MMBoy's Unrated ShowGirls V.I.P Edition Review!

[PrinceAli]

If that was so then Disney wouldn't a problem in distributing the film but you know why they didn't

I have to agree with Aaron. Disney didn't distribute the film because they were afraid the company would become partisan. It was a good decision too. Too bad they still couldn't reap the reward of the movie, lol.


But I'd also like to add- If I had children, I would quickly cease them and bring them to a corner where they couldn't see JJ's nipple, if you could call it that. I would say, "I am very sorry you had to see that", mommy can show you what they really look like if you want. If I'm going to have my kids see a boob for the heck of it, I want it real at least. Nothing would scar you for life more than having the first boob you see as a fake one. And this is not to say anything in the least that I am against women getting boob jobs. No, I definately did not mean it the other way.

[2099net]

Well according to one report, F/911 will be distributed by Buena Vista Home Entertainment in the UK (it's already up for pre-order on some sites over here). Personally I doubt it will (they didn't distribute the film), but so far the only report we have it is will. But that's a whole other thread.

Let me tell you a story about something that happened a few months ago to us. We found out we had a mouse in the house - two of us saw it, and it was a foul little beast. We saw where it went and we managed to trap it by covering up the hole. The problem was, there was nothing we could do with it once it was trapped. In the meantime it's scratching away at the blockage making horrible squeaking noises too.

Eventually we had to let it out, but tried to capture it at the time, but of course couldn't. So then we went around the room systamatically pulling the furniture away from the wall, all to no avail, the mouse had disappeared (and the room was a mess, and thanks to us, there was many more places for the mouse to actually hide).

We went to bed, and my daughter had nightmares all night about the mouse crawling over her in bed.

The next day I went out and bought three mouse traps and 18 hours later, with no fuss, the mouse was trapped and disposed.

So what's my point? The point is, this being the first mouse in the house (well, the first we knew about! I suppose there could have been others) we all vastly over reacted. And out over reactions created more fear and trauma in our daughter. She only had nightmares because she saw her parents running around like headless chickens screaming at shadows. Had we just shrugged it off, and laid the trap the next day the whole affair would have been a non-event.

And that's the impression I get from the Janet Jackson/Superbowl event. I think it's become much bigger than it was because of all the attention it got. Living in the UK I didn't follow the whole affair, of course, but I remember stories about other live shows being on a delay and E.R. having to edit out breasts sounding totally over the top. After all, what time is E.R. shown there? It's certainly not a programme for young children, again with much more traumatic content then flashes of breasts.

Headless chickens.

As for American Culture, I can understand the family nature of the Superbowl, of course I can, and I can respect that. After all, we have Rugby which is like American Football but more violent. And over half the population watch the Rugby World Cup this past year, even though hardly anybody bothered with Rugby before it looked like we could win, so the Superbowl must be massive! I'm not being dismissive, but the potential for something terrible being screened live is there. I don't know much about American Football, but a quick google search revealed lots of serious injuries from playing the game, including broken necks (although admittedly most were from College Football, I only found 1 from the professional league).

America is so big and so diverse, people have trouble defining the culture of America. That's not a critisism, the same is happening over here (ironically in our case due to American influences). But on the whole its a good thing. But what are the limits of American culture? LA Beaches are full of skimy beachwear, BayWatch was seen by millions on prime-time TV. Teenage singers push more and more against the acceptable boundries in clothing and lyrics. Cosmetic surgery - including breast enhancement seems to be more and more acceptable. In fact, there was a story in our paper a week or two ago about breast enhancement being the most wanted present cited by young girls for their Birthday. Obviously a brief flash of a breast wouldn't bother these people or children.

I don't doubt many people found the affair distasteful and inappropriatre, and I'm not mocking them. They had a right to complain. But I have to question if it had the desired effect in the long-run. By either over reacting in their own homes, or making the media itself over react, they not only gave the whole affair more importance than it deserved, but they probably upset children who would otherwise have not even cared.

Now, I find it odd that, from what I understand (and I'm not referring to people on this forum, but reports I have read, both UK and US originated) that a lot of the people who complained about Janet Jackson were of the Christian faith and would be happy for the same children to see the film The Passion of the Christ. Not only does this film include lots of exposed flesh, including male nipples, but it is also full of violence and suffering. While I personally have no interest in seeing the film, I can see it is a film that is worthwhile and should be seen by those who are interested in seeing it. But I do not think it is a film for young children. A child doesn't have to see such things acted out, and in my opinion shouldn't.

[AwallaceUNC]

Netty, I entirely agree with you on the subject of The Passion. Small children simply should not be exposed to imagery like that, regardless of the message behind that. When I was in theaters, I didn't see any kids, thankfully, and I hope that held true for most of the country. While some parents probably legitimately wanted their kids to see it, I think the case with most who would bring their kids in to see it (or any R movie, for that matter) is simply that they couldn't find a babysitter- or didn't want to pay for one- which is sad.

I also pretty much agree with what you said about the JJ thing, as well. The reaction was definitely strong. I was watching it with a group of about 6 teenagers in the dorm room, and the shock was indescribable. My mouth doesn't literally drop open for many things, but it did there, as did everyone else's, and the room when silent for a bit. I can't recall right now a time when I've been as shocked, and I guess that's due to the Superbowl being as big a part of American culture as it is (and I'm not even a football fan), with that family-friendly status. Now, did the reaction work? Overall, I think so. I think most people's outrage (though not all) expressed concern over the when and where, not so much the what, and most kids probably picked up on that. And come this winter, I dare say the Superbowl half-time show will be considerably cleaner (in fact, one of several shows currently being considered is Girls With Guitars: Amy Grant and Sheryl Crow ).

I have to agree with Aaron. Disney didn't distribute the film because they were afraid the company would become partisan. It was a good decision too. Too bad they still couldn't reap the reward of the movie, lol.

PrinceAli agrees with me?? I don't believe my eyes!

-Aaron

[PrinceAli]

PrinceAli agrees with me?? I don't believe my eyes!

Hey, the world isn't black and white after all. Just don't get too used to it. LOL j/k

[AwallaceUNC]

-Aaron

[MickeyMouseboy]

ok we are off topic here. How about JLo taking her shirt of in one of her videos?

[Rebel]

The Super Bowl halftime show was inappropriate. It is not just because of the alleged "wardrobe malfunction" either.

Justin and Janet's song and dance would never have been approved for Sunday afternoon network television if the censors had seen it ahead of time.

Here are some of the lyrics that accompanied the heavily sexual dancing and dry humping :

Just wanna rock you girl
I'll have whatever you have
Come on, just give it up girl
See I've been watching you
I like the way you move
So go ahead, girl, just do
That ass shaking thing you do

I don't mean no harm
Just wanna rock you girl
Make a move, but be calm
Let's go, let's give it up girl
See it appears to me
You like the way I move
I'll tell you what I'm gonna do
Pull you close and share my groove

So you grab your girls
And you grab a couple more
And you all come meet me
In the middle of the floor
Said the air is thick, it's smelling right
So you blast to the left and you sail to the right

Don't be so quick to walk away
Dance with me
I wanna rock your body
Please stay
Dance with me
You don't have to admit you wanna play
Dance with me
Just let me rock you
Till the break of day

So what did you come for
I came to dance with you
And you know that you don't want to hit the floor
I came to romance with you
You're searching for love forever more
It's time to take a chance
If love is here on the floor, girl

No disrespect, I don't mean no harm
But I can't wait to have you in my arms
Hurry up cause you're taking too long
Better have you naked by the end of this song

Don't be so quick to walk away
Are you feeling me?
Let's do something
Let's make a bet
Cause I gotta have you naked by the end of this song

As just Justin sang the last line above, he violently ripped off Janet's top. According to Justin and Janet, the top was supposed to come off and expose Janet in a bra.

If you had a Sunday night movie with a scene where a young man says "Don't be so quick to walk away. I came to romance with you. No disrespect, I don't mean no harm, but I can't wait to have you in my arms. Hurry up cause you're taking too long. I gotta have you naked." and immediately violently rips off the young woman's blouse, then that movie would be preceeded by the standardized warning to alert viewers of violent sexual content and that parental discretion was advised. Even HBO, Showtime, and other pay cable channels provide those kinds of warning messages. The MTV half time show violated FCC regulations during one of the most watched events of the year and they gave absolutely no warning. With or without the nipple, they were wrong and should receive the maximum penalty.

The argument that kids can see near naked men and women simulating sex in many music videos on MTV does nothing to justify the half time show. Parents have the choice to decide whether or not they allow their children to watch MTV. Parents who think it is ok can choose to let their children watch whatever they want, but parents who do not think it is ok should also have the choice to restrict viewing. The Super Bowl half time show took away that choice.

If MTV wants to show Janet's nipples all day everyday then that is fine with me as long as they let people know that that is what they are going to do, but they do not have any right to spring questionable content on unsuspecting viewers in the middle of family programming.

It is completely bogus to try to argue that the MTV half time show should not be criticized because the Super Bowl contains inappropriate violence. Personally I disagree with the extreme characterizations made here about the violence in NFL football, but regardless of how violent anyone thinks that it is, the issue is moot. Everyone knows what to expect from an NFL football game and parents who feel it is inappropriate are free to make the decision about whether or not to allow their children to view it.

The issue is choice. If you want to see sex, violence, and nudity then there are plenty of places on television where you can see it. Likewise, if you do not want to see sex, violence, and nudity then you should be able to watch television without having it thrown in your face.

[2099net]

Well MMB, you will be pleased to hear that my Showgirls VIP set arrived today, along with a few other discs (Aqua Teen Hunger Force Vol 2, Yay!).

Sadly there has been a disaster of epic proportions with the Showgirls set...

The Poster is missing!

[Starion]

Does the DVD include deleted scenes showing Elizabeth Berkley? Just wondering. Not that I would watch them. lol! Thanks for sharing MickeyMouseboy.

If you want to see sex, violence, and nudity then there are plenty of places on television where you can see it. Likewise, if you do not want to see sex, violence, and nudity then you should be able to watch television without having it thrown in your face.

I did not expect The Lion King or Simba's Pride to have steamy romantic scenes. o.O *covers his eyes* Just kidding!

[Loomis]

Does the DVD include deleted scenes showing Elizabeth Berkley? Just wondering. Not that I would watch them. lol! Thanks for sharing MickeyMouseboy.

No, the only extras are a commentary; a behind the scenes diary; a lapdance tutorial; a trivia track and the trailer. There are also some bonus trailers that try to make 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' and 'The Great Escape' look like they were directed by Quentin Tarantino.

I did not expect The Lion King or Simba's Pride to have steamy romantic scenes. o.O *covers his eyes* Just kidding!

At least not in the G-rated version. The deluxe box set is a different story. Lion King 2: Simba's Pride - remember: pride comes before a fall, and fall is just another way of saying "going down". [/quote]

[2099net]

Here's an article about Janet Jackson, Boobs, "Draconian Censorship" and Fines. From a UK newspaper

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/ame ... ory=552815

[deathie mouse]

I'm wondering how 2099net is dealing with his DISASTER emergency and if this happened cus he got a PAL edition of the v.i.p. or a regular NTSC one, cus it bogles the mind what would happen to MickeyMouseBoy if he watched anamorphically enhanced extra sharp PAL boobies..


probably something like this:



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deathie mouse. more than you wanna know

[Starion]

No, the only extras are a commentary; a behind the scenes diary; a lapdance tutorial; a trivia track and the trailer. There are also some bonus trailers that try to make 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' and 'The Great Escape' look like they were directed by Quentin Tarantino.

Aww, so the DVD doesn't have an outakes reel or deleted scenes?
A lapdance tutorial? I'm trying to keep my comments appropriate for everyone. I saw Jennifer Tilly perform a Lapdance with Jay Leno on the tonight show. Of course, both were wearing clothes though. lol!

Quentin Tarantino? I heard of him. Oh, we won an Oscar for Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen for Pulp Fiction.

For some reason I'm getting this film confused with Striptease. I don't know why.

I'm wondering how 2099net is dealing with his DISASTER emergency and if this happened cus he got a PAL edition of the v.i.p. or a regular NTSC one, cus it bogles the mind what would happen to MickeyMouseBoy if he watched anamorphically enhanced extra sharp PAL boobies..

sharp PAL? Folks in the USA don't use Phase Alternation by Line.
Some broadcast stations are is using HDTV though.

That is a funny screenshot deathie mouse. lol!

Also, Janet Jackson is one of my favourite singers! I didn't watch the Superbowl because I'm not interested in American football. I do watch the other football though. Go Washington Freedom!

I wonder if the moderators will lock the thread because we're talking about boobs and stuff. hehe

Later

[MickeyMouseboy]

I don't think it will be locked. I'm surprised lukey hasnt joined the thread!

I'm wondering how 2099net is dealing with his DISASTER emergency and if this happened cus he got a PAL edition of the v.i.p. or a regular NTSC one, cus it bogles the mind what would happen to MickeyMouseBoy if he watched anamorphically enhanced extra sharp PAL boobies..


probably something like this:



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deathie mouse. more than you wanna know

Hey better resolution = sharper boobs = better nipples =
PAL didnt get the V.I.P only NTSC did!

Does the DVD include deleted scenes showing Elizabeth Berkley? Just wondering. Not that I would watch them. lol! Thanks for sharing MickeyMouseboy.

No, the only extras are a commentary; a behind the scenes diary; a lapdance tutorial; a trivia track and the trailer. There are also some bonus trailers that try to make 'The Good the Bad and the Ugly' and 'The Great Escape' look like they were directed by Quentin Tarantino.

that was funny Loomis! I'm going to watch those trailers now!

Well MMB, you will be pleased to hear that my Showgirls VIP set arrived today, along with a few other discs (Aqua Teen Hunger Force Vol 2, Yay!).

Sadly there has been a disaster of epic proportions with the Showgirls set...

The Poster is missing!

oh no netty! what are you going to do? how will you use your pasties? ::thinks:: nevermind don't answer that!

[Loomis]

oh no netty! what are you going to do? how will you use your pasties? ::thinks:: nevermind don't answer that!

Unfortunately, they don't seem to want to stick to real breasts.

At least, not without some sort of commercial adhesive, and that would be bad for everyone involved.

[MickeyMouseboy]

oh no netty! what are you going to do? how will you use your pasties? ::thinks:: nevermind don't answer that!

Unfortunately, they don't seem to want to stick to real breasts.

At least, not without some sort of commercial adhesive, and that would be bad for everyone involved.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! omg Loomis you're some freakazoid mate! but you're hilarious. I'm sorry the pasties didnt fulfill your needs.

[Starion]

I'm going to keep my comments clean before Luke deletes my posts and bans me.

Didn't Janet Jackson wear pasties during the Super Bowl Half Time Show? Jay Leno said she wore a shield. I keep wanting to type panties instead of pasties. I saw more of Janet Jackson than I wanted to. Heh

I actually found some deleted scenes showing Elizabeth Berkley. The acting and dancing was really funny! lol The lapdance is hilarious. The poor guy looked confused; he was wondering why Nomi Malone was dancing with him. I can't describe it without being to graphic. If you have seen Showgirls, you know what I'm talking about.

I would rent Showgirls and Striptease, but I don't think my parents would let me. Hehe. I'm just curious to see what the films are about. I downloaded some grainy movies, but I didn't like them. I guess I'm not really into this kind of stuff. I found one movie of someone dancing. The dancing was interesting to say the least.

I'm glad that some folks enjoy these movies.

I can just watch the romantic scenes in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and The Lion King instead. lol

At least not in the G-rated version. The deluxe box set is a different story. Lion King 2: Simba's Pride - remember: pride comes before a fall, and fall is just another way of saying "going down".

Actually, Simba and Nala did fall down. DId anyone see that scene where Simba and Nala.. Err... yeah. I'm just making fun of my favourite movie.

I didn't know that fall was another way of saying "going down."

I feel dirty, dirrty as Christina Aguilera would say.

I gotta run. Later everyone.

[Loomis]

I didn't know that fall was another way of saying "going down."

Well, not really (not in the sense that I was thinking of, at least) - but I was really straining to find the sexual innuendo that was so lacking from LK2.

(After all, LK1 had the 'S-E-X' cloud).

[Starion]

I didn't know that fall was another way of saying "going down."

Well, not really (not in the sense that I was thinking of, at least) - but I was really straining to find the sexual innuendo that was so lacking from LK2.

(After all, LK1 had the 'S-E-X' cloud).

Ok, I'm confused about the fall stuff. Autumn? lol

Heh, the S-E-X or S-F-X cloud is funny. I'll need to watch that scene again.

The scen where Simba puts his arm around Nala is so sweet and cute. Or how about when Nala licks Simba?? Hehe. Ok, that's enough adult material in one post.

Edit: I must be really sleepy or something. I forgot some stuff.

Some other Disney films are romantic like The Little Mermaid and Aladdin. I'm turing this thread into a "Most romantic moment in Diseny movies" thread. Sorry MickyMouseBoy.


Later

[MickeyMouseboy]

bad starion! this is a sex thread stop changing it!