Hand-Drawn Animation Dead at Disney

[unprincess]

I hate those stupid penguins. I cant stand characters like these and the minions...Its like they are making whole cgi movies based on that one hyperactive kid that sat at the back of the class and wouldnt stop acting up. Except instead of just one kid its a whole team of them.

[DisneyJedi]

What's this talk about penguins now?

[2Disney4Ever]

What's this talk about penguins now?

It's talk of a certain group of CG penguins from a certain DreamWorks movie.

[sunhuntin]

i quite like the minions, but cant stand the penguins. actually dislike that whole franchise. the first was good, well done. they should have left it there. the second one was rubbish and i fell asleep watching the third on a mega long flight [canada to new zealand, or vice versa. cant recall which] actually, gotta give kudos for the third on that count... couldnt get to sleep any other way! LOL

[ce1ticmoon]

I thought both Despicable Me films were fairly bland and boring, but decently entertaining for one or two viewings. However, I really enjoy the minions. I think they would be well suited for a series of short subjects.

As for the penguins, I'm not much of a fan either, but then again, I've only seen Madagascar 3, and they weren't in it much. I actually thought Madagascar 3 was a pretty decent film though. Admittedly, It's pretty weak in the story and characters department--the story feels somewhat schizophrenic...like it was made up as they went along. But the film was just plain fun and enjoyable. Everything was so ridiculously over-the-top, flashy, colorful, and energetic. I think it's really something in terms of visuals. All that, plus it just doesn't take itself seriously and doesn't even attempt to ground itself in reality. The complete and utter disregard for physics just feels really great. It definitely embraces the medium of animation, and while it isn't the strongest film, I think it's definitely worth watching. But I guess I'm just taking this way off topic...

[Warm Regards]

Make of this as you will:

Disney XD Orders Jon Heder Animated Series ‘Pickle & Peanut’

Disney XD has ordered “Pickle & Peanut,” an animated buddy comedy featuring Jon Heder and Johnny Pemberton.

Series hails from “Fish Hooks” creator Noah Z. Jones and developed by Joel Trussell. Show from Disney Television Animation will use a mix of 2-D animation and live-action clips to the ll the story of an emotional pickle, voiced by Heder, and a freewheeling peanut (Pemberton).

“We see very few pitches that are as funny and original as ‘Pickle & Peanut,’ ” said Eric Coleman, Disney Television Animation’s senior VP of original series. “We instantly fell in love with these characters, and Noah and Joel have built a world with a visual style and sensibility unlike anything on TV.”

“Pickle & Peanut” is slated for a fall 2015 premiere.

Disney Television Animation is also producing a third season of new “Mickey Mouse” cartoon shorts for Disney Channel and Disney XD. And Disney Channel has ordered a second season of Craig McCracken’s animated comedy “Wander Over Yonder,” featuring Jack McBrayer and April Winchell.

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/disney- ... 201243470/

(I am presuming 2D refers to flash?)

[disneyprincess11]

From Comic Con:

Ricky Brigante, Host @InsideTheMagic · 7h
Disney uses 2D hand drawn animation in the development of #BigHero6 and all films. Not dead, they say. #SDCC

Ricky Brigante, Host @InsideTheMagic · 7h
Don Hall says there is no mandate at the Disney Studio to do 3D or 2D animation. Depends on film, director. #BigHero6 #SDCC

Rrrrrrrriiigggggghhhhtttttt Musker and Clements are totally deciding 3D animation for Moana over 2D animation, which they have been doing throughout their whole career, and it wasn't PATF's fault that Frozen switched to CGI at the last second.

[Disney's Divinity]

Rrrrrrrriiigggggghhhhtttttt Musker and Clements are totally deciding 3D animation for Moana over 2D animation, which they have been doing throughout their whole career, and it wasn't PATF's fault that Frozen switched to CGI at the last second.

Tangled was also 2D to begin with. I believe only BH6 and WIR were intended to be 3D from the start. I honestly wish things had turned out that way; then I would actually believe it when they say they choose medium based on what suits the story.

About Musker & Clements, didn't they already say once that they wanted their next film to be 2D but it wasn't an option? (Maybe back when Mort was being talked about.)

[TsWade2]

From Comic Con:

Ricky Brigante, Host @InsideTheMagic · 7h
Disney uses 2D hand drawn animation in the development of #BigHero6 and all films. Not dead, they say. #SDCC

Ricky Brigante, Host @InsideTheMagic · 7h
Don Hall says there is no mandate at the Disney Studio to do 3D or 2D animation. Depends on film, director. #BigHero6 #SDCC

Rrrrrrrriiigggggghhhhtttttt Musker and Clements are totally deciding 3D animation for Moana over 2D animation, which they have been doing throughout their whole career, and it wasn't PATF's fault that Frozen switched to CGI at the last second.

I wish I never said this and hopefully I won't get carried away for this, but they're just a bunch of idiotic cowards. They're just running away from those questions about 2D, because Bob Iger hates 2d hand drawn animation. John Musker and Ron Clements betrayed 2D hand drawn animation. My God, I can't believe I'm going through this again! Why can't Disney just stick to their own routine? No offense, CGI.

[disneyphilip]

I wish I never said this and hopefully I won't get carried away for this, but they're just a bunch of idiotic cowards. They're just running away from those questions about 2D, because Bob Iger hates 2d hand drawn animation. John Musker and Ron Clements betrayed 2D hand drawn animation. My God, I can't I'm going through this again. Why can't Disney just stick to their own routine? No offense, CGI.

There you go jumping to conclusions and going all 2Disney4Ever on us again.

They are NOT idiotic cowards in the slightest possible manner. And you must also take back your false accusations against Iger, Musker and Clements because you are so uninformed that it hurts...A LOT!

I thought you had promised changed your behavior and attitude problems. Guess I was wrong.

[disneyphilip]

From Comic Con:

Ricky Brigante, Host @InsideTheMagic · 7h
Disney uses 2D hand drawn animation in the development of #BigHero6 and all films. Not dead, they say. #SDCC

Ricky Brigante, Host @InsideTheMagic · 7h
Don Hall says there is no mandate at the Disney Studio to do 3D or 2D animation. Depends on film, director. #BigHero6 #SDCC

Rrrrrrrriiigggggghhhhtttttt Musker and Clements are totally deciding 3D animation for Moana over 2D animation, which they have been doing throughout their whole career, and it wasn't PATF's fault that Frozen switched to CGI at the last second.

If even people who work at the studio say that 2D isn't dead, then it's not dead! And I, for one, am more than happy to believe them and side with them, knowing that they ARE telling the truth.

[disneyprincess11]

No, no, no, Tswade is right! They are being cowards! They are saying "Oh no, 2D is not dead. 2D is being used....in development". And then, they're saying, "Oh yeah, the art form is up to the directors", yet there are multiple reports saying that Frozen was forced to be 3D and that 2D animation is not an option for making a movie. And of course, the name thing: "We personally chosen *THIS TITLE* because of *THIS REASON" when Lassener finally revealed the truth, earlier this year: "Marketing reasons"

If Disney is saying 2D animation is banned for now (Sorry, TsWade), they might as well say it, instead of giving people false hope.

BTW, Disney's Divinity: I believed Tangled being 3D was actually chosen by Glean Keane because they wanted to do cool things with Rapunzel's hair.

[2Disney4Ever]

No, no, no, Tswade is right! They are being cowards! They are saying "Oh no, 2D is not dead. 2D is being used....in development". And then, they're saying, "Oh yeah, the art form is up to the directors", yet there are multiple reports saying that Frozen was forced to be 3D and that 2D animation is not an option for making a movie. And of course, the name thing: "We personally chosen *THIS TITLE* because of *THIS REASON" when Lassener finally revealed the truth, earlier this year: "Marketing reasons"

If Disney is saying 2D animation is banned for now (Sorry, TsWade), they might as well say it, instead of giving people false hope.

And that's exactly why I ban CG movies from Disney and have nothing to do with seeing them, cause I need a way of telling them "No, I do not approve of the way you're treating 2D animation, and I will not support anything designed to replace it!". I will never support a Disney that wants to kill off 2D animation.

[disneyphilip]

No, no, no, Tswade is WRONG! They are NOT being cowards! They are saying "2D is not dead. 2D is being used. In development and otherwise". They're saying, "Oh yeah, the art form is up to the directors", yet there are multiple reports saying that Frozen was forced to be 3D and that 2D animation is not an option for making a movie, even though those multiple reports are big fat lies made up by a bunch of sourpusses who are over exaggerating things just to get attention and not getting it through their thick skulls that the reports of 2D animation being dead are completely wrong, misinformed and blown WAAAAAAAY out of proportion.

Disney has NOT banned 2D animation! End of story.

There! It was my pleasure to correct it for you.

[TsWade2]

I wish I never said this and hopefully I won't get carried away for this, but they're just a bunch of idiotic cowards. They're just running away from those questions about 2D, because Bob Iger hates 2d hand drawn animation. John Musker and Ron Clements betrayed 2D hand drawn animation. My God, I can't I'm going through this again. Why can't Disney just stick to their own routine? No offense, CGI.

There you go jumping to conclusions and going all 2Disney4Ever on us again.

They are NOT idiotic cowards in the slightest possible manner. And you must also take back your false accusations against Iger, Musker and Clements because you are so uninformed that it hurts...A LOT!

I thought you had promised changed your behavior and attitude problems. Guess I was wrong.

Sorry about it. But those people at Disney are not being honest to themselves about 2D animation and it really ticks me off. So sorry about that.

[rs_milo_whatever]

...2D is not "banned"! They're just not making any at the moment. And although I think "coward" is a strong word, I do think they're full of it. Disney wants money and 3D is what is popular right now. People with kids today grew up with 2D and most likely see it as a children's medium. When those obnoxious Shrek movies started coming out, they made it OK for general public with atrocious sense of humor to enjoy animation again, and now there is a bit of an idea that CGI is also adult friendly.

The circle will end though, when more 90's kids start having their own children, we tend to realize how much better Mulan is than Ice Age 12. But of course, if the movies are as well-written and original as Wreck-It-Ralph, modern nostalgia-heavy musicals like Frozen, and as exciting and funny as Big Hero 6 looks, we might not even demand it as much anymore.

Face it, the last Disney CGI attempts have been more than solid. Even Tangled has its charm (but it really was overrated).

[Walter]

Re: Penguins and Despicable Me

I did like the penguins in the Madagascar films, and thought they stole the show. But when trying to watch their show, it was basically "too much of a good thing". Plus I find King Julien very annoying in everything, and would still watch the TV series if not for him. Seeing the trailer for the Penguins movie, I think I will wait for it to come out on DVD. It looks like it will be at the level of the Planes movies.

With Despicable Me, I did like the first one, but thought the second one was a disappointment. The only good thing about the second one, are the purple minions. I can't get enough of "bah". I would have not been happy if DM2 had won "Best Animated Picture" instead of Frozen.

[rs_milo_whatever]

First look at CGI SpongeBob SquarePants characters in new movie:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movi ... 5_28441856

[disneyphilip]

There you go jumping to conclusions and going all 2Disney4Ever on us again.

They are NOT idiotic cowards in the slightest possible manner. And you must also take back your false accusations against Iger, Musker and Clements because you are so uninformed that it hurts...A LOT!

I thought you had promised changed your behavior and attitude problems. Guess I was wrong.

Sorry about it. But those people at Disney are not being honest to themselves about 2D animation and it really ticks me off. So sorry about that.

They ARE being honest with themselves, so drop it!

[disneyphilip]

...2D is not "banned"! They're just not making any at the moment. And although I think "coward" is a strong word, I do think they're full of it. Disney wants money and 3D is what is popular right now. People with kids today grew up with 2D and most likely see it as a children's medium. When those obnoxious Shrek movies started coming out, they made it OK for general public with atrocious sense of humor to enjoy animation again, and now there is a bit of an idea that CGI is also adult friendly.

The circle will end though, when more 90's kids start having their own children, we tend to realize how much better Mulan is than Ice Age 12. But of course, if the movies are as well-written and original as Wreck-It-Ralph, modern nostalgia-heavy musicals like Frozen, and as exciting and funny as Big Hero 6 looks, we might not even demand it as much anymore.

Face it, the last Disney CGI attempts have been more than solid. Even Tangled has its charm (but it really was overrated).

I agree, but they're still not cowards, despite what some of you want to think!