Ralph Breaks the Internet

[Sotiris]

All we know they could be deliberately setting up Alan to fail on purpose again.

I really hope that isn't the case but them submitting the movie version over the pop one is certainly suspicious. The movie version is supposed to be a funny parody with joke lyrics and very specify to the movie, so it won't be taken seriously as a contender. With the pop version, the song would actually have had a fighting chance of getting nominated.

[disneyprincess11]

In fact, we barely see Knowsmore, Spamly, Big Dan and all the video games from the arcade and I still feel disappointed for Yesss who is so amazing but not very used at the level of her design and her skills to me. Shank has a decent screentime hopefully and she's so great.

Your English is great, don't worry Sounding by the books, everyone has a decent screen time, minus KnowsMore. My problem isn't the new characters getting screen time. I don't get why they couldn't make more time for Calhoun/Felix and the racers.

All we know they could be deliberately setting up Alan to fail on purpose again.

I really hope that isn't the case but them submitting the movie version over the pop one is certainly suspicious. The movie version is supposed to be a funny parody with joke lyrics and very specify to the movie, so it won't be taken seriously as a contender. With the pop version, the song would actually have had a fighting chance of getting nominated.

Bingo! Plus according to the book, she sings about "dirty pigeons and smelly rats" and it is also sung by the shark who ate the dog, thieves, and a creepy clown. The song sounds hilarious, yet classical and possibly smart and therefore, the sophisticated Academy will not take it seriously, a la Brave vs. Wreck It Ralph. Bless the song no matter how good it is. I already love both versions, but the truth is the movie version does not stand a chance at the Oscars and like Tangled losing Best Song *cough* Lassenter's favoritism *cough* & similar to 2D failing b/c of Winnie the Pooh *cough* release date *cough*, the lack of nomination will be blamed on Alan Menken and in this case *cough* set up for failure *cough*

[estefan]

This is just a guess on my part, as I haven't watched the movie, but is it possible the pop version of Menken's song is played after the Imagine Dragons song in the credits? Because Academy rules specify that for an end credits song to be eligible, it needs to be the first song played. So it's likely they can't submit that version of the song for Academy voters.

"There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits."

https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/fil ... _rules.pdf

The Silverman-Gadot version of "A Place Called Slaughter Race" might actually have the advantage, anyway, since it's played within the movie itself and the studios have to submit the actual clips that's then viewed by the music branch.

Original Song submissions must further be accompanied by:
• A digital video clip of no more than three minutes of each song, showing how the song is used in the motion picture

And a song accompanied by memorable imagery, rather than scrolling credits, has a good chance of sticking out in voters' minds. The Academy isn't entirely opposed to comical songs, as "Everything is Awesome" and "Man or Muppet" have been nominated in recent years.

[Sotiris]

^The pop version is in fact played as the second end credits song but that doesn't get Disney completely off the hook. They could have easily put it as the first one and chosen to promote it as the movie's main song instead of the Imagine Dragons one.

[D82]

Here's hoping this will lead to him writing another musical for them soon.

I hope that too. Now it doesn't seem as impossible as before.

This is just a guess on my part, as I haven't watched the movie, but is it possible the pop version of Menken's song is played after the Imagine Dragons song in the credits? Because Academy rules specify that for an end credits song to be eligible, it needs to be the first song played. So it's likely they can't submit that version of the song for Academy voters.

I hadn't thought of that. It's true, they couldn't submit the end credits version then. But, I don't find it so strange that they would choose the movie version over the other. They did that with films like Frozen and Moana.

I already forgot the one of Vanellope which was just very "Broadway-like" though it was a fun parody and that the french voice of Van did a great job (but you won't care for that, lol).

Did you get to listen to the end credits version of Vanellope's song, Prince Kido? If so, do you think it's better than the movie version?

[JeanGreyForever]

Sure he made so great memorable songs for Disney but I already forgot the one of Vanellope which was just very "Broadway-like" though it was a fun parody and that the french voice of Van did a great job (but you won't care for that, lol).

Not surprised to hear this at all. I know Menken would be wasted on this film.

[disneyprincess11]

I’ll respond to some of you later (I’m on my phone so it’s harder for me), but either the last trailer or the first clip is being released tonight

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpcRgiWhaOh ... aqjfz9dc92

[DisneyFan09]

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this, but here it goes; I think it's strange and unsuitable that this movie will have a "I Want"-number for Vanellope. A number that is going to even be sung by her and another character. Due to the Ralph universe never called for the characters bursting into song, it seems contrived and shoehorned in to even have it. And yes, I know that the number is justified due to this movie being about Princesses and Vanellope actually being one. But to be fair, I think it's ridiculous, regardless of it being composed by Menken or not. Sorry, folks.

[disneyprincess11]

The awards site has posted two stills of the ending and....
https://www.waltdisneystudiosawards.com ... t/consider

I'm probably going to get a lot of hate for this, but here it goes; I think it's strange and unsuitable that this movie will have a "I Want"-number for Vanellope. A number that is going to even be sung by her and another character. Due to the Ralph universe never called for the characters bursting into song, it seems contrived and shoehorned in to even have it. And yes, I know that the number is justified due to this movie being about Princesses and Vanellope actually being one. But to be fair, I think it's ridiculous, regardless of it being composed by Menken or not. Sorry, folks.

No, no, no, no - I feel the same way. And trust me, you aren't the only one. I know I sound two-face, I can still love something so much and be critical of it. The problems are:

1) Like you said, the first movie wasn't a musical. So, the song messes up the rules of the existing world. If Disney kept the King Candy song in the first film, this song would make way more sense. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at the least if Lassenter himself axed the number, telling from the addition of the Lopezes and the timing of the song being added after Lassenter's firing, and Rich approaching Alan with Rich finally getting his musical number added.

2) Vanellope may be a president Disney Princess, but she is the least traditional of all of them by personality and wit. That said, Vanellope is definitely not one who bursts into song. They may have paved the way for her to sing, but the thing is: She's not a girly girl, there's no aspect of her musically like the other's (minus Merida). Plus, she gets the idea from the princesses to sing. She struggles to find a song for a while, but is she really the character who would care about singing?

3) Adding to #2, if a Wreck-It Ralph character has to sing, it would be King Candy. Why? His personality matches with a song. He's wacky, bizarre, jolly and unpredictable. He's based off Ed Wynn and his Mad Hatter. Therefore, it would not be surprising at the least if King Candy had a musical number.

4) Adding to #3, Sugar Rush is, like its fake king, wacky, bizarre, jolly and unpredictable. A random musical number with children and happy candy would go with that. Slaughter Race is a new world, so it can get away with a musical number for the game's rules. But, what is it about the place that would tell you it bursts into song? Yes, the characters aren't what they seem, but still.

5) They're definitely pushing Vanellope to be just like the Disney Princesses, not that I'm complaining too much. Wreck-It ralph came right before Frozen and after PaTF, which tanked and Tangled, which did good, but didn't completely welcome back fairytales in pop culture. Disney was still ashamed of their princesses and the princess/presidency gags were a clear jab at the girls. Now 6 years later, Frozen came out and it's okay for people to love princesses once again. It's as if the executives were like, "Hey! Vanellope is a princess! Let's make money out of her in the lineup and force her onto these different things that the first movie was against." And it really shows through the song. Not much the Princess scene b/c she's still in character.

I love my girl, the Princess scenes, and (already) this song and I'm grateful for all of this, but Disney needs to know its creations and stick with the lane. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

This is just a guess on my part, as I haven't watched the movie, but is it possible the pop version of Menken's song is played after the Imagine Dragons song in the credits? Because Academy rules specify that for an end credits song to be eligible, it needs to be the first song played. So it's likely they can't submit that version of the song for Academy voters.

"There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits."

https://www.oscars.org/sites/oscars/fil ... _rules.pdf

Ah, that does make much more sense why the movie version is being nominated. Thanks for posting! Not holding my breath for a nomination though.

Sure he made so great memorable songs for Disney but I already forgot the one of Vanellope which was just very "Broadway-like" though it was a fun parody and that the french voice of Van did a great job (but you won't care for that, lol).

Not surprised to hear this at all. I know Menken would be wasted on this film.

Better than no Alan. I do have a feeling the pop version might be better lyric-wise. If the version is more beautiful and moving and emotional, they should have made that the movie version to give the movie some epic Disney, instead of the parody. But, we'll find out soon enough.

[JeanGreyForever]

Better than no Alan. I do have a feeling the pop version might be better lyric-wise. If the version is more beautiful and moving and emotional, they should have made that the movie version to give the movie some epic Disney, instead of the parody. But, we'll find out soon enough.

That's true, but I would have liked his comeback to be in a film more deserving of his artistic sensibilities. Then again, Disney doesn't have any more musicals planned (besides Frozen 2) so I guess there wouldn't really be any options right now for him anyway. I am looking forward to the pop version but it would have been nice if he could have penned that as well.

Also, I didn't know that Wreck-It Ralph deleted a song for King Candy. I think a song could easily have fit him and the world of Sugar Rush. In fact, it would have helped differentiate it more from Hero's Duty and the other game worlds we see. The deleted song really should have been on the Blu-Ray.

[Sotiris]

I do have a feeling the pop version might be better lyric-wise. If the version is more beautiful and moving and emotional, they should have made that the movie version to give the movie some epic Disney, instead of the parody.

I would have preferred that too but I understand why they used a parody version in the movie instead of something more traditional and earnest. They needed the song to be in line with the whole 'let's poke fun at ourselves' vibe of the princess scene as well as keeping Vanellope in-character (well, as much she can be in this movie). Vanellope has a very junenile sense of humor and if she were to sing a song, it would be filled with funny and tongue-in-cheek lyrics. Considering the Internet is filled with parodies of the Disney princess songs, having something similar in the movie would remain consistent with the sequel's conceit.

Rich is clearly the one who pushed for a musical sequence. During the making of the first movie he wanted to shoot the "real world" in live-action and have a song in it (inspired by his love for Who Framed Roger Rabbit) but Lasseter shot down both of his ideas. As soon as Lasseter left, he was able to at least incorporate one of his rejected ideas, despite the movie already being in advanced production stage.

[disneyprincess11]

Rich is clearly the one who pushed for a musical sequence. During the making of the first movie he wanted to shoot the "real world" in live-action and have a song (inspired by his love for Who Framed Roger Rabbit) but Lasseter shot down both of his ideas. As soon as Lasseter left he was able to at least incorporate one of his rejected ideas, despite the movie already being in advanced production stage.

I recently found an interview with them at NYCC where they hinted her song and he looked extremely excited about it. I’m just really glad Rich can have his creative liberties now and I hope all directors can now with Lasseter being gone. I mean, Rich got to his dream song as soon as John stepped out of the door! His love for Roger Rabbit explains the princess scene as well. I wonder if the president-princess swap is because of Lasseter’s firing.

[bruno_wbt]

I made a video of all the scenes of the Disney Princesses in Ralph Breaks the Internet that we have so far and I also put some cool pictures that I just foud, check it out and tell me what you think!


https://youtu.be/IG6ZDhdgrK0

[DisneyFan09]

No, no, no, no - I feel the same way. And trust me, you aren't the only one.

Aaah, thanks

[blackcauldron85]

I made a video of all the scenes of the Disney Princesses in Ralph Breaks the Internet that we have so far and I also put some cool pictures that I just foud, check it out and tell me what you think!


https://youtu.be/IG6ZDhdgrK0

Great job! Thanks for sharing that- I hadn't seen all the photos before!

My husband had a question: We know that the Sugar Rush racers live with Calhoun/Felix, and Sour Bill lives with Gene, so does pretty much everyone in Niceland open their homes to every displaced Sugar Rush inhabitant?

[blackcauldron85]

The video embedded in this article has a couple minor clips I hadn't seen before, but they probably had been posted here + I just missed them:

New 'Wreck-It Ralph 2' TV Spot Is Filled With Cameos
https://comicbook.com/movies/amp/2018/1 ... me-cameos/

[Sotiris]

• KnowsMore clip, Happy Birthday, Internet! promo, and new TV spot featuring a glimpse of Calhoun and Felix.

• How to Break the Internet by Wreck-It Ralph Twitter thread that includes short videos, including the scene with the princesses taking selfies.

• New stills from the princess scene.

• More international posters.

[D82]

They're doing a great promotion for the film. A lot of work must've been put into making these videos. The bows don't look the same, but I wonder if the cat in the second one is a cameo of Marie from The Aristocats.

The scene when the protagonists meet KnowsMore is shorter than I expected. I think he's a cool character, I hope he doesn't just appear in that scene.

Some small updates:

• New TV spots:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgScusK97t0
  https://twitter.com/DisneyStudiosLA/sta ... 4504180736

• 3D painting at WDAS: https://twitter.com/rothgar/status/1056974144053624832

• And more pictures of promotion at the theaters:

• https://twitter.com/luvkahlua/status/10 ... 5230822405
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqfag31X4AA6Yk9.jpg

[disneyprincess11]

Minus the screaming goat and that weird mouth one, Disney actually did a great job choosing the videos. Ralph’s reaction video to the puppy and kittens sleeping together made me smile so hard (You can tell John C. Reilly is having so much fun), but one of my favorites was the baby’s reaction to getting his head hit by the ball. The fact that Disney made that up made it funnier.

[Sotiris]

Photos of the Wrecked Princesses from "The Art of" book.

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