Nice Star Wars Menus + new changes to OT!

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:44 am

Sure, not Disney, but it's the next best thing! Star Wars!!!!! Got this DVD menu from http://www.millenniumfalcon.com's forum. Thanks Klownicle! These are apparently from a leaked copy of the ROTJ disc. Yeah, a lot like Ep. 1 & 2, but I'm so excited to see this stuff. Plus, this is a prefect example of how Disney should set up their menu systems!

http://209.235.23.228:30081/rotj/rotj-menu.mpg

1. anamorphic widescreen menu
2. short animated sequence at the beginning
3. simple options on the main face of the menu system, although I think Disney's nailed it with EasyFind
4. Background shot from or ressembling the film itself
5. Optional mini anmation from important sequences in the film

N.B.: Although, I must admit, I find the Podrace anmation sequence in the Chapter Selection, quite annoying, especially if I'm going from 1 to 24, per se

UPDATE: BTW, I know you all aren't SW fans, but I thought I might as well include some mirrors to the screencaps and mpeg video files that have leaked around the net. They've been hard to find, and I hope you all enjoy.

A New Hope Screencaps
Empire Strikes Back Screencaps
Return of the Jedi Screencaps
OT DVD Change: Palpatine/Vader conversation
OT DVD Change: Temuera Morrison as Boba's Voice
The Hayden in ROTJ Mirror

P.S.: Luke, feel free to move this to Off-Topic. It really doesn't have much to do with Disney anyways.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:43 am

This really should be in off topic, but...

I find the Jabba screencaps hilarious.
So Lucas shows that he will have to update this every few years. It is not enough to add a CGI Jabba to the film in 1997, but the CGI of only 7 years ago looks dated enough to need updating

If you ever needed an argument against CGI creature features, then this is it!

Plus, it doesn't look as though he has done a CGI Jabba in Jedi, so what was the point of updating the Jabba in Star Wars at all?

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:01 am

Loomis wrote:This really should be in off topic, but...

I find the Jabba screencaps hilarious.
So Lucas shows that he will have to update this every few years. It is not enough to add a CGI Jabba to the film in 1997, but the CGI of only 7 years ago looks dated enough to need updating

If you ever needed an argument against CGI creature features, then this is it!

Plus, it doesn't look as though he has done a CGI Jabba in Jedi, so what was the point of updating the Jabba in Star Wars at all?

I must admit though, this CGI is much better. The skin looks pretty darn good. For any Hyperspace members here, the Official Site even has it's first Yoda pic, and he looks amazing! Just as good as Gollum, if not better. This skin is sooo life-like, although it's different once the object is actually moving.

I too am surprised GL hasn't "updated" Jabba and Yoda in the OT. Prehaps he saving that for the Hi Def rereleases. I have heard though that when the two prequels are rereleased in conjunction with Revenge of the Sith, Yoda will get a makeover for Ep. 1 in CGI, including the puppet shots! I guess it's a good thing Henson never did Yoda; what a disgrace it would've been to him (no offence to second-best Frank Oz though)

DisneyChris · Post by **DisneyChris** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:50 am

It seems that Greedo is still shooting first.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:05 am

yoda_four wrote: I must admit though, this CGI is much better. The skin looks pretty darn good.

Of course it looks better!!! It was done in 2003/2004...as opposed to what you could do in 1977.

Snow White would look way cooler if it was made today, but we wouldn't be as impressed. 44th Disney Animated film doesn't sound as impressive as The One That Started it All.

All these new effects are simply window-dressing, and many people consider the originals classics. If the originals truly are classics, then they certainly would need any touching up (and in my opinion they are classics, and they don't need any touching up).

alex.robinson · Post by **alex.robinson** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:30 am

Loomis wrote: Snow White would look way cooler if it was made today

You really think so? I really, really, don't see how it could be bettered.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:35 am

He didn't say better. He said cooler.

Ditch all the multi-plane camera stuff for 3D CGI, put some effects around the witch's transformation, how about a few CG enhanced tracking shots.

It would undoubtably be cooler and "appeal to kids today more". It wouldn't be better. Which is his whole Star Wars argument.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:41 am

alex.robinson wrote:
Loomis wrote: Snow White would look way cooler if it was made today
You really think so? I really, really, don't see how it could be bettered.

Yes, that was my point.

As 2099net pointed out, I said "cooler" not better.

My point is if George Lucas really wants to do now what he could have done with the benefit of 30 years of technology, then make new films. Oh wait, he is doing that! Why not just leave it at that?

Post by **Luke** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:22 am

I've really liked the menus for Episode I and Episode II, and this seems in line with that. The introduction might be a little tiny bit long, but they're really nice looking, and like everything that's "Star Wars", I don't think anyone minds just taking in the impressive visuals.

Disney Guru · Post by **Disney Guru** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:29 am

Hi,

Even though I am going to by the March 2nd Release of Gnome Mobile here is the menu on the DVD that I got of it a bout 3 years ago. I think it is pretty cool.

Satoshi · Post by **Satoshi** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:25 am

Wow, those screen caps are awesome! Thanks for linking to them yoda_four!

Most of the changes actually look good. Plus I just can't wait to have Star Wars on DVD, and in widescreen. September 21st can't come soon enough....

Kram Nebuer · Post by **Kram Nebuer** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:42 am

The menu link doesn't work anymore...just Incredifind...

. Oh well. But the screencaps work!

Thanks for the links, yoda_four!

I agree that everything looks cooler and more hi-tech, but I don't think it really fits with the rest of the film. I mean the rest of the film looks like a futuristic far off galaxy as seen as of the 1980's and adding new millenium technology just doesn't seem right. It still looks cool though.

I don't like how they changed Anakin at the end of RotJ

. Isn't Anakin supposed to be older? I find it hard to see that Hayden Christmas or whatever his name is to be the father of Luke (Skywalker, not the one we all know here

). They should just keep the old one. It didn't need changing. It's like if the changed dubbed over Bobby Driscoll's voice in Peter Pan to sound like Blaine Weaver (Peter in Return to Neverland). You just don't mess with that kind of stuff. Lol, sorry for rambling

. I'll stop before a big debate comes up.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:03 pm

Disney Guru wrote:Hi,

Even though I am going to by the March 2nd Release of Gnome Mobile here is the menu on the DVD that I got of it a bout 3 years ago. I think it is pretty cool.

WHAT does this have to do with anything?

I love how they've made the menus match those of the prequels. It gives the DVD's a real sense of consistancy. As for the changes, what are you gonna do? What's done is done and like I've said before, these changes don't bother me since Lucas is trying to unify the series as a whole. What bothers me is that Lucas isn't offering the originals to fans. I do think that he's full of it, though, in saying the originals will never be available. I believe they will be and that he's just saying that to get people to double dip on this and whatever future set he'll be coming out with.

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:05 pm

Loomis wrote:
yoda_four wrote: I must admit though, this CGI is much better. The skin looks pretty darn good.
Of course it looks better!!! It was done in 2003/2004...as opposed to what you could do in 1977.

Snow White would look way cooler if it was made today, but we wouldn't be as impressed. 44th Disney Animated film doesn't sound as impressive as The One That Started it All.

All these new effects are simply window-dressing, and many people consider the originals classics. If the originals truly are classics, then they certainly would need any touching up (and in my opinion they are classics, and they don't need any touching up).

I was comparing the new CGI to the old CGI from 1997. Besides, this scene wasn't even in the original and it would've been very hard to do it with a puppet.

TheZue · Post by **TheZue** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:52 pm

I was really hoping the rumors of Gungans celebrating were false, but aparently not

I'm getting used to the idea of Hayden replacing the old anakin though. But I still wish I could get a copy of the original on dvd.

Kram Nebuer · Post by **Kram Nebuer** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:58 pm

Disneykid wrote:
Disney Guru wrote:Hi,

Even though I am going to by the March 2nd Release of Gnome Mobile here is the menu on the DVD that I got of it a bout 3 years ago. I think it is pretty cool.

WHAT does this have to do with anything?

The topic used to be called "This is what I call a good DVD menu!" I guess he was answering that.

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:03 pm

Kram Nebuer wrote:
Disneykid wrote: WHAT does this have to do with anything?
The topic used to be called "This is what I call a good DVD menu!" I guess he was answering that.

Ya.

My fault... I changed it because it's got way more to do with SW than any menu really.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:39 pm

Oh, okay. My apologies go out to the Guru.

advance · Post by **advance** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:51 am

I really don't mind most changes, but the only one I think they shouldn't have done is pasting Haydens head in stead of the orginal anikan.
alright and turning darth's ligthsword pink...

advance · Post by **advance** » Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:51 am

I really don't mind most changes, but the only one I think they shouldn't have done is pasting Haydens head in stead of the orginal anikan.
alright and turning darth's ligthsword pink...

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