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Disney's Divinity wrote:*spoilers*
Good points about Hans--I had noticed that he had sibling issues just like Anna, but hadn't thought about it further yet. I guess the real difference between him and Anna/Elsa is that he discarded his family since they couldn't/wouldn't help him, whereas Elsa/Anna's actions are still mostly out of love. Even when Elsa says Anna can leave after the argument about marriage, it still reads like Elsa would be more glad if Anna did leave so she could never hurt her again.

@ProfessorRatigan: I honestly wasn't bothered by the lack of a direct explanation of Elsa's powers, although I wouldn't have minded one. I can't see them having the king and queen going to the trolls twice in the opening scenes though, because Anna's accident is probably the most critical development/motivation for Elsa throughout the movie. Perhaps they could have had the troll elder/shaman/whatever sideways given an explanation when he begins talking to Elsa in that scene. Sort of like--"Elsa, as one born with/of yadda yadda yadda, you must beware..." whatever he says in that scene.

And, I agree, that would have been the perfect moment for a reprise of "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" particularly since Olaf walks in right then. You know, going off those ideas PrincessElsa posted from elsewhere a few pages back, I think I would've liked to have seen Olaf interact more with Elsa. Perhaps instead of breaking in to save Anna, they could have had him break in to save Elsa? Of course, he and Kristoff don't know Elsa's there, so I guess that wouldn't work. But maybe they could have him sense his creator was in danger and come to help her? A reprise of that song to Elsa would help give even more power to the following scene where Anna dies and she realizes the feeling of love for other people is what allows her to control her powers.

@ChrisLyne: Would've loved a reprise of "Let It Go" there, especially since it would be more empowering since she's sure of herself in front of everyone ("the light of day"). Plus, it goes with the end of her fear over her powers--the line "You'll never (again) see me cry" would've been very appropriate at that point once she's truly conquered her insecurity.
That's definetly one of the reasons why Hans is my second favorite male Disney villian, right behind Frollo who is the quintessential and best male villain in all of Disneydom.

BTW Divinity, what did you think of all the songs when viewing the movie a second time? Just wondering. :)
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Patrick wrote: The Tumblr PC Police are batshit nuts. Everyone is always wrong, misrepresented, inconsiderate, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, racist, transphobic/cisist, body-hating pigs. So don't let it get to you.
^ This so much

You're always 100 per cent wrong, unless you have 20 + thousand followers or more, then you're always 100 per right. Though to be fair the Frozen Fandom is pushing that aside and are giving the movie a positive light and ignoring the PC Police.
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Grace reports the Box Office grosses of Thanksgiving weekend. Frozen starts at 1:30

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Alphapanchito wrote:Anna didn't have much time or energy to put into a possibly romantic relationship the way Rapunzel did with Flynn. The whole time she was worrying about her sister and tryning to make sense of the situation and possible solutions. I like that the relationship isn't developed, because, well, it isn't. I also think that kiss at the end is more open ended than most Disney Princess kisses, and it doesn't necessary mean that they will always be together. Kristoff helped Anna save her sister, and she is very thankful for that. She may start to like him now after the events of the movie, since she has time to spend with him without worrying about her sister. But hey, maybe they will grow apart and Kristoff will keep chillin' with sven. Its open ended.
I completely agree.
Disney's Divinity wrote: I believe the only thing I don't like about the animation is that some of the background characters are horrendous, especially in the ball scene just before Elsa reveals her powers to the crowd.
Thank you! I saw that in the theater and thought, I must discuss this on UD! I didn't like the design of Penny's mom in Bolt, but these were multiple off-looking people! When the main humans are so good-looking! I don't know exactly what was off about them, their body shape? The fact that they looked similar to each other? They just stood out like a sore thumb in an otherwise absolutely gorgeous film.
Mooky wrote:Marshmallow plot-point was stupid
Super Aurora wrote:He had a plot point? All I saw him as was a monster created to keep visitors out. Nothing more or less. I wasn't expecting him to become any sort of character per se.
Mooky wrote:Elsa could have just blizzarded them away.
I think that Marshmallow was kind of necessary...Anna (& Kristoff & Sven & Olaf) really had to be forced out, and Elsa wouldn't be strong enough to do it. (Reading Mooky's last quote) Yes, yes she could have.
Mooky wrote:how would/did Elsa survive/stay warm for so long
:lol: One of my first comments coming out of the theater was, "If I had an Elsa doll, I'd make Barbie share her sweater."
Disney's Divinity wrote:and the way they died at the beginning for some reason reminded me of Tarzan, randomly.
It totally reminded of that, too!
Disney's Divinity wrote:The scene that follows probably got the most tears from me in the film, when it flips from Anna's side of the door to Elsa's, and the room is so frozen that even the snow doesn't fall-
YES! That animation of Elsa was the most incredibly moving for me in all of the movie. I just FELT for her.
Disney's Divnity wrote:Well, as far as powerful (male) villains, he's probably better than Scar at actually doing everything for himself and more threatening, but I feel Scar just comes to life thanks to Jeremy Irons which is why I rank him higher.
Scar has such a fun personality, his dead-pan humor...definitely more fun than the villain in Frozen. I knew the story going into the theater, but I ended up really liking Hans. I could see why Anna fell for him (part of it for me was just how happy he made Anna. He made her so gosh-darned happy after a lonely life growing up. To finally have someone who wanted to be around her! And I thought that he was a lot more handsome on the big screen...of course I had seen pictures and the trailer, but on the big screen, he was just so handsome! His eyes! Swoon!
Musical Master wrote:Hans was offering cloaks to the freezing people of Arendelle and the fact that he was also offering people to stay in the castle for hot soup (much to the displeasure of the Duke of course)? I was thinking that in the moment he was actually doing really good deeds for these people that he doesn't know. But you could argue that he was doing that so that he could win the favor of the people if Elsa and Anna were gone forever.


I think that Hans legitimately cared about people. I think he maybe wasn't completely just power-hungry. I think a huge part of it was just the idea that he never would be a ruler in his own kingdom...

...Did Hans know Anna was Anna before meeting her? Or was it the instant that she mentioned that she was a Princess that he was like, hey now! It's been almost a week since I've seen the film, but I think there was a look on his face at that moment, where you can tell that seeds had been planted. It's interesting, though, because when all the Elsa stuff went down...ugh, so many thoughts in my head at the same time! Did Hans care for Anna, regardless of her being a Princess? It's kind of like the Gothel-Rapunzel relationship: Did Gothel care for Rapunzel despite having to use her for her hair? Did Hans really care for Anna despite knowing he was going to use her royalness to become a ruler? I think that yeah, Hans was a deep-down caring guy. I think maybe the Elsa stuff shifted his opinions...if he initially was interested in Anna despite knowing he was going to use her, when the Elsa stuff happened, he was like, well, that's way too much to take in, crazy family, but I still want to be ruler? Did Hans ever really care for Anna? Did he care about those that he ordered soup for? I like to think so! Who knew Hans was such a mind-f@%*, right? Not as bad of a villain as we thought!

And, of course I have to see the film more, I think it makes my favorite DAC list a Top 6 now. Absolutely loved it so much. Loved the Anna/Elsa relationship. Loved both of those characters. And Kristoff. And Hans. And Olaf. And Sven. Just loved these characters to pieces. And the film is so beautiful, I was wondering in the theater, could I love a CG film as much as I'm loving Frozen?!

I'm going to have to finish reading this thread after work, but this is 2-days of reading and writing for me...!!
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Regarding Elsa being cold... She's the SNOW QUEEN!! Why on earth would she get cold when she has the power to control snow and ice? She's at home in it. She very obviously doesn't get cold, which makes perfect sense.
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Disney's Divinity wrote: I believe the only thing I don't like about the animation is that some of the background characters are horrendous, especially in the ball scene just before Elsa reveals her powers to the crowd.
Thank you! I saw that in the theater and thought, I must discuss this on UD! I didn't like the design of Penny's mom in Bolt, but these were multiple off-looking people! When the main humans are so good-looking! I don't know exactly what was off about them, their body shape? The fact that they looked similar to each other? They just stood out like a sore thumb in an otherwise absolutely gorgeous film.
I feel like they mostly just looked similar - that was my take away. In The Art of Frozen they talk a bit about crowd control in terms of coloring, mentioning how they need to stand on their own, but also be able to blend in easily to the background. Obviously that's always true with crowds, but I feel as though the palettes they chose were very similar and kind of all meshed together to be gray... Very similar body shapes and faces overall.
I think that Marshmallow was kind of necessary...Anna (& Kristoff & Sven & Olaf) really had to be forced out, and Elsa wouldn't be strong enough to do it. (Reading Mooky's last quote) Yes, yes she could have.
Wouldn't it make sense to view it as Elsa closing herself off again? She obviously doesn't want to hurt her sister, doesn't trust her own hand (again) after finding out that the kingdom is encased in ice, and reacts instantaneously after JUST finding out she created Olaf. Marshmellow is Elsa's way of "safely" getting rid of her sister, without having to do it herself. Of course she knows she's strong enough.
Did Hans know Anna was Anna before meeting her? Or was it the instant that she mentioned that she was a Princess that he was like, hey now! It's been almost a week since I've seen the film, but I think there was a look on his face at that moment, where you can tell that seeds had been planted. It's interesting, though, because when all the Elsa stuff went down...ugh, so many thoughts in my head at the same time! Did Hans care for Anna, regardless of her being a Princess? It's kind of like the Gothel-Rapunzel relationship: Did Gothel care for Rapunzel despite having to use her for her hair? Did Hans really care for Anna despite knowing he was going to use her royalness to become a ruler? I think that yeah, Hans was a deep-down caring guy. I think maybe the Elsa stuff shifted his opinions...if he initially was interested in Anna despite knowing he was going to use her, when the Elsa stuff happened, he was like, well, that's way too much to take in, crazy family, but I still want to be ruler? Did Hans ever really care for Anna? Did he care about those that he ordered soup for? I like to think so! Who knew Hans was such a mind-f@%*, right? Not as bad of a villain as we thought!
I wondered a bit about this myself. Judging by the Duke's questions and synopsis about Arendelle before the gates were open, I would believe that very few, if any, people outside of the kingdom know anything about the sisters. When Hans is telling Anna about his plan he mentions that he originally came to whoo Elsa. Meeting Anna seemed pretty coincidental and he immediately bowed when he saw her - there was no look. Even after he fell in the water there was no ill intent in his gaze towards Anna who had already run off. Whether that implies a genuine emotion or is simply meant to trick the audience? No idea.

I think if Hans actually DID care for Anna he wouldn't have tried to kill her off. Being that he's so perceptive and quick thinking, he absolutely could have come up with an alternative plan to keep Anna alive (assuming his kiss would have done anything) and still get rid of Elsa. Anna, up until that point, was completely gullible to anything he said. While I do think some of that was wavering as she got to know Kristoff, Hans could have persuaded her that Elsa needed to die/be banished/be imprisoned/ect.

I feel like it's pretty easy to say that the intent of Hans is to demonstrate exactly what another member on this board had said so eloquently earlier; Hans and family serve as a parallel to Elsa and Anna. Without fandoms trying to over analyze, he's clearly entirely self-motivated, ruthless, manipulative, and determined. The kindness that he showed while handing out blankets to the villagers was the same concern he had when telling the Duke that Anna was dead. No, he's not "evil," but he's absolutely a villain. Reading more into Anna and Hans as a couple is purely self-servicing.
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Patrick wrote:Meeting Anna seemed pretty coincidental and he immediately bowed when he saw her - there was no look. Even after he fell in the water there was no ill intent in his gaze towards Anna who had already run off. Whether that implies a genuine emotion or is simply meant to trick the audience? No idea.
I don't think it is either for some reason. I think he sees Anna simply as a tool. Something that is going to bring him power and status, something that will prove himself to his brothers. No, they didn't show him grimacing because at this point he never planned for Anna to die. I think the moment he looks adoringly as anna runs away is him thinking about his future as the King of Arendelle. In LIAOD, when Hans sings "I've been searching my whole life to find my own place" he motions to the kingdom below them. I think this is a pretty big hint of his plan, as he literally means he found his own place because of Anna, who will help him get it.

I personally would consider Hans to be kinda evil. But maybe that's because I have a pretty big hatred for manipulative people. But I also do believe he has a lot of social issues and is probably a sociopath. That would explain his constant lying and manipulation and odd expressions. As I mentioned earlier, I do think he enjoys other's suffering. This can also explain why he didn't let Weaseltown's men kill Elsa right there. I say he is a sociopath, rather than a completely evil villain because he actually feels really realistic. Hans reminds me of Frollo in a lot of ways, because he can easily exist in real life.
But you can look at Hans from so many different angles, and different perspectives will show a different Hans.
SWillie! wrote:Regarding Elsa being cold... She's the SNOW QUEEN!! Why on earth would she get cold when she has the power to control snow and ice? She's at home in it. She very obviously doesn't get cold, which makes perfect sense.
I found it odd that people were concerned about that too. I mean, she even sang it herself: "The cold never bothered me anyway".

Although that line could also have a double meaning with cold meaning both physical cold and isolation/loneliness.
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Just to let it out, is it wrong of me to think that Frozen's soundtrack is better than Pocahontas's song and score? I still stand on that Hunchback is one of Disney's all time best soundtracks.
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Musical Master wrote:Just to let it out, is it wrong of me to think that Frozen's soundtrack is better than Pocahontas's song and score? I still stand on that Hunchback is one of Disney's all time best soundtracks.
It's not "wrong", it's just your opinion.
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Just saw Frozen. One of the greatest Disney films in a very long time. Better than Tangled imo.

- Music is astounding. Really enjoyed The First Time in Forever and Let it Go. The music is admittedly, not as good as some hits by Disney in the past, but that list is way too small to even be worried about, as Frozen's soundtrack is still an amazing modern feat in itself in a market where musicals that are successful are scarce.
- Characters are very natural, and Disney isn't afraid of making fun of the old cliches in this movie. This is also a pretty great theme for audiences, as it tells little girls who are used to the typical princess Disney fantasy, to be more careful with who they might fall in love.
- Olaf was surprisingly not annoying. The comedy in this movie was unintrusive and appropriate. Though not as funny as the comedy in Tangled or Wreck-it Ralph, it didn't need to be.
- The focus on the sister dynamic is pretty new and good on Disney. The whole movie centers around the fact that this isn't a princess movie, it's a movie about sisters reastablishing their relationship, and does it very well. The whole character arc between Anna and Elsa was a solid A+ in my book, and is an aspect of Disney that's never reached as high since The Hunchback of Notre Dame with Quasimodo and Frollo's character arc. Disney really outdid themselves, especially being able to balance the character development with all the other aspects of the movie, making it a movie that is also able to have mass appeal while also being very well written and executed.
- Hans was a good villain. I wouldn't call him my favorite, as I don't even really consider him much of a villain more like an antagonist. The dude just wants what's best for this peaceful town, and his idea is different from Anna's. That's actually pretty grey for a Disney movie and surprised they went with something like this. Hans isn't my favorite villain, but he is one of my favorite characters.
- Kristoff was pretty badass in my opinion. He's a dork (but then again, he was raised by trolls), but he's a working man and easy to relate to. Really enjoyed his dynamic with the rest of the cast. He isn't a thief like Flynn, or a shady mofo like Aladdin, he's just someone who collects ice for a living. He's a regular dude who is willing to help his friends, and he deserves Anna's pootang more than Hans for the hell Anna put Kristoff through.

As for the mistakes of the movie...most people would be like, "Oh, it isn't as good as The Lion King." or "Well it may be good, but it's no Beauty and the Beast." But I don't think it'll do me any good, stating what movies I liked better than Frozen or else I'd be here all night. You got to look at now and the future when it comes to Disney or else you'll be clinging too much to the past. With Frozen, Disney did a good job making a high quality film in an era where animated movies are a form is dying to the grasp of Hollywood producers who are interested in making a dollar more than making a film. Obviously Disney wants to make money, but instead they took the more risky route and made a good movie to go along with it being a marketing success, and I think everyone should commend them for that. They did it with Tangled, and they did it again with Frozen and upped it up to an even better level.

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I just saw it and liked it, but I still thought the last 15 minutes were quite messy. Everything else before that varied between good and excellent!
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Just saw Frozen. One of the greatest Disney films in a very long time. Better than Tangled imo.

- Music is astounding. Really enjoyed The First Time in Forever and Let it Go. The music is admittedly, not as good as some hits by Disney in the past, but that list is way too small to even be worried about, as Frozen's soundtrack is still an amazing modern feat in itself in a market where musicals that are successful are scarce.
- Characters are very natural, and Disney isn't afraid of making fun of the old cliches in this movie. This is also a pretty great theme for audiences, as it tells little girls who are used to the typical princess Disney fantasy, to be more careful with who they might fall in love.
- Olaf was surprisingly not annoying. The comedy in this movie was unintrusive and appropriate. Though not as funny as the comedy in Tangled or Wreck-it Ralph, it didn't need to be.
- The focus on the sister dynamic is pretty new and good on Disney. The whole movie centers around the fact that this isn't a princess movie, it's a movie about sisters reastablishing their relationship, and does it very well. The whole character arc between Anna and Elsa was a solid A+ in my book, and is an aspect of Disney that's never reached as high since The Hunchback of Notre Dame with Quasimodo and Frollo's character arc. Disney really outdid themselves, especially being able to balance the character development with all the other aspects of the movie, making it a movie that is also able to have mass appeal while also being very well written and executed.
- Hans was a good villain. I wouldn't call him my favorite, as I don't even really consider him much of a villain more like an antagonist. The dude just wants what's best for this peaceful town, and his idea is different from Anna's. That's actually pretty grey for a Disney movie and surprised they went with something like this. Hans isn't my favorite villain, but he is one of my favorite characters.
- Kristoff was pretty badass in my opinion. He's a dork (but then again, he was raised by trolls), but he's a working man and easy to relate to. Really enjoyed his dynamic with the rest of the cast. He isn't a thief like Flynn, or a shady mofo like Aladdin, he's just someone who collects ice for a living. He's a regular dude who is willing to help his friends, and he deserves Anna's pootang more than Hans for the hell Anna put Kristoff through.

As for the mistakes of the movie...most people would be like, "Oh, it isn't as good as The Lion King." or "Well it may be good, but it's no Beauty and the Beast." But I don't think it'll do me any good, stating what movies I liked better than Frozen or else I'd be here all night. You got to look at now and the future when it comes to Disney or else you'll be clinging too much to the past. With Frozen, Disney did a good job making a high quality film in an era where animated movies are a form is dying to the grasp of Hollywood producers who are interested in making a dollar more than making a film. Obviously Disney wants to make money, but instead they took the more risky route and made a good movie to go along with it being a marketing success, and I think everyone should commend them for that. They did it with Tangled, and they did it again with Frozen and upped it up to an even better level.

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Hey there Big One, I'm glad you loved it, and I agree, if we view the new Disney movies instead of comparing them to the old ones, they would be the great films as they were especially when it comes to the songs. I still stand that Frozen is a movie that could fit comfortably with the "Big Four Disney films", to the point where the creativity of the animation and it's song/score can be the ones that hold up on their own two snowy feet just like past Disney films.
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Musical Master wrote:Just to let it out, is it wrong of me to think that Frozen's soundtrack is better than Pocahontas's song and score? I still stand on that Hunchback is one of Disney's all time best soundtracks.
It's not "wrong", it's just your opinion.
Oh, okay thanks. :) I think the hymn at the beginning and Frozen Heart makes it a better opening than Pocahontas. Just sayin! :P

Oh and due to more positive reviews on RT, the rating went up to 86%, the same as Wreck it Ralph.
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I saw it on Friday, and I LOVED it. One of my favourite all-time Disney movies, I think, and the best they've had in ages. I was afraid to come discuss it on UD, because I thought there'd be a lot of people tearing it up (I've seen some of that on tumblr, and I figured it'd be worse on here). But I just skimmed over the past couple of pages, smiling and nodding in agreement at almost everything.

Most of all I'm amazed that Disney put a sister relationship as the focus of their movie. What's more, they nailed it. That is a true achievement for any movie, really. I could see my older sister and myself in Elsa and Anna. It makes me so happy and proud of Disney. I actually shed a tear of pride and happiness at the end of the movie. :P
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I saw the movie at least twice now (the first time with my folks last Saturday in 2D, and today in 3D). And I can honestly say I loved this movie. :)
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I just saw it and I thought it was great! The music was so good. Disney's been doing so well lately, I'm happy about that :D
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Linden wrote: Most of all I'm amazed that Disney put a sister relationship as the focus of their movie. What's more, they nailed it. That is a true achievement for any movie, really. I could see my older sister and myself in Elsa and Anna. It makes me so happy and proud of Disney. I actually shed a tear of pride and happiness at the end of the movie. :P
Exactly. That, and Elsa's character, is where this movie shines for me. I mean the whole movie is great, and one of my favorites by far. But Frozen's portrayal of sisters is the best and most realistic i've ever seen on film before. So many of their quirks and tiny, tinydetails in their relationship are things I did and still do with my older sister. They nailed everything in a sister relationship, from Anna looking under the door and bothering her older sister (I totally did that as a kid when my sister wanted privacy), to the way they talk, and more importantly, look at each other. I don't really know if other people realize this, but when you have a really close sister there is usually this certain way you look at each other. In my experience, the younger sister is always looks at the older sister with such awe and amazed respect, as if they are perfect, just like Anna does with Elsa. And the older sister usually gives her a loving look of amusement. But at the same time, they are always there to comfort and help each other during harder times (FTFTIF Reprise). This deep, unique care that close sisters have for each other is shown so perfectly in Frozen, and is one of the two reasons this movie will always hold a special place in my heart. Unfortunately, This care also sparked questionable "elsanna" fanart already popping up on tumblr, so it was a pretty risky thing for disney to do (although i'm sure it would've happened no matter how they portrayed their relationship). I think I already went into certain lines that further this really accurate younger/older sister relationship, but for me it was one of the best parts of the movie just because of how much i saw me and my sister on the screen.
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^Yes, yes, yes. I'm the younger, more optimistic and energetic sister who was always jumping on my sister's bed and forcing her into things. I still do that actually. And no one can stop me until she moves out. My sister's the more mature and withdrawn one. I watched Frozen being able to relate and respect both of the ladies. They were treated as actual characters. I can't remember ever seeing a female character like Elsa in an animated movie, or even a family movie. Anna's character is good too (I really liked that her naivete affected the plot), but Elsa's almost revolutionary. She's dignified, mature, really vulnerable, and a little playful deep down.

I like how you described Elsa and Anna's interactions. I didn't really think about it in detail like that, but you're right. I saw a gif a little while ago on Tumblr showing Anna flop on top of Elsa when they were kids, and it looked so natural and comfortable. Elsa opens her eyes then closes them, like if she doesn't react, maybe Anna will go away. Little details like that are something you don't get to see very often, and it's sort of ridiculous that a realistic sister relationship would make me so excited. It's 2013.

Elsanna stuff was bound to happen. Anything and everything will be shipped, and it can't be helped. It can be blacklisted though. :twisted:
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Linden wrote:^Yes, yes, yes. I'm the younger, more optimistic and energetic sister who was always jumping on my sister's bed and forcing her into things. I still do that actually. And no one can stop me until she moves out. My sister's the more mature and withdrawn one.
Yesss i still do that to my sister too. When we are together anyway. And when we aren't I do pretty similar things but through internet chat. Within the sister/sister relationship, I am totally Anna. Im the younger sister and i'm more energetic, when im with my sister. I also do those little sister things i mentioned Anna does. In my first long post on this thread after seeing an early screening, I go further into how Anna sees Elsa in this way. However, personality-wise, I relate to Elsa a lot more. As a queer woman, I feel like I share a lot of her struggles with acceptance, fear, and isolation.
Linden wrote:I watched Frozen being able to relate and respect both of the ladies. They were treated as actual characters. I can't remember ever seeing a female character like Elsa in an animated movie, or even a family movie. Anna's character is good too (I really liked that her naivete affected the plot), but Elsa's almost revolutionary. She's dignified, mature, really vulnerable, and a little playful deep down.

I like how you described Elsa and Anna's interactions. I didn't really think about it in detail like that, but you're right. I saw a gif a little while ago on Tumblr showing Anna flop on top of Elsa when they were kids, and it looked so natural and comfortable. Elsa opens her eyes then closes them, like if she doesn't react, maybe Anna will go away. Little details like that are something you don't get to see very often, and it's sort of ridiculous that a realistic sister relationship would make me so excited. It's 2013.
I totally agree. Haha I know it's pretty disappointing that it took so long but just so wonderful that we are finally getting it, and in such a polished form. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that this is the first woman (co)director of a disney animated film?? I need that "Coincidence? I think not!" gif from the incredibles. Not to mention that Jennifer Lee is just wonderful and Disney is lucky to have her.

Yes, I saw that gif on tumblr too, that's a good point. And just look at how they look at each other during the coronation party. That's another really great touch, even if it is a little bit emphasized because it is the first time they are actually talking and enjoying each other's company in a long time. The emotion portrayed in their faces is something I've never seen before in an animated film.
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Re: Frozen: Part V

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I loved Frozen! It's just as good as Tangled!
I'll keep my points brief not to spoil anyone!
(POSSIBLE SPOILERS?)

Points I liked
- The Score
- The characters, Elsa in particular
- Olaf was actually really cute
- animation

Points I thought could have been worked on
- The villain could have done with more development, like i didn't really get that "sinister" feel that i gained from Mother Gothel
- Han's ending
- Just like a brief background for Kristoff, (like why he lived where he did)
- An explanation for Elsa's powers. Ala Rapunzel
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Re: Frozen: Part V

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Sven seems to have outlived the average reindeer life expectancy by a lot. He should be DEAD! :x

Or at least he's approaching his end...
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