Discussion CGI Classics

[DC Fan]

Ok, so I tried to open a discussion regarding the original Walt´s Classics and no one cared...

So, let´s see if this one does work.

What do you think about?...

-Dinosaur: To be honest, this movie has grown on me. Back then the visuals impressed me. Still do. But nothing more. To me the whole thing was very bland. Plus, it didn´t help the fact of the Lion King´s fight rip off. Also, being The Land Before Time a much, much better film hurt Dinosaur more.

However, if you watch it with an open mind. Just enjoy it for what it it is...you do.

-Chicken Little: The one I truly hate. Unbelievable that Disney went the Shrek route with their Classics. Plus, the characters were bland and the plot became worse as the movie went along.

Maybe when I get it for the collection and watch it again as just an animated movie (and forget is meant to be a Classic) might like it at last.

-Meet the Robinsons: This one really annoys me. Too many characters. Too many characters that you don´t even remember. Extremely fast paced...To me is a mess. However, most people like it. I´ve never understood why. Guess, I´ll have to give it a try eventually.

-Bolt: The best of them all. Sadly, the movie starts great and ends up being just ok. Still, the better of the bunch.

[Sotiris]

Here's how I would rank Disney's CG films.

1. Wreck-It Ralph
2. Tangled
3. Bolt
4. Dinosaur
5. Chicken Little
6. Meet the Robinsons

[Mooky]

^^ Why is MTR so low on your list? I know it has its problems (mainly the second act), but surely it can't be worse than CL... can it? I saw Chicken Little once in a cinema and I could never get myself to watch it again. And believe me I tried, but I always ended up getting the disc out 15 minutes or so into the movie.

My list:
- Bolt
- Tangled
- Dinosaur
- Meet the Robinsons
- Wreck-It Ralph
- Chicken Little

[Sotiris]

Why is MTR so low on your list? I know it has its problems (mainly the second act), but surely it can't be worse than CL... can it?

I just don't dislike Chicken Little as much as every Disney fan seems to. While it certainly has its problems, I do find some redeeming qualities. For example, I enjoyed the characters and the humor even though the plot is thin and predictable.

As for Meet the Robinsons, I agree with DC Fan that it's too crowded and too random to appeal to me. The pace is frenetic, the characters are two-dimensional and underdeveloped, the gags are unfunny, the pseudo-villain is obnoxious, there are random scenes (like the one with the dinosaur) just for the sake of it, the animation is subpar, there's forced sentimentality. The film is just one big mess. While there are some interesting ideas and concepts, their potential is wasted in a very cluttered and sloppy narrative. I think it might be my least favorite film in all the Disney canon.

[NeverLand]

I just don't dislike Chicken Little as much as every Disney fan seems to. While it certainly has its problems, I do find some redeeming qualities. For example, I enjoyed the characters and the humor even though the plot is thin and predictable.

I couldn't agree more

It's enjoyable movie from start to finish.

Here's my rank:

1. Tangled
2. Wreck-It Ralph
3. Dinosaur
4. Chicken Little
5. Bolt
6. Meet the Robinsons

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Hmm, let's see:

Wreck-It Ralph
Dinosaur
Bolt
Tangled
Meet the Robinsons
Chicken Little

This was actually quite difficult for me because out of these six features, I really only enjoyed Wreck-It Ralph, which has beautiful animation and is quite fun. I've also only recently seen Tangled (it's been years since I've seen the other films); unlike a lot of Disney fans, Tangled was uninteresting and it felt like it was simply going over the same recognizable territory from the other Disney films. Alan Menken's music, while different from his more orchestral works, is still good; the downside is Glenn Slater's subpar lyrics (Mother Knows Best is the only exception, in my mind). At least the animation is well done...

[Sotiris]

Unlike a lot of Disney fans, Tangled was uninteresting and it felt like it was simply going over the same recognizable territory from the other Disney films.

I agree; it was too derivative of previous Disney films.

[rodis]

I've avoided some of Disney's early CG films mainly because it seems people and critics thought so little of them compared to Pixar. But after seeing "Tangled" and "Wreck It Ralph" and realizing Disney too can make a solid CG film I watched Bolt and it was quite a good film. It started out really good and then went down to "decent".

I'm gonna watch the other three in the coming week.

For now it's:

Tangled
Wreck It Ralph
Bolt

[DC Fan]

Guys,

The reason I didn´t include Tangled and Wrek it Ralph on the discussion was because they´re so much better that then previous efforts there´s just no comparison.

Although, be free to rank them and say what you will about them I´d like to keep the focus from Dinosaur until Bolt.

BTW, funny thing regarding Ralph.

When I watched it in theaters I loved it. It was truly great. And when it came out in BR I knew I wanted it but couldn´t afford it at the time. Then I could and I was hesitant! Don´t know why I was afraid the movie wouldn´t stand out repeated viewings. Still, I bought it. Just watched it once and want to do it again.

I´m glad I was mistaken.

[Sotiris]

The reason I didn't include Tangled and Wreck-It Ralph on the discussion was because they're so much better that the previous efforts, there's just no comparison.

As you may have noticed from the above posts, that is highly subjective.

[Semaj]

1. Wreck-it Ralph
2. Tangled
3. Bolt
4. Chicken Little
5. Meet the Robinsons

I have never seen Dinosaur. Chicken Little has a weird charm to it, where it makes a blatant appeal to the "Shrek" demographic, but has enough REAL humor where I didn't mind revisiting it. Despite its poor reputation for being the first of Disney's "permanent" switch to CGI, the main thing that drew me to this film is that it was directed by Mark Dindal, who of course brought us the underrated The Emperor's New Groove.

I don't hate Meet the Robinsons, but that film is highly forgettable. Bolt is more on the generic side.

Disney has obviously improved with each of their CGI efforts. Tangled was awesome despite its rocky history. Wreck-it Ralph was an unexpected surprise.

[DC Fan]

The reason I didn't include Tangled and Wreck-It Ralph on the discussion was because they're so much better that the previous efforts, there's just no comparison.

As you may have noticed from the above posts, that is highly subjective.

Still, one thing is personal tastes and another is to deny that quality speaking Tangled and Ralph are way over the previous CGI movies.

[FigmentJedi]

1. Wreck It Ralph
2. Meet the Robinsons
3. Tangled
4. Dinosaur
5. Bolt
6. Chicken Shittle

Robinsons has a lot of heart and great production design I appreciate. A lot of people complain about the family's size, but that's something carrying over from the source material that pretty much acts as the film's second act.

Tangled's great, but when trying to decide my top 3 of the CG films, Robinsons and Ralph took priority.

Dinosaur I still have a lot of nostalgia for and aside from the lemurs I think it holds up okay.

A lot of people like Bolt, but I find it pretty mediocre seeing as they took something that could have been pretty cool with American Dog and just turned it into "Buzz Lightyear goes Homeward Bound". Also, not a Disney film, but I like to think of Rango as being the closest thing we got to what American Dog could have been.

Chicken Little's probably the worst thing the studio's made alongside Home on the Range.

[Sotiris]

Still, one thing is personal taste and another is to deny that quality-speaking Tangled and Ralph are way over the previous CGI movies.

I can't deny their critical and commercial success but I can deny their "quality" which is something very broad and subjective.

[DancingCrab]

1. Tangled
2. Meet the Robinsons
3. Wreck It Ralph
4. Dinosaur
5. Bolt
6. Chicken Little

Tangled was the first time I bothered seeing a Disney movie more than once in theaters, since Tarzan. I welcomed with open arms the return of some of that 90's formula. A nostalgic judgement on my part maybe, but oh well.

Robinsons, had some rocky moments. The middle act almost lost me, but the film picked back up again and closed with a lot of heart. I love "Little Wonders" by Rob Thomas.

Ralph is a great film that I enjoyed a lot, but I'm just not personally excited about anything video game related, so this one slips below Robinsons on my list.

The other three movies are just "meh" in my book.

[Khonnor]

1. Tangled
2. Bolt
3. Dinosaur
4. Chicken Little
5. Wreck-It Ralph
6. Meet The Robinsons

[DC Fan]

Ralph is a great film that I enjoyed a lot, but I'm just not personally excited about anything video game related, so this one slips below Robinsons on my list.

That´s funny cause a friend of mine happened to not like it...and I have to say that she has the same reasoning as you regarding the video game source.

And that´s something I don´t get. I mean, yes it obviously deals with video games and player´s are the ones that will have a blast with it. However, when you have the movie as a whole it is not about video games. It is a movie about the friendship between these characters and how they overcome their obstacles.

If it worked with Toy Story...how come then people be put off by Ralph?

Like you said. Because of the source material your´re not that into it...however, you still find it very good.

My friend on the other hand just didn´t care for it.

Also, Sotiris, I´m glad you have the same opinion on Robinsons.

I watched it once and was like . What did I just watched?

Then, I read reviews praising it...and then I was like . Did people watched the same thing I did? I mean, they did not have to share my same opinion but certainly there had to be things to criticize. Like the dinosaur part you mentioned; it was really pathetic.

So, I watched it a second time. And still didn´t get it.

I´ll add it to my collection as long as the rest...and hopefully I will at least get what people see on it that is good.

PS

So far, in my list of Classics the bottom are:


54. Home on the Range (worst Classic ever)
53. The Fox and the Hound (find it too depressing and not very good. Feels to me half done)
52. Meet the Robinsons (for all the reasons given in my first post)
51. Chicken Little (check first post)
50. The Aristocats (find it half done too, boring, the soundtrack is as bad as Fox and Hound and it doesn´t do anything to me; as depressing a TFATH is at least makes me feel that way)

[RyGuy]

Here's my list:

1. Tangled
2. Wreck-it Ralph
(But just barely . . . I enjoyed both a lot and it's nearly a tie)
3. Bolt
4. Chicken Little
5. Meet the Robinsons
6. Dinosaurs

I get the hate for Chicken Little, but it makes me laugh. Meet the Robinsons was just ok. Dinosaur I find to be the most boring DAC ever with the possible exception of Bambi. I don't think I've seen either film all the way through more than twice as I get bored and lose interest.

[TsWade2]

1. Tangled
2. Wreck-It-Ralph
3. Bolt
4. Meet the Robinsons
5. Chicken Little
6. Dinosaur

Although I have to admit, Chicken Little is a bit mean spirited.

[DC Fan]

I don´t know what will happen with me when I have Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons in my collection when I watch them again.

Yes, I hate Little...but mostly because it really hurt me Disney went the Dreamworks´ route. And on top of everything most of the jokes were just so bad. But at least it tried to be funny and have myself to remember that Zach Braff is there.

Meet the Robinsons on the other hand tries to move beyond Dreamworks territory so I´ll have to give it points for that; although another joke that was just painful to watch was the one from the woman with the coffee patches.