Why do people hate Princess and the Frog so much?

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Big One wrote:
DisneyJedi wrote: If Louis the Alligator was involved, I probably didn't pay attention, cause there wasn't anything worth paying attention to. I'm still confused why Disney greenlit that anti-sales piece of garbage character. It's like they didn't want to make money off the film.
Okay, now you sound just like them! It's people like you that I hate to no end. People who just badmouth anyone (fictional or real) that I happen to like just to get a rise out of me.

Pray tell, did you even READ how he's not a terrible character or are you too busy being ignorant?

And as for you, Super Aurora, don't think I wasn't referring to you as one of those jerks.

Also, there's a fine line between voicing an opinion and being downright ignorant.
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DisneyJedi wrote: And by the way, I hate to be rude, but from the way you're talking down to me, you sound just like two jerkwads (that will go unnamed for their sake) that I know who always egged me on about a similar thing to the point of making me act out and getting in trouble with the administrators.
Since I know you're obviously referring to me. You should be aware that I was the one who introduce Big one to this forum, the disney fandom, and the community.
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Big One wrote:
Okay, now you sound just like them! It's people like you that I hate to no end. People who just badmouth anyone (fictional or real) that I happen to like just to get a rise out of me.

Pray tell, did you even READ how he's not a terrible character or are you too busy being ignorant?

And as for you, Super Aurora, don't think I wasn't referring to you as one of those jerks.

Also, there's a fine line between voicing an opinion and being downright ignorant.
I did read your opinion about Louis the Alligator, and it was irrelevant. The roles that Louis the Alligator had could've been filled by anyone else in the film, or a new character that wasn't annoying and somewhat likable similar to Ray.

Ultimately, however, neither of our opinions matters, it's what makes Disney money that matters when it comes to the success of a character. Louis the Alligator didn't do jack squat in this regard and Disney probably lost thousands of dollars to put him into the film they could've saved for a better investment.
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You know, Big One, I hope your opinion(s) get you in trouble one day.
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DisneyJedi wrote: And as for you, Super Aurora, don't think I wasn't referring to you as one of those jerks.
I'm not stupid. I knew you were referring to me the moment I read the first word of the sentence. You're easy to read and predict.

DisneyJedi wrote:Also, there's a fine line between voicing an opinion and being downright ignorant.
You seems to not even know the meaning of the word ignorant, do you? What he said on Louis was his sole opinion and view on the creation and construction of the character. Just because he dislike a character you have extreme attraction for doesn't not make him ignorant. Ignorant is a person being uninformed and not knowing of something. What he typed clearly shows he watched the movie and was able to make an analysis on the basic of the movie.
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Yeah, and I happened to fall asleep during the movie. :roll:
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DisneyJedi wrote:You know, Big One, I hope your opinion(s) get you in trouble one day.
You know DisneyJedi, I hope your opinions get you looked down upon by the majority of living human beings.






















.....Oh wait, they do.
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You know what, Big One? You truly are a rude person.
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Uh oh..... This is getting heated..... :huh:
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DisneyJedi wrote:You know what, Big One? You truly are a rude person.
You're the one who's rude and even started it. He voiced his own thoughts on a character and you went butthurt mode over it despite not even intending to offend you. You have no one but yourself to blame.
Musical Master wrote:Uh oh..... This is getting heated..... :huh:
Nah. The one who's getting heated is Disney Jedi. It would happen with anyone who voice any hint of negativity to his beloved character.
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At least I don't provoke others and egg them on to the point that they're the ones who get in trouble for something that wasn't even their fault and not me.
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[quote="Super Aurora
Musical Master wrote:Uh oh..... This is getting heated..... :huh:
Nah. The one who's getting heated is Disney Jedi. It would happen with anyone who voice any hint of negativity to his beloved character.[/quote]

Oh okay.

But I will definetly be on your side because an opinion is still an opinion and no one should be enraged by something like that.
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DisneyJedi wrote:At least I don't provoke others and egg them on to the point that they're the ones who get in trouble for something that wasn't even their fault and not me.
While I have did some provoking on you for shits and and giggles and I even admit to this. However you're just as guilty because you can't control your temper and your emotional feeling and lash out on it so easily, especially on the fucking internet. I can't even imagine how you would handle the real world.
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Yeah, Musical Master. And no one should have to egg others on until the one being egged on ends up being made to look like the bad guy. Believe me, I already get egged on enough by my siblings up until they end up making me look like the bad guy just so they won't get in trouble.
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DisneyJedi wrote:You know what, Big One? You truly are a rude person.
DisneyJedi let me deconstruct exactly why you're wrong. I'm actually a pretty nice guy who treats people with respect no matter if they're homeless and out of work, or are the richest most corrupt man on the planet. When I go into threads, the only time I'd ever straight up start insult wars is if was trolling which I never did in this thread once. No, instead I did what I was supposed to do on a message board and voice my opinion in a logical, neutral, sound way.

But let's see how you entered into this thread...
DisneyJedi wrote:Okay, Big One? About you claiming that Louis was the worst Disney character?

How.

Freaking!

DARE YOU?! :angry:

You act like he caused a corrupted chancellor to turn congress into a galaxy wide tyrannical Empire, aka a Jar-Jar. Sure, he took Tiana and Naveen in the wrong direction to Mama Odie, but if it weren't for him, they wouldn't have gotten back to New Orleans, Tiana and Naveen wouldn't have started to fall in love and Tiana might not have even gotten her restaurant.

Oh, and when he got a shot at his dream to play with the big boys, he willingly gave that up to go after Ray when he was in peril. And he managed to get his dream in the end.

You might see my ranting as pointless defense, but I doubt you'd understand.
You start out acting irrational and heated over someone's opinion, which is a big no-no and is terrible forum ethics. It isn't exactly against the rules to get angry about someone's opinion as I'm too guilty of it at times even if I don't always depict it on the forums. The issue with the anger you have to intro your post is that you're bringing your personal feelings into a mostly neutral subject and trying to pass it off as a legitimate opinion. The lack of self control is looked down upon in pretty much every message board circles and is often found amusing, hence why you get picked on so much by people on UD. I'd suggest you change it.

Secondly, in what I bolded up above, you said, "I doubt you'd understand." Why, in god's name, would you doubt I would understand your opinion? You spelled it out clear and concise and I had absolutely no problem understanding what it meant. But no, that wasn't a concern for how your message gets interpreted, that's literally saying I'm not adequate enough to understand your opinion, which is insulting.

I then respond with this...
Big One wrote:I could write an thesis on how much better of a character Jar Jar Binks is to Louis the Alligator. That's how bland and uninspired Louis the Alligator is. Even in a business sense Louis the Alligator was a flop as Disney attempted to reinvent a merchandising machine it had in other iconic animal characters like Baloo, Stitch, Timon and Pumba, etc. Probably one of the most forgettable characters in Disney history.

What's worse is that he worked alongside Ray who, while not the greatest animal character ever, had an actual character arc and likable personality. Hell most of the cast in that movie did, but Louis didn't. But that's just in lue of other Disney gag characters so it's ok in concept, but when Louis runs around acting like an idiot playing the trumpet cause it's funny LOL ALLIGATOR PLAYING A TRUMPET, the humor just becomes forced and unnecessary. I can't even remember a single comical scene with Louis the Alligator, probably cause there wasn't one and if there was no one gave a shit because it was so unfunny, forgettable, and people cared more about everything else going on in the movie. The animated waters of New Orleans in the background are a hundred times more memorable than the antics of Louis the Alligator.

I will say at least he isn't as annoying as Gurgi from The Black Cauldron; I almost forgot about Gurgi, and for good reason too. At least Louis has that going for him in the list of 1 billion other characters in fictional mediums that are better than Gurgi.
Not once in this post I make any insults towards you, nor did I address any of the insulting content in the post I was responding to. Why? Because I know how to keep my cool.

This is your response...
DisneyJedi wrote:I'm sorry, Big. But did you even watch the movie enough to- I dunno- pay attention?

I doubt you did. And by the way, I hate to be rude, but from the way you're talking down to me, you sound just like two jerkwads (that will go unnamed for their sake) that I know who always egged me on about a similar thing to the point of making me act out and getting in trouble with the administrators.

And by the way, your so-called "thesis" would just turn out to be bull-crap.
Again, even more insults for absolutely no reason. Instead of actually forming a response to any of my opinions, you insult me and also claim I'm talking down to you. No, I was talking down to Louis the Alligator, and you aren't Louis the Alligator cause Louis the Alligator is fictional and you aren't.

Simply put, DisneyJedi, you're comically delusional and that's not an insult, that's a FACT. You interpret people's opinions that are contrary to yours as if they're trying to insult you. You tell me I'd get in trouble for my opinions, but your attitude is exactly how someone would get in trouble for their opinions.

Learn to be more professional in how you carry yourself on a forum. You're an adult for Christ's sake.
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Oh my... :oops:

disneyprincess11, I'm sorry your thread went off tangent. If it helps, I don't hate Princess and the Frog. Neither does anyone I know. The biggest complaints I've heard is the humor in general is too forced, and that the story doesn't offer much new. My dad personally thinks it's a boring movie, but nothing bad.
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And I suppose using my own posts against me to make me look like a hypocrite is more mature? Yeah. That's real "mature". :roll:
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DisneyJedi wrote:Yeah, Musical Master. And no one should have to egg others on until the one being egged on ends up being made to look like the bad guy. Believe me, I already get egged on enough by my siblings up until they end up making me look like the bad guy just so they won't get in trouble.
But DisneyJedi, you overreacted way to much to one person's opinion on a character in a Disney film. I don't think it was worth going over the top rage on.

I agree Warm Regards, this is getting way off topic.
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Um........I think I'll stay out of this. Bye! :shifty:
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DisneyJedi wrote:And I suppose using my own posts against me to make me look like a hypocrite is more mature? Yeah. That's real "mature". :roll:
Make you look like a hypocrite? Those posts prove you're a hypocrite, a liar, and is delusional. You've already lost, and I suggest you tread lightly when you try to pick a flame war with me.
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