



What did you think of the songs by Robert Lopez and Kristen Lopez?Alphapanchito wrote:I haven't posted in a long time, but I saw this on thursday, so I figured I'd post some thoughts. I'm one of those people really really excited after seeing it. I do think it is one of my favorite post walt movies, probably tied for first with the little mermaid.
I see what Edthehyena might saying, because to me it felt so different and so new. I haven't ever seen any movie like this before. And I saw it in 3D and in the first row, so the impressive visuals and intense story were very overwhelming to me.
The audience reaction was wonderful. I saw a lot of people holding hands as they were leaving the theater. it was truly a touching story. The audience also laughed a lot at Olaf, and I do think he is actually funny and has a good role in the movie besides just being comic releif.
Okay from here there are real spoilers, talking about specific scenes that stuck out for me and my initial thoughts about them.
My only gripe is that the ending happened too fast for me. Elsa learned that love was the answer, i just wish they showed more about how she learned to love. I suppose the act of love that Anna just did towards her helped that along, but still it just felt a little rushed. Maybe I just loved it so much, I didn't want it to end. I don't know.
I loved how romance didn't play much of a role. I'm so glad the act of love that saved Anna was an act of sisterly love, not romantic love. I'm glad Anna's relationship with Kristoff is left very open ended, and that last kiss could've been more of a friendly kiss, because she was just so thankful for everything he did for her. But I feel like its not a deep true love, at least not from what we've seen. And im even more glad Elsa didn't have any love interest at all. Even Hans mentioned that nobody could "get anywhere with her". I think everyone can agree that she had a lot more to worry about.
The audience was soo stunned when Han's true nature was revealed. A real, collective gasp happened, it was pretty cool to hear, actually. I was surprised that I heard no kids crying during the movie, since there were quite a few children in the theater.
I love how Anna sees Elsa. As a little sister myself, I always thought my sister was perfect and beautiful and someone to look up to. Disney captured this perfectly, with Anna saying "I never knew winter could be so beautiful" when she is walking through this frozen landscape of her sisters' emotions. And then in Elsa's castle, where Anna see's her with her hair down and relaxed for the first time, she just looks at her with such awe. She is breathtaken by how beautiful her sister is, as a person. I love that little honest facet of sisterhood they added there.
I also love how Anna tries to calm her sister in the For the First Time reprise. She knows that this is something that is really hard for her sister. So she takes the role of the older sister and is calm and cool and just tries to make her feel better and let her know that she is there for her now, and there is nothing to worry about. "We can climb down this mountain together" "We can fix this hand in hand" "you don't have to keep your distance anymore". And we can see Elsa wants that, but is too afraid to face all that comes with it. "There's so much fear"- I love that Elsa line because she is just being so honest with herself and her sister at that point. She knows what she has to do, and she is just so afraid of it because of how she's lived her life up until now.
This movie affected me personally. This is one of the most honest animated films i've ever seen (at least from disney). It hit me really hard, because I can relate to it in so many ways, and I believe a lot of people can. We all have some parts of Elsa in us, and this movie forces us to see that.
I always get really excited at new Disney movies, so this is obviously biased. But.. I think the creative team made something very important and special here.
Wow it sounds like this maybe the first Disney movie in a LONG time that the songs serve the story and continue the plot just like how Alan Menken and Howard Ashman did with their brilliant songs.estefan wrote:Got to see an advanced screening of "Frozen" and it supplies the right combination of magic, heart and humour we expect from Disney. Following "The Princess and the Frog" and "Enchanted"'s footsteps, one of Frozen's best traits is how it plays with fairy tale conventions. Elsa is a multi-layered character and we understand the personal pain she goes through. Her relationship with Anna is done extremely well. The songs by Robert and Kristen Lopez have a wonderful Broadway feel to them. Even how they are structured in the story is like out of a stage musical. "Let It Go" is my favourite song, perfectly showing Elsa's inner power letting out after years of isolation. Idina Menzel nails it. "For the First Time in Forever" and "Fixer Upper" are also delightful show-stoppers. Olaf the Snowman is a very funny sidekick and more pivotal to the Anna-Elsa relationship than you might imagine. Of course, the animation is fantastic. Elsa's Ice Castle is especially rendered to perfection and the characters are enjoyable. The humour works, too, especially with Anna. Her clumsiness is handled well and Kristen Bell gives a fantastic vocal performance. I was also impressed with the direction the story goes and the chances "Frozen" takes.
The short that plays prior to "Frozen", "Get a Horse" was a delight. As a fan of old-school and rubber-hose animation, I got a real kick out of it.
Nope, you did greatAlphapanchito wrote:Musical Master: They are one of the best parts of the movie, besides Elsa and Anna's characters/relationship. The only song that I wasn't too into was the Fixer Upper one, but it wasn't horrible, it just felt like it was reaching a little too hard? I mean it was sung beautifully. I might need to see it again to have a real opinion on this, because the song itself is great, it just felt a little out of place especially when we know anna is in grave danger, and they just waste time with this silly song. I suppose it had a little relationship development for anna and kristoff, but I'll have to watch again.
Again I think For the First Time in Forever Reprise is one of the most powerful songs i've heard in a long time. It gets across so much about in such a small amount of time. We see the intricacies of Anna and Elsa's relationship, and we see Elsa's thought process and just how vulnerable and scared she is.
Do you Wanna Build a Snowman is both charming and heartbreaking. After this song filled with adorable pleas of connection with Elsa, we see Anna finally giving up and walking past her door at the end. The contrast between hopeful, playful singing child and teenager Anna giving up on Elsa is heartbreaking.
Love is an Open Door is so catchy and just fun to watch. My foot was tapping during it. Fun is really the way to describe it- it is just like watching a highschool date where you are kinda lovesick but you don't notice because of how much fun you are having.
In Summer. Olafs song was a blast. The whole theater was laughing. I heard several people finish Olaf's sentence out loud when he sings "Winter's a good time to stay in and cuddle, but put me in summer and I'll be a..." with "Puddle" (he walks past a puddle as he sings this), and the audience laughed when he said "..Happy Snowman!" instead. I was so surprised this song didn't bother me, I thought it was cute and funny! It's hard to hate someone so innocent, and thats where I think they went right with olaf.
Frozen Heart sounds amazing. I was too overwhelmed to enjoy it thought- with all the lyrics coming at me and the super impressive visuals and ice saws coming straight at my face in 3D. Excited to pay more attention in future viewings.
For the First Time in Forever made me fall in love with Anna. I didn't know how I was going to feel about her before this song but it is a perfect "i want" song where we get to see a lot of cute little Anna quirks, my favorite being when she dramatically pretends to be devastatingly gorgeous wrapped up in a curtain leaning on a wall when she sings "Imagine me gown and all, fetchingly draped against the wall, a picture of sophisticated grace".
Reindeers Are Better Than People had a wonderful audience reaction. It was pretty funny, and I liked it. nothing special though, its cute.
Let me know if I missed any haha.
Well, I love The Princess and the Frog with all of my heart and feel the songs there were perfectly placed and helped advance the plot and characters. But, Frog is one of my favourite Disney animated films of all-time and I'm well-aware of being in the minority opinion there.Musical Master wrote: Wow it sounds like this maybe the first Disney movie in a LONG time that the songs serve the story and continue the plot just like how Alan Menken and Howard Ashman did with their brilliant songs.
Oh, and I have two questions: What did you think of Hans and how was The climax scene?
"Broke a mold"Alphapanchito wrote:I agree with most of what estafan said.
About the Duke
I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing during the Duke's dance. It was just so... Bizarre. And I suppose it didn't fit well either. However, I did get a kick out of whenever his kingdom was pronounced Weaseltown. The Duke just served as that stereotypical, scheming rat trying to get all he can. They play on that further where he says something like "I can't wait to learn Arendelles secrets and exploit their riches" and he even can't believe himself when he says "Did i just say that out loud?" Kinda a play on fairytale villains telling their victims their whole evil scheme. I didn't really enjoy his character, but I appreciate what the writers were trying to do, and then they compare him, a fairytale villain, with Hans, who is a more real life villain, manipulating Anna and planning to kill her sister. Like whoa.
About the climax
I thought it was brilliant. Loved that they didn't go the whole magical flower fireworks route that saved flynn and brought anna back to life more realistically, with the love flowing subtly from her heart to the rest of her body. Again, wasn't so keen on how quickly elsa learned to love and control her powers.
Also: Did how detailed Anna's frozen body looked bother anyone else? I don't know, it looked a little odd and almost comical and took me out of the story for a bit.
EDIT I want to add another thing about the climax
I was surprised they were that daring too. They are saying that Elsa being cold and dismissive to Anna not only hurt her sister, but killed her. Or at least froze her. That's a really risky thing to say and I appreciate the filmmakers SO much for that. I also love that they show that nothing is ever permanent, and you can always mend things with people, especially family. And Elsa and Anna's embrace at the end is just that much more special because of the events that preceded it.
I'm also glad they were cool with breaking that disney tradition of "an act of love" being romantic love. There are other, sometimes stronger kinds of love. Anna already froze, but was able to thaw anyway because of just how strong their love is for each other.
Disney took so many risks with Frozen and definitely broke a mold.
I would say it was my favorite post walt movie, possibly tied or slightly above the little mermaid. I am saying this only because it hit me deeply because its theme resonates with me so well and I can relate to both Elsa and Anna in so many important ways. I actually was crying for a while after the movie because it brought up some bad things I don't like about myself, and a movie has to be pretty powerful and relateble to do that, i would think. Of course I am also a really emotional person, so there's that. I'd be afraid of ranking it against walt movies just yet because I do get really excited about new movies, and i need to see it a couple more times before I form a meaningful opinion.Musical Master wrote:Where do you rank this movie with the other Disney movies?
Let it go was all I was hoping it to be. We got to see an amazing display of Elsa's powers, some of which received gasps from the crowd. I loved that we got to see Elsa's playful side, as she laughed a little at her newfound freedom when she thinks about how horrible the past was. and though at first she seems so small on that mountain, as she lets out her powers more, you see she changes the landscape with her castle, and really meets her whole potential. As she said "I didn't know what I was capable of" when Anna complimented her on the castle. It is hard to explain, but it is visually beautiful, amazing. I love how the music changes when she gets different emotions throughout the song, and so does the type of magic she does. In the begininng when she is just so happy to be free, she is giddy, and builds olaf just like she did with Anna when they were little. Then she starts to realize how much she can actually do, and the drums come in, and she builds her castle and lets down her hair and throws away that crown that has been holding her back. Her facial expressions here are of pure ecstasy mixed with relief and excitement for the future, and it really is something to watchMusical Master wrote:How was the Let it Go sequence?
At times I found myself staring at the backgrounds rather than the characters. Especially in 3D, some of those frozen forest scenes and mountain scenes were really stunning. The Frozen landscape was also wonderful to see because it showed some of elsa's emotions too, like where the icicles are blown off cliffs sideways. It just shows her fear and anxiety, and you can see it in her ice. That's really cool. Love her ice castle too, where it actually changes color and texture with her emotion at the time. I can go more into this if you want/another time when more comes to me.What did you think of the art direction by Mike Giaimo?
This isn't too spoilery but i just want to be safePatrickvD wrote:Is it ever addressed what Elsa ... eats?
Nothing grows up there in the mountains...