Inside Out

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:32 am

The animation itself was pushed in tangled, no doubt. But design wise, it too was pretty generic. And not just because of the blond white girl aspect. Dont get me wrong, it was appealing, but didnt stray much from most other CG characters to date.

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:21 am

Kyle wrote:The animation itself was pushed in tangled, no doubt. But design wise, it too was pretty generic. And not just because of the blond white girl aspect. Dont get me wrong, it was appealing, but didnt stray much from most other CG characters to date.

Okay. Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

Warm Regards · Post by **Warm Regards** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:47 am

Avaitor wrote:Real talk though, why is Disney always getting called out for its issues with diversity, while the HTTYD movies are just as white as Frozen, yet Dreamworks gets a free pass there?

I guess because Disney's been around longer, and therefore has more "shame" in constantly using white characters, or misrepresenting the cultures they do tackle.

Give Disney credit though, they have an Asian and African American in their next CG flick, the latter of which beats out DreamWorks Home by a few months.

unprincess · Post by **unprincess** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:59 am

I think its b/c people got really used to Disney having a string of minority characters in lead & supporting roles the 90s...Aladdin, Pocahontas, Hunchback, Hercules(muses), Mulan, TENG, Atlantis, Lilo & Stitch, PATF. I mean thats pretty impressive how diverse those films are, coming one or 2 years apart each.
but then after PITF bombed Disney has been playing it safer & focus mostly on white characers. And, correct me if Im wrong, but the majority of cgi films, Disney/Pixar or not, have seem to focus on white characters... the days of diversity back in the 90s are sadly gone b/c the competition has become more cuthroat & everyone wants to play it safe...

so yeah its really kind of unfair for Disney to get so much flack for this when they have had a better track of diversity than other studios...At the same time, its disappointing that theyve had to stoop to every other studios "keep it safe" level.

jazzflower92 · Post by **jazzflower92** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:05 am

In my opinion I think people are getting really overtly nit picky about this. I kind of really don't care if she is white. In fact people a while ago were complaining about how Pixar doesn't have many female protagonists but now that we have another people complain about her race.

DisneyEra · Post by **DisneyEra** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:51 pm

Warm Regards wrote:
Avaitor wrote:Real talk though, why is Disney always getting called out for its issues with diversity, while the HTTYD movies are just as white as Frozen, yet Dreamworks gets a free pass there?
I guess because Disney's been around longer, and therefore has more "shame" in constantly using white characters, or misrepresenting the cultures they do tackle.

Give Disney credit though, they have an Asian and African American in their next CG flick, the latter of which beats out DreamWorks Home by a few months.

Here's an image of the lead character for DreamWorks 'B.O.O. Bureau Of Otherworldly Operations'.

And here is Riley from Pixar's Inside Out

Why is the white Pixar character deemed racist but the white DreamWorks character is not

This is what we call a double standard

Avaitor · Post by **Avaitor** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:12 pm

It seems to me that certain people in the animation community are tired of Disney, Pixar included, being THE face of animation, and are quick to call them out in any way. Meanwhile, "poor Dreamworks" generally receives a pass, even when some of their duds like Bee Movie and Shark Tale become memes to call out how ridiculous they are.

I've never been a Dreamworks hater, and I do genuinely adore the HTTYD's, KFP's, and Prince of Egypt, but this really gets to me.

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:46 pm

DisneyEra wrote:Why is the white Pixar character deemed racist but the white DreamWorks character is not This is what we call a double standard

THANK YOU.

Ok, story time:

Around the time people were whining about white people in Frozen, I noticed that one of icons of the whiners was a dragon from HTTYD. So, I told her "If Frozen is racist, so is HTTYD." And her response? "Oh, but HTTYD has a reason it has white people: It takes place in Scotland." And I responded: "But, Frozen's in 1800s Norway." Her response? "NO! THERE HAS TO BE WHITE PEOPLE! IF THERE'S TALKING SNOWMEN, THERE CAN BE ONE POC."

Dreamworks Fandom is honestly the worst animation fandom. Unlike the Disney fandom who knows Disney's mistakes and flaws, the DW fans think that DW is superior and perfect. Yesterday, someone compared the texture to IO and the texture to Dreamworks, calling the Pixar texture lazy and bland, but DW's is "so in-detail".

Disney's Divinity wrote:To be honest, I think that's exactly what they do. It reminds me of how John Lasseter basically x'ed out all individuality and style from American Dog and Rapunzel as soon as he came on board. But being bland obviously results in more mass appeal (or, in other words, more $$$).

That actually does makes sense. Once Lasseter leave, it's possible that appearances will be much more diverse

unprincess wrote:And, correct me if Im wrong, but the majority of cgi films, Disney/Pixar or not, have seem to focus on white characters... the days of diversity back in the 90s are sadly gone b/c the competition has become more cuthroat & everyone wants to play it safe...

100% WRONG! If this was the case, the secondary and background characters of WIR and the cast of BH6 would be 100% white

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:36 pm

disneyprincess11 wrote:100% WRONG! If this was the case, the secondary and background characters of WIR and the cast of BH6 would be 100% white

Focusing does not mean 100%. Having token black characters doesn't contradict unprincess' point.

DisneyEra · Post by **DisneyEra** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:34 am

Character designs for DreamWorks B.O.O. As you can see, ALL white characters. But it's not Disney/Pixar, so it's OK

unprincess · Post by **unprincess** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:52 am

Kyle wrote:
disneyprincess11 wrote:100% WRONG! If this was the case, the secondary and background characters of WIR and the cast of BH6 would be 100% white
Focusing does not mean 100%. Having token black characters doesn't contradict unprincess' point.

exactly...
I cant recall the ethnic characters in WIR...
and yes BH6 is diverse but why not have set it in Japan like the original comic book?

Im talking about CGI films with a minority as the main character/s. There is Home coming soon, and Moana, and Book of Life will focus on Hispanic culture so there are some things to look forward to.

Mickeyfan1990 · Post by **Mickeyfan1990** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:04 pm

DisneyEra wrote:Character designs for DreamWorks B.O.O. As you can see, ALL white characters. But it's not Disney/Pixar, so it's OK

Now why does that kid with the brown swirly hair look so familiar? Can you say "lawsuit"?

jazzflower92 · Post by **jazzflower92** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:09 pm

unprincess wrote:
Kyle wrote: Focusing does not mean 100%. Having token black characters doesn't contradict unprincess' point.
exactly...
I cant recall the ethnic characters in WIR...
and yes BH6 is diverse but why not have set it in Japan like the original comic book?

Im talking about CGI films with a minority as the main character/s. There is Home coming soon, and Moana, and Book of Life will focus on Hispanic culture so there are some things to look forward to.

Big Hero 6 has a biracial main character.

DisneyEra · Post by **DisneyEra** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:31 am

Joy is just to cute!

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:42 am

The characters look amazing! What makes this better is that the first trailer is coming tomorrow!

https://twitter.com/TheFilmStage/status ... 8853313536

disneyprincess11 · Post by **disneyprincess11** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:30 pm

First Teaser Poster:

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:01 am

disneyprincess11 wrote:First Teaser Poster:

I wasn't particularly impressed by that poster. It was too generic for my taste.

ajmrowland · Post by **ajmrowland** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 5:10 am

Nice use of colors, I guess?

Anyway, between this trailer and a big Square Enix presentation, this day is gonna be interesting for me.

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:13 am

The teaser is finally available

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t0A_tZGrYw.

Miss Manday · Post by **Miss Manday** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:14 am

The trailer has been released! Love the use of Disney/Pixar memories in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIGECPlJPqg

EDIT: Whoops, I was ninja'd.

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