The fact it's from the showrunners of OUAT has me worried.
The Muppets are coming to Disney+. Josh Gad (Frozen) and the creative duo behind Once Upon a Time Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz have created a show called Muppets Live Another Day. The show takes place right after the events of 1984's The Muppets Take Manhattan. Kermit disbands the gang but they are brought back together after the mysterious disappearance of Rowlf. We should expect to see it released on Disney + in 2020.
Sotiris wrote:The fact it's from the showrunners of OUAT has me worried
Lol, expect lots of plot holes, flashbacks, memory wipes, and an overall disregard for continuity.
We’re a dyad in the Force. Two that are one. "I offered you my hand once. You wanted to take it." - Kylo Ren "I did want to take your hand. Ben's hand." - Rey
^I'd say only the first season was strong. Post-3A the series started going off the rails. I still enjoyed it for what it was but you can't really call it a well-written show.
Based on the title and logline, the new Muppets series seems to be going for a James Bond angle.
From what I've heard Damon Lindelof was a ghost writer for the first season and was heavily involved. He also gave them an outline about plot points to do in the future like Henry's father is Rumple's son and probably 311 as a series finale. That's why season 2-3A kept the strong theme of the importance of family.
It really went downhill afterwards when they decided to do fan pandering, focusing on ridiculous ships and inserting Disney's popular IP.
I only watched the first season of "Once Upon a Time" and I found it wasn't my thing, but I see nothing wrong with giving the showrunners this series.
If not this show, what do you think would a better series for them to oversee? And please, no snarky answers. I believe, unless you're a monster or a creep, every creative person in Hollywood deserves to work and be able to feed their family.
"There are two wolves and they are always fighting. One is darkness and despair. The other is light and hope. Which wolf wins? Whichever one you feed." - Casey Newton, Tomorrowland
farerb wrote:From what I've heard Damon Lindelof was a ghost writer for the first season and was heavily involved. He also gave them an outline about plot points to do in the future like Henry's father is Rumple's son and probably 311 as a series finale. That's why season 2-3A kept the strong theme of the importance of family. It really went downhill afterwards when they decided to do fan pandering, focusing on ridiculous ships and inserting Disney's popular IP.
Well, that certainly explains the significant drop in quality after 3A.
estefan wrote:If not this show, what do you think would a better series for them to oversee? And please, no snarky answers. I believe, unless you're a monster or a creep, every creative person in Hollywood deserves to work and be able to feed their family.
No one is entitled to a Hollywood job. Especially not wealthy creatives who have already been given their fair share of opportunities. There's a finite number of projects and positions in the entertainment industry so perhaps if we stopped rewarding mediocre, straight white men with ongoing work, more talented people from marginalized groups would finally be able to break through.
Even Season 3A was criticized a lot. People weren't fond of how OUAT made another familial connection with Rumple and Peter and complained that the entire season was just the main cast going through the jungle episode after episode. The supporting characters like Wendy, the Darlings, and even Ursula (the real Ursula) were wasted. I think people appreciated Neal's death the most since he wasn't popular at all. That and I guess Rumple's sacrifice but no one was surprised when he was brought back right after.
As for Season 3B, it introduced Zelena who was one of my favs even if another familial plot twist had gotten incredibly stale by that point. However, Snow's baby was a pointless arc and Robin was brought into the fold which makes this the biggest waste lol.
We’re a dyad in the Force. Two that are one. "I offered you my hand once. You wanted to take it." - Kylo Ren "I did want to take your hand. Ben's hand." - Rey
JeanGreyForever wrote:Even Season 3A was criticized a lot. People weren't fond of how OUAT made another familial connection with Rumple and Peter and complained that the entire season was just the main cast going through the jungle episode after episode. The supporting characters like Wendy, the Darlings, and even Ursula (the real Ursula) were wasted. I think people appreciated Neal's death the most since he wasn't popular at all. That and I guess Rumple's sacrifice but no one was surprised when he was brought back right after.
As for Season 3B, it introduced Zelena who was one of my favs even if another familial plot twist had gotten incredibly stale by that point. However, Snow's baby was a pointless arc and Robin was brought into the fold which makes this the biggest waste lol.
I commented on the Once Upon a Time thread because I don't want to derail the muppets thread. Hope it's okay.
The project has been cancelled. Rumor has it, scheduling conflicts were to blame.
The Muppets are among the most recognizable characters in the Disney IP library, and Disney+ had been trying for more than a year to get a new scripted series with them off the ground, going through two rounds of development with different creative teams, including a take co-written by Josh Gad, Muppets Live Another Day, which went to pilot. Set right after the events in 1984’s The Muppets Take Manhattan, that project features Kermit and the gang searching for Rowlf.
Disney+ will not be proceeding with Muppets Live Another Day, its scripted comedy series project written/executive produced by Frozen star Josh Gad and Once Upon a Time creators Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis. The ABC Signature-produced comedy, which had been in the works at Disney’s upcoming streaming platform for awhile, had a pilot order. It will not go forward over discrepancy between the writing team’s creative vision and that of the top brass at Disney-owned Muppet Studio, which last year became part of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products in a company reorganization. Muppets Live Another Day was to pick up right where 1984’s The Muppets Take Manhattan left off and focus on Kermit as he must bring the Muppets back together (after being disbanded) to help locate the missing Rowlf.
That sucks. Whose schedule I wonder... There's no way to save the show? Move the schedule?? I'm so disappointed. Disney needs to do something with The Muppets, or sell them to someone who cares. What a waste.