human being" on top of that. Just... weird. I assume it was partially done so they could stick Boba Fett in there?

I agree. Unfortunately, Harry Potter films suffered from two things: one, all seven books not having been published prior to filming and two, they didn't have their own Kevin Feige to oversee and keep close attention to every detail (J.K. Rowling doesn't count, she approved or agreed to some of the more questionable choices, and appears rather fickle). Also, David Yates sometimes seemed embarrassed of making fantasy films and he's been in charge of the movies for more than a decade now. One thing they excelled at was the casting. I would welcome a new adaptation, but a new cast would take a lot of time getting used to.

Anyway, out of the eight films, I find that PoA and GoF captured the essence of the books the best, minor issues aside. They had a chance of making extended versions with those ultimate editions but passed on it for some reason. Sadly, I don't think the Marauder scene was ever filmed and that's a shame.

Sorry for being off-topic!

It's difficult to buy Anakin's redemption unless you consider that the real Anakin died way back in Revenge of the Sith like Obi-Wan said, leaving only Vader. Like you pointed out, one act of good doesn't really redeem him, especially since he's doing all of this to save his son so that's still selfishly motivated anyway one could argue. Some people have pointed out that his ambition was to rule the galaxy with his son, so even if he had survived after killing the Emperor, I'm not sure I believe that he would suddenly deject to the Rebel Alliance. He would just take over in Palpatine's position most likely while still trying to turn his son over to the dark side.

The Jabba scene was always meant to be part of the original film but was cut. Back then, it was a human actor since Lucas hadn't conceived Jabba's final design until ROTJ. So they replaced the human actor with the CGI visuals which haven't aged well and cause a discrepancy where Han actually has to step over Jabba's tail. Fett's inclusion was just an easter egg for fans back then.

I've read that despite what we think, Rowling didn't have nearly as much control as we'd like to believe so a lot of the changes weren't really her fault so much as her just knowing she couldn't win every battle. Which is ironic, because she's still probably the literary author with the most power and influence over film adaptations of her works, because other authors don't even get her amount of input. I would definitely love to see an HBO or Netflix style series of the books, but like you said, it would be difficult to forget the original cast. Maybe young actors to replace the kids could still work, almost like every generation has their own Harry, Hermione, Ron, etc. but characters like Snape, Hagrid, McGonagall, etc. being recast wouldn't really work.

I'm not really a big fan of Goblet of Fire myself, although I understand that the book had lots of extraneous information that was never going to make it into the film. Half-Blood Prince is the most butchered imo and Order of the Phoenix's running time always shocks me because it's the longest book but the shortest film. And apparently, there's lots of unused footage like Harry tearing up Dumbledore's office or McGonagall getting injured and thus her presence being removed from Hogwarts too, that we haven't ever seen even as deleted scenes.

And going back to Toy Story so we're not entirely off-topic, I'm almost surprised they haven't yet remastered the old films. Nemo and Incredibles too for that matter.

[Kyle]

Well, 3D films aren't really remastered, they technically already do go back to the original source 3D files and re render the whole movie. They even fixed woody clipping through andy's bedsheets.

[JeanGreyForever]

Well, 3D films aren't really remastered, they technically already do go back to the original source 3D files and re render the whole movie. They even fixed woody clipping through andy's bedsheets.

But the animation wouldn't have to be changed. In theory, if they replaced all the models for the characters, objects, and settings, then they could use the same seamless animation as in the original film and it would appear as though the film were the same just updated.

[Sotiris]

Japanese theatrical trailer and new image.


Source: https://www.disney.co.jp/movie/toy4/new ... 09_01.html

[Kyle]

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[Sotiris]

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Do any of these links work for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzHa3sOtFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cYG-AJ5-6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMbjphDW-vY

[D82]

Japanese theatrical trailer and new image.

There was a lot of new footage in it! I wish I could understand what they say. I'm also curious about the mission it seems some of the characters embark on in the film. I wonder what the objective of that mission is.

[D82]

'Toy Story 4': Rashida Jones, John Lasseter Among 8 Who Will Share "Story By" Credits
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behin ... ts-1209677

[Sotiris]

So, the ending to Toy Story 4 has been leaked online. Our predictions were true. Gabby Gabby gets her own kid and a happy ending. Woody decides to stay at the carnival with Bo and help lost toys they find while the rest of the toy gang goes back home with Bonnie.

[Disney's Divinity]

So the idea that Bo might die was wrong. Oh, well, I'm not mad about that because it means more of Annie Potts in TS5. I wonder what would've made Tim Allen cry then?

[Sotiris]

I wonder what would've made Tim Allen cry then?

It must have been the goodbye scene between Woody and Buzz.

[JeanGreyForever]

I wonder what would've made Tim Allen cry then?

It must have been the goodbye scene between Woody and Buzz.

Not to mention the rest of the toys since he's always basically been their leader.

[Kyle]

It was my own fault for highlighting but I really wish I hadn't. I dont think I even know what tab I was on at the moment.

I just wish these kind of things just weren't posted here, period. Maybe linking would be enough in the future?

[Rumpelstiltskin]

A little off-topic, but could there be a spin-off that's not about Woody and Buzz (and technically not a sequel)?

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a2731 ... off-movie/

Shared universes are all the rage these days in cinema, although some don't fare quite as well as the MCU.

But could we ever have one in the world of Toy Story? Sure, a movie without Woody (Tom Hanks) and Buzz (Tim Allen) seems unthinkable, but Toy Story 4 producer Jonas Rivera isn't so sure.

"Hard for me to answer because I am so programmed to Woody and Buzz, but I suppose so. If there's a Star Wars movie without Luke Skywalker, and they're similar, there's such a large world of implied history and toys around the world," he told Digital Spy.

"I'm also programmed with the never-say-never, there could also be a million ways you could go. I just love the story of Woody and this character dealing with these truths."

[Disney's Divinity]

I just wish these kind of things just weren't posted here, period.

I'm glad that they are. That's the whole reason spoiler marks exist, as a middle ground for people who want to read spoilers and people who want to avoid them.

[Kyle]

Sure, that's why they're there, I'm just baffled why anyone would even want to know these things before experiencing the movie.

[Sotiris]

I'm sorry you accidentally got spoiled, Kyle. That sucks. Some people just don't mind spoilers or even seek them out. There was a study recently suggesting that knowing spoilers beforehand actually enhances your enjoyment.

[JeanGreyForever]

I prefer spoilers and pretty much always go into a movie knowing beforehand what's going to happen. It prepares me and allows me to catch up on some things I would need a second viewing otherwise to know. And frankly, while there are some films that are better viewed cold, a Toy Story film is not one of them.

[Patricier21]

So, the ending to Toy Story 4 has been leaked online. Our predictions were true. Gabby Gabby gets her own kid and a happy ending. Woody decides to stay at the carnival with Bo and help lost toys they find while the rest of the toy gang goes back home with Bonnie.

You could at least not mention something like "our predictions were true" because then its still spoils without highlighting the bar for those who perhaps read your predictions/followed & read this forum earlier.