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Sicoe Vlad wrote: I love it!!!!
I'm glad I'm not at a table of one. The only thing about the picture that worries me a little is Beast's design. Obviously he couldn't be exactly like the animated film anymore than Belle's dress could, but I hope they'll be able to translate all the emotion the character has...
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Thank you unprincess, JeanGreyForever, and blackcauldron85! I don't know about backshadowing, lol, maybe just foreshadowing how Belle will break the spell before the rose petals all fall. But good thinking on how they might have a dress with roses on it for the castle to give to "the one" to break the spell. But really, thanks for liking my designs.

Disney's Divinity, you may be right that the, what I would also call pleats, wouldn't work well in live-action, but I wonder if they could have managed some slight kind of pleats or divisions or folds in the skirt. Anyway, my rose designs without the pleats I think could have worked, too.

As for this new picture of the dress...uh oh...for me, I really hate the back of it, and I don't like how the dress doesn't even look floor-length. From the previous picture, though, I know she does have sleeves, I just believe they are, from what I can tell, cap sleeves. I liked those. They weren't historically accurate like I wanted most, but they are nice.

This time, I now actually really like the Beast's designs on his jacket. Why couldn't Belle's dress match that. Look like a yellow ballgown but with embroidery on it? Which is pretty much what I tried to do... I like Belle's hair though.
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Me, yesterday wrote:The only thing about the picture that worries me a little is Beast's design.
I just wanted to clarify that I meant Beast’s face/body design, not the ballroom outfit here. I think his ballroom outfit looks perfect, no problems with that at all.
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I took another stab at the dress. I am no longer ok with the ones we've seen, now seeing the back and the bottom. It really does look like just an ok prom dress and fancy gloves I feel would not fit because they would be for a ball gown and this gown they're giving us...doesn't look like a ball gown. Anyway, I kept her hair because I do like her hair (but gave her Belle's bangs) and I kept the necklace. I have the bodice and off-the-shoulder neckline like from the animated film's dress and what I believe are semi-historically accurate sleeves, but I made a big change to the skirt. Here's the original, followed by the slightly colored version:
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By the way blackcauldron85, for that first picture in here I drew and posted, I actually took inspiration from the rose designs at the bottom of the dress she will actually have in the live-action film.
Disney's Divinity wrote:...I have a feeling the... I guess you'd call them pleats wouldn't have looked as nicely in real life as they do in animated form, I don't know.
Just to be sure, by pleats did you mean the vertical sections her dress is divided into, or the rounded, scrunched "ripples" that go all the way down those sections?

Regardless of which you meant, here's a picture from the slightly re-designed stage musical version of the film where her dress looks great while still being looking very much like the animated film:
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And here is the Disney World musical version that looks extremely like the film, and I think it looks great!:
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disneyprincess11 wrote:In other words, according to the BWW Forums, "Days in the Sun" and that "People remember us" songs have been cut from the final film. It is just the Beast's song
What?! I sincerely hope that's not true. :angry:

Well, good news/update:
I had heard Cosette too. In regards to the cut songs that is complete BS as Jack Morrisey confirmed recently there are five new songs in the film that have all made the cut. So we get all the songs from the film minus Human Again and an additional five songs. From what I gather there is four in the movie and one in the credits.

A song between Belle and her father, Days in the sun by the Enchanted objects, Forever More by the Beast and a reprise of Beauty and the Beast by Aurda at the end of the film. So that's twelve songs in the entire production.
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I’m so glad Audra will be doing the B&tB (reprise)! I don’t think Thompson will really pull off the ballroom one and I’m glad there’ll at least be a brief Audra version of it, if nothing else. (I wish they’d have her cover the full thing in the End Credits or on the soundtrack, tbh.)
Disney Duster wrote: And here is the Disney World musical version that looks extremely like the film, and I think it looks great!:
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The first picture wouldn't work for me, but looking at the second... Eh. It looks good for a park costume, but I'm not sure it would look great in-film, personally.
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disneyprincess11 wrote:
Well, good news/update:
I had heard Cosette too. In regards to the cut songs that is complete BS as Jack Morrisey confirmed recently there are five new songs in the film that have all made the cut. So we get all the songs from the film minus Human Again and an additional five songs. From what I gather there is four in the movie and one in the credits.

A song between Belle and her father, Days in the sun by the Enchanted objects, Forever More by the Beast and a reprise of Beauty and the Beast by Aurda at the end of the film. So that's twelve songs in the entire production.

That's great news!

Then I guess we now know all the titles of the new songs:

- "People Remember Us" - Belle & Maurice
- "Forever More" - Beast
- "Days in the Sun" - Enchanted Objects
- "Beauty and the Beast (Reprise)" - Wardrobe
- "Our Song Lives On" - End Credits
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I'm glad the songs are being kept in. Was hoping for a Belle solo but the Belle and Maurice duet works for me too.
Disney's Divinity wrote:I’m so glad Audra will be doing the B&tB (reprise)! I don’t think Thompson will really pull off the ballroom one and I’m glad there’ll at least be a brief Audra version of it, if nothing else. (I wish they’d have her cover the full thing in the End Credits or on the soundtrack, tbh.)
Disney Duster wrote: And here is the Disney World musical version that looks extremely like the film, and I think it looks great!:
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The first picture wouldn't work for me, but looking at the second... Eh. It looks good for a park costume, but I'm not sure it would look great in-film, personally.
I wish Audra was singing the original version too but as long as we get some of her singing, I'll be happy.

I don't like either of those pictures either. The first one looks better in other shots...it looks more like a birthday cake in the picture posted. And I agree that the second dress is fine for the Disney Parks but it won't work on the big screen. I think this is one of the more difficult dresses to translate well, but I don't think it is impossible and the final product we are getting is just despicable. I'd gladly take either of the two dresses above or what we're getting now (hairstyle too).

BTW Disney Duster, I love your new Belle design too. I love the 1700s style of sleeves and I wish that was being kept for Belle rather than the bare arms which feel too modern and prom-dressy. It worked fine on Cinderella, but it doesn't translate well here at all.
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Almost all of these songs seems pretty bland for me. I can almost hear how People Remember Us will be sort of a ballad, then step up and end with a heartfelt note of father/daughter love. Days in the Sun seems like the objects will be complaining about being an object, instead of working to be humans again. Audra is love, Audra is life, BUT THE WARDROBE singing a reprise? What happened to the old cliche choir?
Forever More and Our Song Lives On seems interesting. But I kinda hope the end credits to be sung by Belle and the Beast, not by some pop singer.
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rodrigo_ca wrote:Almost all of these songs seems pretty bland for me. I can almost hear how People Remember Us will be sort of a ballad, then step up and end with a heartfelt note of father/daughter love. Days in the Sun seems like the objects will be complaining about being an object, instead of working to be humans again. Audra is love, Audra is life, BUT THE WARDROBE singing a reprise? What happened to the old cliche choir?
Forever More and Our Song Lives On seems interesting. But I kinda hope the end credits to be sung by Belle and the Beast, not by some pop singer.
People Remember Us sounds either like it will be a song reminiscing about their family life when Belle's mother was alive, and when they were still well off and before they had to move to their small, provincial town. Either that or maybe them singing about how others perceive them when Belle asks her father if he thinks she is weird.

Days in the Sun sounds more about the objects singing about the good old days, and possibly a return to those days. And even Human Again had a bit of complaining in it, but this song doesn't sound too much like that, as a much as a fond remembrance and possibly what they have to look forward to.

Our Song Lives On sort of reminds me of Between Two Worlds, the song Pocahontas and John Rolfe sing in the end credits of Pocahontas II. I actually really like that song but I wish it was Mel Gibson singing to represent John Smith instead.
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I don't like either of those pictures either. The first one looks better in other shots...it looks more like a birthday cake in the picture posted. And I agree that the second dress is fine for the Disney Parks but it won't work on the big screen. I think this is one of the more difficult dresses to translate well, but I don't think it is impossible and the final product we are getting is just despicable. I'd gladly take either of the two dresses above or what we're getting now (hairstyle too).
I would take an even more simplistic dress than we already have over that mess. Actually the bottom half of the dress does not look prom-like at all to me. Prom dresses usually aren't that wide or have so many layers or have things hanging down the back. At least not at my prom. *shrug*
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I think Belle needs a solo, or another duet between her and the Beast, rather than asong between her and her father or the enchanted objects.
Disney's Divinity wrote:The first picture wouldn't work for me, but looking at the second... Eh. It looks good for a park costume, but I'm not sure it would look great in-film, personally.
Oh. Ok. Googling beauty beast musical might give you the OBC dress and the new one. Actually, Googling beauty beast muscial dress seems to give a lot of good images. As for the Disney Park costume, that you and JeanGreyForever agree on, I suppose it might not be good for a film.
JeanGreyForever wrote:I don't like either of those pictures either. The first one looks better in other shots...it looks more like a birthday cake in the picture posted. And I agree that the second dress is fine for the Disney Parks but it won't work on the big screen. I think this is one of the more difficult dresses to translate well, but I don't think it is impossible and the final product we are getting is just despicable. I'd gladly take either of the two dresses above or what we're getting now (hairstyle too).

BTW Disney Duster, I love your new Belle design too. I love the 1700s style of sleeves and I wish that was being kept for Belle rather than the bare arms which feel too modern and prom-dressy. It worked fine on Cinderella, but it doesn't translate well here at all.
Thank you! I prefer the new design I made. I tried to make it reminisce the animated one while giving it more historical accuracy. I must admit, I don't mind the sleeves we got because they are beautiful (and actually remind me of the animated Disney Cinderella), but, yes, I'd rather her sleeves were like my picture. Both Disney Cinderella's time periods of course did not have long sleeves for evening or ball gowns. And haha about the birthday cake comment. They didn't do a very good yellow dress for any official Disney stage productions of Beauty and the Beast in my opinion. I would actually however take the dress we got over the other two because at least it's trying to be different, and it's not horrible to me, though it may be to you lol.
Disney's Divinity wrote:I would take an even more simplistic dress than we already have over that mess. Actually the bottom half of the dress does not look prom-like at all to me. Prom dresses usually aren't that wide or have so many layers or have things hanging down the back. At least not at my prom. *shrug*
I think the layers below and the...bow, folds (?), down the back of the skirt would be in a prom dress. If not, I must say I find what is in the back of the dress to actually look like something from some really humble party dress, not a ball gown or a prom dress. Except maybe a prom dress in like the 80's or below all the way to the 30's? But I agree on taking the "more simplistic dress" actually.
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I just can't get over how bad this dress is. Ugh. :huh:
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The theme park dress looks better to be quite honest. http://www.thisgirltravels.com/wp-conte ... d-Park.jpg

I was expecting this huge over the top dress inspired by the era the story is set in. Especially with the production design looking as amazing as it does, this is a huge disappointment.
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Egads. I appreciate the subtle details in the dress, but the actual design those details are part of...oiy. Disney, you really kinda f-ed up here.
Disney's Divinity wrote:While I would say this dress is not as great as the one in the film, I wouldn't say it looks nothing like the dress in the animated film, unlike that rag in Cinderella (2015) which straight up looks like a prom dress with tacky butterfly clippings. Besides, we aren't even sure if this is the finished product...! rotfl
Well, we now see the case that Belle's dress doesn't look very much like the one in the film at all. I would say Cinderella's looked ever so slightly more like it's original than Belle's does. I am glad they look different, as I think the designs for a new take on a film should be new, but the designs we got for Beauty and the Beast, well, at least for Belle's yellow dress, I am not ok with, unlike Cinderella where I was ok with every costume. And I'm sure you didn't really mean the blue dress was "a rag" lol.
Disney's Divinity wrote:Not even Blanchett was a highlight there, but I don't really blame her; I think she gave the best performance possible considering how confused the character was.
I should have asked earlier, but how did you think the stepmother character was confused?
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Disney Duster wrote: Well, we now see the case that Belle's dress doesn't look very much like the one in the film at all. I would say Cinderella's looked ever so slightly more like it's original than Belle's does. I am glad they look different, as I think the designs for a new take on a film should be new, but the designs we got for Beauty and the Beast, well, at least for Belle's yellow dress, I am not ok with, unlike Cinderella where I was ok with every costume. And I'm sure you didn't really mean the blue dress was "a rag" lol.
Well, again, as I said to you before (and have said on this forum repeatedly for years on any given topic), that is your opinion and not mine, speak for yourself only, your opinion is not fact, etc. And I’ll throw in: F*** Cinderella. I really do not give two shits about it, I won't be thinking about that trash when I watch this, and any amount of ways you find to nitpick this film for eternity won't stop it from being more successful than Cinderella. :)
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The dress looks fine. I'm more concerned with why Emma looks almost ill in that picture. Not saying she needs to be drenched in makeup, but she's naturally gorgeous, why this horrible lighting? The picture seems very off.

There better not be an issue with the production values or something.
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I forgot to say, wheareas before I said I liked this Belle's yellow dress's sleeves becauese they looked like the original Disney animated Cinderella's, I don't think that now. Yes, they are cap sleeves, but hardly anything like the 1950 Cinderella's.
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Disney Duster wrote:Well, we now see the case that Belle's dress doesn't look very much like the one in the film at all. I would say Cinderella's looked ever so slightly more like it's original than Belle's does. I am glad they look different, as I think the designs for a new take on a film should be new, but the designs we got for Beauty and the Beast, well, at least for Belle's yellow dress, I am not ok with, unlike Cinderella where I was ok with every costume. And I'm sure you didn't really mean the blue dress was "a rag" lol.
Well, again, as I said to you before (and have said on this forum repeatedly for years on any given topic), that is your opinion and not mine, speak for yourself only, your opinion is not fact, etc. And I’ll throw in: F*** Cinderella. I really do not give two shits about it, I won't be thinking about that trash when I watch this, and any amount of ways you find to nitpick this film for eternity won't stop it from being more successful than Cinderella. :)
What on earth is this reaction for? You're really mean here and it is uncalled for. Firstly, of course I am speaking for myself and not you. I mean, I think that neither dress looking very much like their original counterparts is pretty much fact, but I still said it as my own opinion as I used the words "I would say" in the first place. You are really mean to me and to one my favorite movies just because...I dunno, is it because I quoted something you said in the past so you think what I said about not meaning you any illwill isn't true anymore? Because it is still true. Even after this I mean you no illwill or harm. Or is it because I said "surely you didn't mean to call it a 'rag'"? That is just my guessing that you only said that to be mean and am asking if you meant it. And you didn't answer my question about the stepmother's character, either. I'm only discussing this film and that includes things I'm unhappy with, not nitpick it because I don't want it to succeed. I wanted this to succeed, and that's why I'm dissapointed by some of what we've seen and heard from it. And Cinderella was definitely not trash. You're being very mean for no reason.

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Where is that new Emma-Watson-as-Belle picture from, anyway? Is it official?
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