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Disney Duster wrote:I really like Zootopia too, but maybe the place you have it makes sense compared to the even better other movies. I don't get why The Lion King is so low just because of the comic relief though.
Well, that's the thing. I love comic relief characters, for example I like Meeko from Pocahontas or Hei Hei from Moana, but I just absolutely don't find Timon and Pumbaa funny and that, to me, is a problem and what ruins the movie for me.

Spoiler alert: I will admit I despise the Gargoyle statues from Hunchback almost as much as I do Timon and Pumbaa, but that movie is pretty high on my list though... 8)
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Khonnor wrote:
Spoiler alert: I will admit I despise the Gargoyle statues from Hunchback almost as much as I do Timon and Pumbaa, but that movie is pretty high on my list though... 8)
Honestly, same here. I despise the gargoyles, specifically Hugo. I still rank that film super high though because everything else in the film is so exceptional that I'm willing to overlook a few minutes of nonsense. They're so deeply integrated into the film though that they're difficult to avoid. I've tried to watch fanedits of the film, but none of them can entirely remove the gargoyles.
Sotiris wrote: Really? I remember reports of them selling well when Moana first premiered.
Retail was helped by solid sales of Moana merchandise, but that wasn't enough to match the sales of Frozen and Star Wars merchandise in the prior-year quarter.
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I remember there was a lot of talk on here about Moana merchandise not selling very well, but I think likely what was being said was that it just wasn't selling as well as Frozen, going by your links. Although Moana merchandise hasn't been very present because there's not much in my local Disney Store and according to this, even the Disney Parks don't have very much of her.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WaltDisneyWorl ... _merch_go/
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27. Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937)
There's no denying this is a classic and an important film from a historical perspective. It still amazes me when people tell me Disney movies or the parks are only for kids or adults saying they would never watch a Disney movie or go to the parks without kids. Or maybe they are denying it as I do sometimes feel there is a sort of taboo in admitting you like Disney stuff, when you don't have children. Thankfully, I don't care what others will think of me liking Disney.

However, though I do appreciate Snow White for what it is, I'm not particularly fond of the title character. I think she comes off as annoying and sometimes like a spoiled brat. Her behavior is at times irritating and over the top. But I guess that's how girls and princesses were portrayed back then. I adore the Evil Queen though and her transformation scene is truly terrifying and a work of art, being made in the mid-30s. The Dwarfs are fun characters too, though some more than others. I do wish The Prince had a bigger role than what ended up in the movie.

It will never be one of my all time favorites, but I'll never mind watching it. If only for nostalgic reasons.

26. Pinocchio (1940)
For the most part the same story as with Snow White, but to me it also suffers from the same thing for which I don't like Peter Pan and Alice In Wonderland: unlikable characters. Watching this movie now, some scenes and character's motivations are downright creepy. Pinocchio himself, I just want to repeatedly slap in the face with a frying pan. He does redeem himself toward the end though. Jiminy Cricket and Gepetto are okay, and I adore Figaro. There are some pretty amazing scenes, art-wise though.

25. Mulan (1998)
This is actually a pretty fun and good movie. I like the story, I like (most) of the characters and it goes pretty fast. If it weren't for Mushu! He really ruins the movie for me. Another example of a sidekick that they're trying too hard with. And fail miserably. If he wasn't in the movie at all, or very different from what he's like now, I'm sure this would be a bit higher in my list.

24. Dinosaur (2000)
I know, I'm probably the only one on the planet who can appreciate it this movie, but I really like this one. The post-apocalypse setting and the despair trying to survive is very well done. The story is somewhat predictable though and so are the characters. The villain is very one-dimensional.

23. The Jungle Book (1967)
A movie I have learned to appreciate more and more over the years. I'm still not a big fan of the animation style (which was apparent in the 60s and 70s), but it actually is a good movie with likable characters! I enjoyed the live-action remake as well.

22. Fun And Fancy Free (1947)
The first time I saw this movie, was when it got released on Blu-Ray bundled with Ichabod. It's a cute and fun movie with some nice short stories. After the dreadful Saludos and Caballeros and all the music-shorts movies, this is welcome change. It brings a smile to my face a couple of times while watching it.

21. Bambi (1942)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with this movie. It's beautifully done and the characters are okay, but it does sometime drag, which makes it feel a little boring or dull. However, when it does have a cute scene or an action scene it makes up for it though. I actually enjoyed the sequel as well.

20. 101 Dalmatians (1961)
Great movie and fun! Cruella is of course a great villain and the story gets pretty grim actually at times with implied actions. It would be higher on my list, if the animation wasn't so rough, as I mentioned before with movies from this era. I think it's a pity as this would look amazing if they would re-do it.

19. The Emperor's New Groove (2000)
Not much to say about this one. From the 1998-2007 era, this might be the best and most fun one. The jokes are funny, it's nicely over the top without being annoying or cringe-worthy and the story/deeper meaning is nice too without being overly preachy. Always enjoy watching this.

18. The Princess And The Frog (2009)
I don't know what it is with this movie. I guess this movie was released at a bad time and that's why it bombed, which is truly unfortunate. It really does feel like the movies from the 90s, but perhaps it does try a little too hard to be that. I think if it was released a couple of years after it did, it might have done better. For example, after the success of Tangled or Frozen.
However, it's a beautifully done movie. It's fun and fast. The songs are nice, the villain is pretty cool (although I admit, he doesn't do much) and the side characters are fun too (Charlotte, Ray, Louis and Mama Odie). I enjoy watching this movie, but somehow...it is kinda forgettable, which is a real shame.

Please feel free to agree or disagree as always or share your own rankings of these movies! :)



Only 17 movies left!

These are the ones still left: Dumbo - Lady And The Tramp - Sleeping Beauty - The Rescuers - The Fox And The Hound - The Great Mouse Detective - The Little Mermaid - The Rescuers Down Under - Beauty And The Beast - Aladdin - Pocahontas - The Hunchback Of Notre Dame - Lilo And Stitch - Bolt - Tangled - Frozen - Big Hero 6

Anyone'd like to predict what my Top 5 will be? :mischief:
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Khonnor wrote:Anyone'd like to predict what my Top 5 will be? :mischief:
- The Little Mermaid
- Beauty and the Beast
- Aladdin
- Pocahontas
- Tangled

?

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Khonnor wrote:I'm not particularly fond of the title character. I think she comes off as annoying and sometimes like a spoiled brat. Her behavior is at times irritating and over the top. But I guess that's how girls and princesses were portrayed back then.
I think that Snow White makes a good role model for her kindness and perseverance. I know that I try to be more like Snow White in my everyday life, but I'll never be as nice as she is.
Khonnor wrote:Pinocchio himself, I just want to repeatedly slap in the face with a frying pan.
But he's like a baby; he doesn't know better. Jiminy does what he can!
Khonnor wrote:Dinosaur (2000)
I know, I'm probably the only one on the planet who can appreciate it this movie, but I really like this one.
I really like Dinosaur, too. It obviously looks amazing, but I think that it's an exciting story and I feel for the characters.

I'm really happy that TF&tH is so high on your list; it's one of my favorites, and it doesn't get much love. And yay you have Bolt high on your list, too!

Without going through your old posts to see what films are your favorites, my guess for your Top 5 are Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, Lilo and Stitch, Tangled. •{done w/o reading Mooky's guesses!)•
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Mooky wrote:- The Little Mermaid
- Beauty and the Beast
- Aladdin
- Pocahontas
- Tangled
3 out of 5 are correct 8)
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Khonnor wrote:Pinocchio himself, I just want to repeatedly slap in the face with a frying pan.
But he's like a baby; he doesn't know better. Jiminy does what he can!
I get that, but that doesn't make him any less annoying imo :D
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Khonnor wrote:Dinosaur (2000)
I know, I'm probably the only one on the planet who can appreciate it this movie, but I really like this one.
I really like Dinosaur, too. It obviously looks amazing, but I think that it's an exciting story and I feel for the characters.
Awesome! And exactly! It's an exciting story. I love the ride at WDW as well. I'm sad it's apparently going to be re-themed for an Indiana Jones ride.
blackcauldron85 wrote:I'm really happy that TF&tH is so high on your list; it's one of my favorites, and it doesn't get much love. And yay you have Bolt high on your list, too!
The Fox & The Hound is indeed pretty high on my list. Might be for nostalgic reasons (as I grew up with that film, as I'm born in 1983, two years after it was released) though, ... I do feel it's pretty underrated. Same with Bolt.
blackcauldron85 wrote:Without going through your old posts to see what films are your favorites, my guess for your Top 5 are Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, Lilo and Stitch, Tangled. •{done w/o reading Mooky's guesses!)•
Only 2 out of 5 correct! :D
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The Great Mouse Detective
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
Pocahontas
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farerb wrote:The Great Mouse Detective
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
Pocahontas
Is that your Top 5?

Lion King was number 29 on my list ;-)
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Khonnor wrote:
farerb wrote:The Great Mouse Detective
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
Pocahontas
Is that your Top 5?

Lion King was number 29 on my list ;-)
It's not my top 5, I might have missed it. In that case I switch Lion King to Hunchback of Notre Dame
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farerb wrote:It's not my top 5, I might have missed it. In that case I switch Lion King to Hunchback of Notre Dame
Cool... in that case you guessed 2 out of 5 ;-)
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blackcauldron85 wrote: But he's like a baby; he doesn't know better. Jiminy does what he can!
I get that, but that doesn't make him any less annoying imo :D
I wasn't trying to imply that you didn't get that, because I know we all know Pinocc's new to the life thing, but he doesn't have it easy! I can't imagine being in his (tiny wooden) shoes! #IWillAlwaysDefendHim!

I think it'd be interesting to rank all the DACs, see how we all differ/agree; can't wait for the next round!
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Pocahontas
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
The Little Mermaid
Tangled
Frozen
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For Snow White, I'm curious why you think she comes off as a spoiled brat. As for her melodramatic portrayal, I don't think that was really all because of how female characters were depicted back then (Alice, Cinderella, etc. are much more toned down) as much as because this was the first animated feature ever, they wanted to make sure that characters really resonated with people in the audience. They needed to make these characters extra dramatic as if to make them jump off the screen because the fear was that people would only see them as colored drawings and wouldn't be able to connect with the product of paint and pencil.

For Pinocchio, I never had a problem with the character myself because of his pure innocence (if you find the Disney version annoying, you wouldn't be able to stand his portrayal in the actual book). Jiminy I find to be highly overrated and not a very good sidekick at all. Don't know why he's so iconic.

The humor doesn't work for me in Mulan. It's way too shoehorned in, especially after she leaves to go to the army. A lot of the gender jokes, for example, haven't aged well and characters like Mushu and Yao take up too much screentime.

I'm not the biggest fans of 101 Dalmatians and The Jungle Book either. They're two of the weakest of Walt's films for me, even if both are still miles ahead of the rest of the Disney canon's library. Bambi is a film that I can appreciate but will probably never enjoy watching regularly like some of the other films, so I understand your opinion there.

I've heard enough people giving Dinosaur the time of day that I should probably watch it again because the film never left an impression on me. If nothing else, I do enjoy the ride though (haven't heard about it being replaced by Indiana Jones though). The Emperor's New Groove is a funny movie but it has never felt very Disneyesque for me. It feels like a Warner Brothers cartoon and it doesn't help that the director of TENG was also the director for WB's Cats Don't Dance.

I'm guessing these for your top five. Although I'm guessing that if The Hunchback of Notre Dame isn't in your top five, it'll be in your top ten.
Sleeping Beauty
The Little Mermaid
Aladdin
Pocahontas
Frozen
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Khonnor, I really like that you are doing this list! What is the deeper meaning of The Emporer's New Groove?

My guess for your top five is The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin in that order.

JeanGreyForever, I never realized that I guess yes, that may be why the characters in Snow White are the way they are. And yes, The Emporer's New Groove is more like Warner Brothers. I liked the movie a lot as a kid though, so I actually still like it today, but maybe it shouldn't have been a Disney movie.
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Regarding Dinosaur, I personally don't count as a canon film since it was made by The Secret Lab rather than WDFA and it is not a fully animated film, it is a hybrid film. If Mary Poppins or Who Framed Roger Rabbit don't count, this shouldn't as well. Honestly in my opinion they only inserted it to market Tangled as the 50th feature. Regarding the film itself I don't hate it but it's not a favorite of mine.
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JeanGreyForever wrote:For Snow White, I'm curious why you think she comes off as a spoiled brat. As for her melodramatic portrayal, I don't think that was really all because of how female characters were depicted back then (Alice, Cinderella, etc. are much more toned down) as much as because this was the first animated feature ever, they wanted to make sure that characters really resonated with people in the audience. They needed to make these characters extra dramatic as if to make them jump off the screen because the fear was that people would only see them as colored drawings and wouldn't be able to connect with the product of paint and pencil.
I admit, let me change my opinion a bit. I didn't mean a spoiled brat necessarily, but I just imagine if she was a current girl, she would be oblivious to the world around her and taking selfies while doing a duckface. That kinda person. :P

Snow White however wasn't the first animated feature ever, as a lot of seem to mistakenly believe. It's the first one made completely by hand-drawn animation. There are at least 7 known animated features before Snow White, of which unfortunately half or so haven't survived. These were full length animated movies (often with sound and or color), but also incorporated shadow techniques, cutouts, and or stop motion.
JeanGreyForever wrote:The humor doesn't work for me in Mulan. It's way too shoehorned in, especially after she leaves to go to the army. A lot of the gender jokes, for example, haven't aged well and characters like Mushu and Yao take up too much screentime.
Exactly, my main issue being Mushu. Yao I don't mind actually. I recently re-watched this movie (obviously, as it's the whole point I made this thread) and think the gender-issues are actually still pretty on point and accurate. Maybe it's because I'm in a different part of the world, but here in The Netherlands there's a lot of gender discussions going on, mostly to do with transgender people.
JeanGreyForever wrote:I've heard enough people giving Dinosaur the time of day that I should probably watch it again because the film never left an impression on me. If nothing else, I do enjoy the ride though (haven't heard about it being replaced by Indiana Jones though). The Emperor's New Groove is a funny movie but it has never felt very Disneyesque for me. It feels like a Warner Brothers cartoon and it doesn't help that the director of TENG was also the director for WB's Cats Don't Dance.
I do feel that between 2000 and 2008 Disney seemed all over the place. The movies differ very much from one another and not all feel Disney-esque to me. For example, I think Dinosaur and Bolt seem more like they would belong with Pixar. But still, it is what it is.
I must say I don't watch a whole lot of animated movies, so I don't think I know any of the WB movies. I do know I enjoy TENG and it does feel Disney to me. It's not a lot different from Tarzan or such, feel wise.
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Disney Duster wrote:Khonnor, I really like that you are doing this list! What is the deeper meaning of The Emporer's New Groove?

My guess for your top five is The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin in that order.
Thanks! Glad you're liking this list. I was afraid you would never speak to me again after putting Cindy at 33 :D

The deeper meaning to TENG seemed obvious to me. Or, well...to me it's about being nice to other people and judging a book by its cover as the saying goes. Kuzco is very cruel and judgemental to others, even though he probably is not aware of it. Or well, maybe he is, but he's not aware it's bothering others? Then, when he gets cursed and turned into a hideous llama and sees what Pacha goes through, he starts to learn the message.
He was just lonely I guess, and couldn't get people to hang out with him because he was the ruler. Instead he made them fear him, without maybe realizing that. When Pacha becomes his friend, he learns there's more than being mean.

Something like that? It's already been months now since my re-watch. I should probably start watching these movies all over again.... rotfl


About my Top 5....you're close. 8)
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farerb wrote:Regarding Dinosaur, I personally don't count as a canon film since it was made by The Secret Lab rather than WDFA and it is not a fully animated film, it is a hybrid film. If Mary Poppins or Who Framed Roger Rabbit don't count, this shouldn't as well. Honestly in my opinion they only inserted it to market Tangled as the 50th feature. Regarding the film itself I don't hate it but it's not a favorite of mine.
I thought Dinosaur was labeled as the 39th Animated Classic since it was released in 2000 in the US? I don't think they planned Tangled as the 50th Feature that far in advance. On the wiki page it does say Walt Disney Animated Studios made it though...
I agree it's a Hybrid movie, but not in the same sense as Mary Poppins, Bedknobs or Roger Rabbit imo. Those are truly animation/live action hybrids. With Dinosaur, I believe only the background/environmental shots are real. There are no humans interacting with the animated Dinosaurs. But I do agree it would have been more suitable as a Pixar movie, in 2000.
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farerb wrote:Regarding Dinosaur, I personally don't count as a canon film since it was made by The Secret Lab rather than WDFA
I thought Dinosaur was labeled as the 39th Animated Classic since it was released in 2000 in the US? I don't think they planned Tangled as the 50th Feature that far in advance. On the wiki page it does say Walt Disney Animated Studios made it though...
I agree it's a Hybrid movie, but not in the same sense as Mary Poppins, Bedknobs or Roger Rabbit imo. Those are truly animation/live action hybrids. With Dinosaur, I believe only the background/environmental shots are real. There are no humans interacting with the animated Dinosaurs. But I do agree it would have been more suitable as a Pixar movie, in 2000.
It wasn't listed as part of the Disney Animated Canon when it was released (at least not in the US), but because they wanted Tangled to be extra special and not be *just* Animated Feature 49, they added Dinosaur, pushing everything else released afterwards up a #. WDFA staff did also work on the film, not just The Secret Lab. But the live action hybrids not counting, since WDFA helped make those, is a valid point. But in some countries, The Wild replaces Dinosaur in the cannon list.
Khonnor wrote:I do feel that between 2000 and 2008 Disney seemed all over the place. The movies differ very much from one another and not all feel Disney-esque to me. For example, I think Dinosaur and Bolt seem more like they would belong with Pixar. But still, it is what it is.
Are there any DACs prior to 2000 that you feel not Disneyesque? Or is it just the so-called DreamWorks-type humor (modern humor) in the newer films that make them feel not Disneyesque to you?
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