Frozen: Part V

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Well now that Frozen is going to be a Broadway musical, I wonder if Jennifer Lee might be the book writer of the musical, like they hire Linda Woolverton to write the book for Beauty & the Beast in Broadway.
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TsWade2 wrote:Well now that Frozen is going to be a Broadway musical, I wonder if Jennifer Lee might be the book writer of the musical, like they hire Linda Woolverton to write the book for Beauty & the Beast in Broadway.
That would be nice. :)
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TsWade2 wrote:Well now that Frozen is going to be a Broadway musical, I wonder if Jennifer Lee might be the book writer of the musical, like they hire Linda Woolverton to write the book for Beauty & the Beast in Broadway.
I think I read that she said herself that she's going to be involved in it! Or at least strongly considering it. :up:
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Warm Regards wrote: Of course, animation is more labor intensive than filming live actors, and thereby harder to fund. I imagine animated content would need to be made on the cheap. (Because realistically, a second job, kickstarter, and fellow artists can only chip so much for a feature.) And then there's the issue of profits; how would the costs be justified if not through ticket sales? However, I am sure one day in the near future, there will be a smart cookie who figures out these issues, and makes their vision come to life.

Studios might not care, but it doesn't mean there can't be an alternative.
Ralph Bakshi recently got a hand-drawn feature crowdfunded through Kickstarter, so it is possible.
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TsWade2 wrote:Well now that Frozen is going to be a Broadway musical, I wonder if Jennifer Lee might be the book writer of the musical, like they hire Linda Woolverton to write the book for Beauty & the Beast in Broadway.
Linda Woolverton should do the book for the musical. Then they could incorporate a big battle, make up some new and fancy names for half the characters, and put in some dragons as well; )
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Prince Edward wrote:
TsWade2 wrote:Well now that Frozen is going to be a Broadway musical, I wonder if Jennifer Lee might be the book writer of the musical, like they hire Linda Woolverton to write the book for Beauty & the Beast in Broadway.
Linda Woolverton should do the book for the musical. Then they could incorporate a big battle, make up some new and fancy names for half the characters, and put in some dragons as well; )
Good grief Edward you won't get over your Linda hate will you? Figures. :roll:
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Musical Master wrote:
Prince Edward wrote: Linda Woolverton should do the book for the musical. Then they could incorporate a big battle, make up some new and fancy names for half the characters, and put in some dragons as well; )
Good grief Edward you won't get over your Linda hate will you? Figures. :roll:
It was intended as an lighthearthed attempt at humour; ) But yeah, I don't believe it to be impossible that Disney would actually ask Woolverton to write the book for this musical, and let's face it: She sucks at writing. But as long as the movies she is associated with makes a lot of cash (no thanks to Woolverton's writing), Disney seems to believe that she has talent and turns everything she touches into gold.
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Prince Edward wrote:It was intended as an lighthearthed attempt at humour; ) But yeah, I don't believe it to be impossible that Disney would actually ask Woolverton to write the book for this musical, and let's face it: She sucks at writing. But as long as the movies she is associated with makes a lot of cash (no thanks to Woolverton's writing), Disney seems to believe that she has talent and turns everything she touches into gold.
To you, she sucks. But to me I think her writing has improved in Maleficent, sure the entire movie will NEVER be everyone's cup of tea but at least in that one, Linda Woolverton actually TRIED to write for a movie that's worthy of discussion unlike Alice in Wonderland, which I will agree with you on, was a cliched disaster with no thanks from Tim Burton.
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Musical Master wrote:But to me I think her writing has improved in Maleficent.
By giving no one nothing to say or do. For the majority of the film, Maleficent stared, Aurora smiled and petted magical creatures, Stefan went bananas and the fairies were careless. Over and over again. Plus, there was a legend/prophecy, a battle and a dragon, which are the clichés you keep pointing out in 'Alice in Wonderful'.
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Old Fish Tale wrote:
Musical Master wrote:But to me I think her writing has improved in Maleficent.
By giving no one nothing to say or do. For the majority of the film, Maleficent stared, Aurora smiled and petted magical creatures, Stefan went bananas and the fairies were careless. Over and over again. Plus, there was a legend/prophecy, a battle and a dragon, which are the clichés you keep pointing out in 'Alice in Wonderful'.
Good God we've been over this, the "prophecy" was not, at ANY TIME, the driving force of the film. In Alice in Wonderland, Alice is destined to slay the Jabberwocky and that is what drives the actions, characters, and story of that movie. Maleficent does not do that. Sure it was mentioned in the narration but yet, NONE of the characters on screen ever mention a prophecy do they now? Which in Alice it was stated over and over and over and over and over again....ARRGGHH!!! :angry:

That's why I think Linda Woolverton dodged the bullet this time, plus unlike Alice, the latter two cliches actually fit the world that Maleficent lives in and it feels forced in Wonderland, a world which didn't need that sort of thing.

We can talk about more of this on the Maleficent thread.
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Well, Cinema Sins did their video on Frozen:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwMtWkfkJ8[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvwMtWkfkJ8
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Thanks for posting that! I agree with everything, except when he said Anna shouldn't have remembered Olaf. When the memories were changed, the troll made Anna believe Olaf was built outdoors by her and Elsa. So, yes, nothing wrong there.
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Old Fish Tale wrote:Thanks for posting that! I agree with everything, except when he said Anna shouldn't have remembered Olaf. When the memories were changed, the troll made Anna believe Olaf was built outdoors by her and Elsa. So, yes, nothing wrong there.

True.

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The one thing I still think was ultimately wrong with Frozen in the end is that it wasn't hand-drawn. And that's saying nothing on anything else that video might say about the film.
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You think that's its biggest problem? In terms of writing, the film is so half baked.
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I don't think the film's writing is half-baked. Nearly all Disney films have their share of plotholes. To me, this is just people trying to find more excuses to hate the film, which thankfully isn't going to slow the franchise down at all.
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Of course it won't! It won two Oscars and made millions!
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Nearly all Disney films have their share of plotholes.
This, and the ones in Frozen are hardly even noticeable. I really did not see any problem with making Hans the villain. Too much foreshadowing would've spoiled the surprise.

Admittedly though, Sin #79 IS a Saturday-morning groaner.
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Cinema Sins's isn't meant to be taken seriously. I believe the makers of it have admitted as such. If it were to be taken seriously, it would reflect the very worst sort of criticism, based on petty nitpicking.
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Saw HTTYD2, yeah, Disney should really pick up their game and try something not so Disney. Don't say Big Hero 6 won't be Disney-ish because they bubblewrap their films and never really try antyhing new, such as cinematography, challenging stories, or different character designs for their movies.
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