Guys, I hate to be bearer of bad news, but I wouldn't blame the author Terry Pratchett for somebody else making the film. He was alive when the rights issue flared up with Disney, but he passed away early last year. I assume that the rights were won again by another studio in between the author's passing, which is why they might not have had to pander to his requests.
I had thought he might have passed a while back because I remember something about a ghostwriter or whatever doing a few Discworld novels after he died, but I was too lazy to Google.
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Honestly, I don't blame Terry for turning Disney down for the rights. Based on the concept arts, this looked like a typical Disney love story when really it isn't. It's disappointing this was never made, but if Terry thought Disney would soil it, so be it
...Pratchett and Smythe finally found a cinematic home for Mort in 1996 when a deal was announced with New Line Cinema...in partnership with a British company, Scala Productions, and British writer/director Paul Bamborugh...Directors and writers came and went, New Line appeared to drop out of the picture altogether....
Pratchett had been approached by Walt Disney Animation Studios about adapting Mort into a full blown, all singing, all dancing animated musical feature....an art department was set up, which even distributed a Christmas card featuring Death dressed as Father Christmas...
...There were two snags. The first was that the rights to Mort, acquired back in 1996, still resided with Paul Bamborough and his new company, Camel Productions, though Disney probably had enough money to sort that out. More worrying for Pratchett was a revelation during a meeting in New York that, should he give Mort to the House of Mouse, they would have automatic rights to make further films using all of the characters and locations within it, including adapting all of the books that they appeared in.
Since the main character of Mort is Death himself, who cameos or stars in almost every Discworld novel, numbering some 39 books by that point, plus short stories and spinoffs, this was something of a problem. It is, apparently, the only time one particular Disney lawyer ever found himself being literally screamed at by a prospective collaborator. The deal fell apart, right there in the meeting.
Ah, interesting. I assumed Mort fell through because it always felt inevitable that it wouldn't work out because of the book itself (and because M&C wanted it to be hand-drawn...). Makes you wonder if it might've actually survived--perhaps as a 3D film--if he hadn't pulled out?? It would've been the last WDAS film based off a book if it had, right?
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Haha, a Disney lawyer got screamed at! Interesting info, blackcauldron85. Couldn't Disney just not have been wankers once and let the deal happen by not trying to force them to let them use the characters and locations in whatever else they wanted?
This is probably one of the reasons Disney stopped adapting stories and started doing only original films. The other reasons might be not having complete control over the characters and being unable to adapt fairy tales for "modern audience".
While I think Musker and Clements would have made a great film out of this story, I don't think they would have been very faithful to it, since I've read it is pretty dark for a Disney film, especially nowadays.
I think it's a shame that Disney didn't take the opportunity to make this happen, as it would really be something fresh and out of the ordinary, but oh well (i really do like the elephant emoji)
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2.House Tour (๐ฒ๐บ๐ป๐๐๐๐บ ๐ข๐บ๐๐๐พ๐๐๐พ๐)*new
3. Tears (Sabri- Carpen-)*new
4. Sugar talking(...๐ฒ๐บ๐ป๐๐๐๐บ ๐ข๐บ๐๐๐พ๐๐๐พ๐!) *new
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8. ๐ข๐บ๐๐๐ป๐ป๐พ๐บ๐ ๐ฐ๐๐พ๐พ๐! ( ๐ก๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ผ๐พ๐บ๐)
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10. Upside down (Diana Ross)
The Disneynerd wrote: โFri May 26, 2023 9:17 am
I think it's a shame that Disney didn't take the opportunity to make this happen, as it would really be something fresh and out of the ordinary, but oh well
I agree with this. Everything I've seen from this film looks interesting to me, such a missed opportunity.
Farerb wrote: โFri May 26, 2023 9:42 am
Thank you for sharing
you're very welcome!
Farerb wrote: โTue Feb 21, 2023 10:57 pm
This is probably one of the reasons Disney stopped adapting stories and started doing only original films. The other reasons might be not having complete control over the characters and being unable to adapt fairy tales for "modern audience".
This got me thinking. It makes sense for Disney to deviate from novel adaptations where you have to risk a lot for ownership rights, but then Disney could theoretically still publish this rough story without Terry Pratchett's credit, since fairy tales are in the public domain, right? Because the Brothers Grimm published a very very similar fairy tale, titled "Godfather Death", it seems different enough, you can read it here:https://fairytalez.com/godfather-death/ (also, this website, which I discovered a month ago is a MUST for fairytale nerds, it has EVERY Fairytale in existense!!!!) I think
Does anyone know if it would be theoretically legal for Disney to do that, its not as if Terry Pratchett owns the death character, right??!?
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1. When did you get hot? (Sabrina Carpenter)*new
2.House Tour (๐ฒ๐บ๐ป๐๐๐๐บ ๐ข๐บ๐๐๐พ๐๐๐พ๐)*new
3. Tears (Sabri- Carpen-)*new
4. Sugar talking(...๐ฒ๐บ๐ป๐๐๐๐บ ๐ข๐บ๐๐๐พ๐๐๐พ๐!) *new
5. 9 to 5 (Dolly Parton)
6. ๐ฉ๐๐๐ (๐ฒ๐บ๐ป๐๐๐๐บ๐บ๐บ๐บ) 7. ๐ง๐บ๐๐ฝ ๐๐ ๐๐บ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐๐ (๐ข๐๐๐ผ๐บ๐๐)
8. ๐ข๐บ๐๐๐ป๐ป๐พ๐บ๐ ๐ฐ๐๐พ๐พ๐! ( ๐ก๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ผ๐พ๐บ๐)
9.๐ณ๐๐พ ๐ถ๐๐๐๐พ๐ ๐๐บ๐๐พ๐ ๐๐ ๐บ๐ ๐ (๐ก๐ ๐ก๐ก๐ )
10. Upside down (Diana Ross)
It seems Musker has been trying to shop Mort at other studios.
[John Musker]โs still hopeful about adapting Mort, from Terry Pratchettโs Discworld series, the book that heโs kept close throughout his entire career. No one wants to buy the story because they think itโs โtoo darkโ: โItโs even hard for Henry Selick to sell projects. Theyโre just risk-averse. Itโs like, weโre going to spend a lot of money and we want to make a lot of money.โ Not even Steven Spielberg can get his every project greenlit. Musker warns: โJust like how in the seed of every failure is a success, in the seed of every success is failure. Too much control kills projects.โ