Aladdin (Live-Action)

[estefan]

Honestly, when will Disney / their reps / creative teams redoing all their Classics understand that you truly DON'T have to bash the original plot / characters / story or whatever. They can all exist in harmony, just because this is your 'fresh take' doesn't guarantee that it is in any way better. Not at all.

That's what I appreciate about Jon Favreau whenever he talks about his Disney redos. When he was promoting The Jungle Book, I never saw him undermine the animated film. He frequently praised the animation and shouted out the work of the Nine Old Men for what they accomplished on that movie. I similarly haven't seen him badmouth The Lion King or see it as the inferior version.

[Atlantica]

Yeah exactly, I liked his take on things. The same with Kenneth Branagh, he was vocally very respectful to the original story. He spoke of filling in some missing parts from the animation ( as far as I can remember ) and that was about it ?

Just don't need these producers or whoever shooting their mouth off. . . absolutely so silly

[Tristy]

It also seems like Tim Burton hasn't said anything disparaging about the original Dumbo either. He has spoken positively about it. Now whether that means his take will be good or not remains to be seen.

[Disney's Divinity]

Precisely. This film is probably going to be as forgotten as the live-action BATB will in a few years and decades from now, there'll be making another one anyway.

I'm not sure why you single out B&tB. All the remakes will be forgotten. Alice, TJB, Maleficent, Cinderella, etc. will all be like 101 Dalmatians from the '90s. Aladdin won't be unique in that way.

Whoever it is making this film has made it clear in the past they wish this wasn't a re-make and that they were doing their own version of "Aladdin." They seemed to dislike the fact that it's a musical, especially. *shrug* I don't why they took the job if they didn't want to be saddled with remaking something?

As for the Jasmine stuff, I don't consider that bashing the character so much as recognizing what she was and wasn't in the original film.

[JeanGreyForever]

That's what I appreciate about Jon Favreau whenever he talks about his Disney redos. When he was promoting The Jungle Book, I never saw him undermine the animated film. He frequently praised the animation and shouted out the work of the Nine Old Men for what they accomplished on that movie. I similarly haven't seen him badmouth The Lion King or see it as the inferior version.

Yeah exactly, I liked his take on things. The same with Kenneth Branagh, he was vocally very respectful to the original story. He spoke of filling in some missing parts from the animation ( as far as I can remember ) and that was about it ?

Completely agree that both of these directors were so incredibly respectful to the original source material and clearly wanted to honor Walt's work on them rather than try and diminish his legacy and these classic stories. Isn't it funny how these are also the two remakes that have been the most critically acclaimed and liked by audiences since their releases? Maybe there's a correlation there between the remake quality/how audiences respond to it and how the directors actually feel about the original.

I'm not sure why you single out B&tB. All the remakes will be forgotten. Alice, TJB, Maleficent, Cinderella, etc. will all be like 101 Dalmatians from the '90s. Aladdin won't be unique in that way.

As for the Jasmine stuff, I don't consider that bashing the character so much as recognizing what she was and wasn't in the original film.

I singled out BATB because it was the highest-grossing out of them all and thus the most high-profile. Clearly, if that will be forgotten then the rest will be as well.

You've made your views on Jasmine very clear, but it seems to be a minority opinion since everyone else believes she was already empowered enough in the first film. This is just like the treatment Belle got for her live-action remake, so I'm not surprised by the condescending attitude towards Jasmine but that doesn't make it any less bitter.

[Disney's Divinity]

You've made your views on Jasmine very clear, but it seems to be a minority opinion

It is the minority opinion here, but opinions don't hold more or less value by the number of people who agree with them. But even on the subject of majority opinion, it's worth remembering this forum doesn't represent real life very well. The B&tB remake, for example, was enormously successful and Emma Watson is pretty popular, but you'd be flabbergasted by that fact if this forum--where Cinderella (the past, the present, the future) makes up 90% of the conversation in every thread--was your point of reference.

This is just like the treatment Belle got for her live-action remake

Yes, it is. And I had no problem with that either. There was no problem.

[JeanGreyForever]

It is the minority opinion here, but opinions don't hold more or less value by the number of people who agree with them. But even on the subject of majority opinion, it's worth remembering this forum doesn't represent real life very well. The B&tB remake, for example, was enormously successful and Emma Watson is pretty popular, but you'd be flabbergasted by that fact if this forum--where Cinderella (the past, the present, the future) makes up 90% of the conversation in every thread--was your point of reference.
Yes, it is. And I had no problem with that either. There was no problem.

I agree with you that opinions are weighted differently in different places. However, although the BATB remake was super successful, there were plenty of things that have been criticized from Emma Watson's acting and singing, the fake CGI, the new songs, the additions to the plot, the supposed fixing of plotholes, Gaston's characterization, LeFou's sexuality, and of course Belle's new dress, to name a few. That isn't just on here. I browse several different sites like Reddit, Fanpop, YouTube, and Tumblr, and these opinions are super popular there. Just yesterday, I saw a post on the Disney Confessions page in Tumblr which is super prevalent, which is that the best live-action remakes were The Jungle Book and Cinderella and that the BATB remake was a letdown ultimately.

There was no problem on your end. However, that doesn't negate the fact that there were people who were pissed off and even hurt from how the animated Belle was being treated, both here and on those other aforementioned sites.

[Disney Duster]

Yeah exactly, I liked his take on things. The same with Kenneth Branagh, he was vocally very respectful to the original story. He spoke of filling in some missing parts from the animation ( as far as I can remember ) and that was about it ?

Yes, I think that is a good assesment. And he would say things like "Cinderella isn't a pushover" but not saying only the new Cinderella wasn't.

JeanGreyForever, I totally agree, except I actually think Cinderella could be remembered. Yes, I know I'm biased. I just think it's a classic that stands on its own.

[Sotiris]

Q: Disney has a formidable 2019 slate, with Avengers, Lion King, Frozen 2 and Episode IX. How do you manage expectations?

Alan Horn: It's always a challenge because — and I say this with love and respect for media — the thing about these big movies is they get a lot of attention, whether positive or negative. [...] These are very high-profile movies. If Aladdin, which I happen to think is a terrific film, doesn't work somehow, that's big news and much bigger news than if a movie somewhere else, like The Kid Who Would Be King [at Fox,] doesn't work.

Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/ ... er-1187054

[ChrisLyne]

I like that Horn's addressing the negative reaction rather than ignoring it. This combined with the DisInsider reports on the final trailer being delay whilst they get the Genie's CG finished/improved says to me that they will do what they can to fix things. Whether they have enough time is a different question, but at least they're acknowledging it and trying to do make things better.

Going back to other director's being respectful of the animated versions, I feel we should acknowledge that Guy Ritchie (at least to my knowledge) hasn't said anything disrespectful to the original. It's the producer who keeps making the stupid comments.

[JeanGreyForever]

JeanGreyForever, I totally agree, except I actually think Cinderella could be remembered. Yes, I know I'm biased. I just think it's a classic that stands on its own.

The film is well-liked amongst audiences, along with The Jungle Book remake, but most of these films end up forgotten unless Disney keeps them in the public consciousness. Most of Disney's live-action hits have ended up forgotten now, even the blockbuster ones like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and Swiss Family Robinson. Mary Poppins is the sole exception. Films like Hocus Pocus survive from TV airings and building cult audiences. I don't see any of the live-action remakes going that route.

[Disney Duster]

Hm. It's true other than Mary Poppins even Disney's other best, classic live-action films don't get anything these days. Except like, the Bedknobs and Broomsticks musical. But remember for Othello Disney said the live-action Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast were classics? So I wonder if maybe they will stay. I know though that at least thanks to Blu-ray lasting so long, I may get to see my favorite live-action film, Cinderella (2015), for as long as I live. I just wish future generations could enjoy it, too.

[Farerb]

Cinderella benefits from a good cast, but it didn't do something unique with the tale that hasn't been done countless of times before.

[JTurner]

I honestly don't see this performing very well at all. I'm not even the hugest fan of Aladdin, but that film had a certain timelessness to it that this live action will probably never achieve. That and Robin Williams was THE sole reason why it became such a hit. And for good reason: Williams was perfect as the Genie. His mannerisms, impressions, etc., all of them were what made audiences coming to see it again and again. That and it's also a better animated film than the sequels or series. Castellanetta did an adequate replacement, but there's only one Robin Williams. I don't like the way this remake is shaping up, honestly. It doesn't look very appealing to me, honestly.

[Sotiris]

Q: Was A Whole New World translated well into live action?

The DisInsider: From what I've heard, yes.

Source: https://i.imgur.com/nmvvKqT.jpg

[Disney Duster]

Farerb, that's kind of exactly why I like it. It was meant to be the pinnacle of live-action Cinderellas, and be the best one, so it took the best things from all versions and combined with a good cast and such beauty in the costumes amd sets, the CGI which did the best live-action Cinderella transformations, and the best direction any live-action Cinderellas have gotten, this just was the perfect movie for me, and I wish others could see and enjoy it.

[thedisneyspirit]

Meh, Ever After is better. Besides, they were so desperate to make her different from the original animated one, they go and accidentally turn her much more passive and dumb than the original character ever was.

[Sotiris]

No mention of a second new song. They better include it in the soundtrack! It's the least they can do.

Q: What can you tell us? Give us a secret, a tease, a something that we wouldn't expect or maybe we would expect.

Mena Massoud: There's a lot of great stunt work in this that I'm really excited about. It's kind of my favorite part of the film. Naomi has a new song for Jasmine that's going to blow your socks off.

Q: It's going to top A While New World?

Mena Massoud: You know, I don't think any one song tops any other song but it's new and it's amazing.

Source: https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/a ... ive-120396

[Disney Duster]

Yes, Ever After was better. No, they did not make the character dumb.

[Sotiris]

I can't believe Disney actually released a statement over the genie backlash.

Disney wouldn't comment on the marketing aspects of the film, which has stoked excitement with fans who made 2016's live-action "The Jungle Book" a major hit. The studio stood behind its Genie in a statement to USA Today: “We have one of the most anticipated films of the year and are confident that audiences will fall in love with the Genie and all of the characters when it hits the big screen this May.”

Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/mov ... 877176002/