Ralph Breaks the Internet

[Sotiris]

Didn't Rich Moore say the original, extended princesses scene will be released on home video? Well, where is it? It's not listed among the deleted scenes.

[Sotiris]

• Last promo before the film leaves theaters featuring Tiana and Naveen.

• Promo for the home video release featuring the princesses.

[JeanGreyForever]

Didn't Rich Moore say the original, extended princesses scene will be released on home video? Well, where is it? It's not listed among the deleted scenes.

Disney says a lot of things that are supposedly meant to be bonus features on their home video releases. They rarely ever pan out that way though.

[Sotiris]

Disney has released the entire clip of the song "A Place Called Slaughter Race": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNq4VxhzaoQ

The also released the musical sequence with a portion of the princess scene leading up to it.

[blackcauldron85]

The Grandma is actually about Slaughter Race, which will be so fun to watch.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/EVq5dK

I think Opposites and/or A Bubble of One could be about Felix/Calhoun.

I love all the grandmas! Thanks for sharing that!!

[Sotiris]

The film has been nominated for Best Animated Feature at the Oscars but not for Best Original Song. Disappointed but not surprised. It was a long shot to begin with.

[NeoSuperBlissey]

The film has been nominated for Best Animated Feature at the Oscars but not for Best Original Song.

I call b.s. on that one. At least Disney is well-represented with "All the Stars" from Black Panther and "The Place Where Lost Things Go" from Mary Poppins Returns.


Ah, who am I kidding? Alan got robbed!

[Sotiris]

I found one song made for the film from Indonesia, though it's not a version of "In This Place" but a completely different one titled "Sebuah Lagu" from a group called Payung Teduh.

Disney Vietnam also created an original song titled "Phá đảo thế giới ảo" performed by the group UNI5 and singer Han Sara.

[Disney's Divinity]

I'm not surprised it was left out at the Oscars. I'm more surprised MPR actually got a song nomination. I thought maybe two songs would be nominated from A Star Is Born?

[Sotiris]

Warner Bros only submitted "Shallow" from A Star Is Born so it was impossible for another song to be nominated.

[Disney's Divinity]

I guessed there might be something like that. 2 songs would divide the vote. A shame though, because the music from that film deserved nominations more than WIR2 or MPR.

[JeanGreyForever]

I'm seeing all these complaints about how Menken wasn't nominated at the Oscars, but I'm really curious as to how many of you legitimately felt that the song was Oscar-worthy material. As in, if Menken hadn't been behind the song, would you still rank it as a classic alongside When You Wish Upon a Star, Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah, Under the Sea, A Whole New World, Let It Go, etc.?

[disneyprincess11]

I'm disappointed, but not surprised. This song hasn't been getting any nominations at all. I don't know if anyone is taking it seriously since it's a random musical number in a non-musical movie or if this year is more crowded than usual.

But there's good news: With Remember Me, Shallow, All the Stars, and This is Me as the Grammy nominations this year, APCSR should be safe for a slot at the Grammy's next year.

[Sotiris]

I'm seeing all these complaints about how Menken wasn't nominated at the Oscars, but I'm really curious as to how many of you legitimately felt that the song was Oscar-worthy material.

But plenty of Oscar-winning songs aren't Oscar-worthy.

As in, if Menken hadn't been behind the song, would you still rank it as a classic alongside When You Wish Upon a Star, Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah, Under the Sea, A Whole New World, Let It Go, etc.?

In terms of lyrics no, but in terms of music, definitely. If you change the lyrics to play it straight and get a decent singer to perform it, it becomes a beautiful, sweet song that can easily stand next to other classic 'I Want' songs.

In any case, I never had any delusions that this song could ever win. I hoped it could get a nomination but I knew even that was a long shot. After Evermore being snubbed and I See the Light losing, a nomination would have proven to the industry Menken still got it. It would have raised his profile, making him more relevant and in demand. He needs that if he's ever going to get another original musical.

[Disney Duster]

I must be the only one who really doesn't like "A Place Called Slaughter Race".

[Sotiris]

The filmmakers said that the only reason Humphrey the Bear and Sorcerer Mickey were 2D in the film instead of CG is because they didn't have enough time to build and rig more CG models. The love and respect for hand-drawn animation at Disney never ceases to amaze me.

Q: A lot of cameos in CGI but one in 2D, Humphrey the Bear. Why?

Rich Moore: At first we said 'Oh, it's because it's from a short or something' but the serious answer to that is that we wanted to pack the scene with as many Easter eggs as possible and when the idea came up to have Humphrey in the scene it was too late to build a CG model of him because it takes so long to build and rig CG models. We still have several 2D animators working at the studio and one of them is a legendary artist named Mark Henn who's been animating at Disney for almost forty years. And we said 'Mark, can you animate that cycle of picking up the litter dance that Humphrey does in the short so we can put it in the background?' He's like 'sure, I can do that!'. And he did it in about a week and finished that little piece of animation which would have been impossible to do in CG that quickly, to build something from the ground up. So, though it kind of breaks the rules of our world, I'm glad it's in there.

Phil Johnston: Although, there's another 2D element in that scene as well. Mickey at the top of the sorcerer's hat.

Rich Moore: There's big, wide shot where Mickey's dressed as the sorcerer's apprentice that was also hand-drawn. It was all in service to pack the scene with as much stuff as we could. I just thought of another one; Peter Pan's shadow in the scene with Grumpy. When Vanellope runs past Grumpy, in the background it's Peter Pan's shadow on the wall.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA6Oh8iibSc

According to directors Rich Moore and Phil Johnston, everyone loves developing Easter eggs, though there never seem to be enough, and like with deleted scenes, you never know which will actually survive through to the final production. “Number one, planning for a film’s Easter eggs is literally just like planning on making actual Easter eggs… you should always buy more eggs than you think you’re going to need,” Moore explains. “Some are going to crack and you’re going to mess up the color on some, so you’re going to need a lot of eggs. For example, as we were planning how much stuff we wanted to throw into the “Oh My Disney” scene, by the time we were actually working on it in production, it felt like we needed more. It felt like we didn’t plan enough for it. It got to the point where we couldn’t build any more CG characters or we would have missed our deadline for finishing the movie. So, we started animating them in 2D, which we could do pretty quickly.”

Source: https://www.awn.com/animationworld/brok ... lph-breaks

[DisneyEra]

After 2 months this still has yet to match at least the original. Even with the inclusion of the Princesses, it didn't break out. With a $175 million budget, this is just unexpectable. Ask yourself, Would Gigantic have done any worse

[JeanGreyForever]

But plenty of Oscar-winning songs aren't Oscar-worthy.

In terms of lyrics no, but in terms of music, definitely. If you change the lyrics to play it straight and get a decent singer to perform it, it becomes a beautiful, sweet song that can easily stand next to other classic 'I Want' songs.

Well, that's certainly true lol.

The melody is the only thing really going for the song, but as pointed out by several others, it's incredibly reminiscent of his previous works. It never seems like it can quite stand on its own. New lyrics and a different vocalist would definitely improve the song since even the pop version isn't really a step up, but even then, I would call this a weaker effort of his. He was clearly constrained by the filmmakers since they wanted to go as far as use a scrapped Enchanted song.

I must be the only one who really doesn't like "A Place Called Slaughter Race".

No, I'm with you there. And I haven't seen the song garner much attraction so it doesn't seem especially beloved by fans. I don't think our opinion is really that unpopular here.

After 2 months this still has yet to match at least the original. Even with the inclusion of the Princesses, it didn't break out. With a $175 million budget, this is just unexpectable. Ask yourself, Would Gigantic have done any worse

I'm pleased to hear this but as a fan of the original, I'm afraid the film's legacy will be sullied. The Rescuers used to be considered an A-List picture by Disney until the sequel tanked and then it was forever relegated with the other B-Lister films like The Aristocats and Robin Hood (which in fact have gained popularity over the years). I fear a similar fate for WIR now, but I can't say it's undeserved.

[estefan]

Ralph Breaks the Internet looks to do about the same worldwide numbers as Wreck-It Ralph, which I would call a respectful number and shows this is a consistently successful property. It still managed to make $2 million at the domestic box-office on its 9th weekend of release, which shows it's been holding nicely even with Into the Spider-Verse garnering most of the animated attention right now. I think it will manage to squeak past the $200 million domestic mark, either naturally or through Disney pairing it in a double bill with "Captain Marvel."

[Sotiris]

After 2 months this still has yet to match at least the original. Even with the inclusion of the Princesses, it didn't break out.

It's evident that the film didn't perform as well as they expected. The directors backtracked from the possibility of another sequel while doing press in France a few days ago. Previously, they were much more open to another installment and had even shared some possible ideas for a second sequel.

Q: Are you guys going to do a third film?

Phil Johnston: I don't think so. I mean, never say never, but I think of these two films very much as two chapters in their lives. The friendship was born in the first film and it grows and then it goes through a big challenge in the second film and then resolves in even stronger place. So, to me the two chapters fit perfectly together right now. I don't know.

Rich Moore: However, we did think after the first one that that one was buttoned-up perfectly too so you never know.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA6Oh8iibSc