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Iger isn't aware of every little detail so he shouldn't have been vague. He also said their last hand drawn film was The Princess & The Frog. Which is incorrect.

The fact that his statements come on the same day as news of new hand drawn shorts, makes it all the more obvious that he should have either not commented or make sure he's up to date on WDAS' upcoming slate.

Either way, who cares. I think great stuff is coming up.
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I only hope John and Ron's upcoming film for Disney is still using the Paperman technique.
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I usually really like Iger for the most part. But the fact that he doesn't know what their last traditional film was is ridiculous...
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SWillie! wrote:I usually really like Iger for the most part. But the fact that he doesn't know what their last traditional film was is ridiculous...
Well to be fair, barely anyone gave a shit about the pooh movie. Not surprising he'd forget too.
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Well, what can I say? Bob Iger,

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Super Aurora wrote:
SWillie! wrote:I usually really like Iger for the most part. But the fact that he doesn't know what their last traditional film was is ridiculous...
Well to be fair, barely anyone gave a shit about the pooh movie. Not surprising he'd forget too.
That's fine, but he's the PRESIDENT of the company. Regardless of quality, reception, or personal preference, it's his job to know this stuff. It just makes him look like someone who doesn't care all that much.
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Winnie the Pooh is overlooked because it's a sequel, just like The Rescuers Down Under. The last "original" hand-drawn film they made was TP&TF.
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Disney's Divinity wrote:Winnie the Pooh is overlooked because it's a sequel, just like The Rescuers Down Under. The last "original" hand-drawn film they made was TP&TF.
It's fine for it to be overlooked by the public, that's understandable and expected. But I don't think it's good for the president of a company to "overlook" a product made by his company.
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I personally think you're putting more weight to it than there is. I very much doubt he forgot about it. I'm guessing most of the head people at Disney never thought much on Winnie the Pooh. Neither did the public, really.
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I just feel he came off as pretty unprofessional, sounding like he was kind of guessing at vague answers.
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Sorry if this is already posted, but I just found this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/mar ... -animation


Disney, the Hollywood titan which brought the world classics such as Fantasia, Bambi and Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, has admitted it has no current plans to make hand drawn animated films.

Speaking at an annual shareholder's meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, on Wednesday, chief executive Bob Iger revealed that none of the studio's animation companies was working on 2D, hand-drawn material for the big screen. While Iger did not rule out returning in the future to the style which made the company famous, the long gestation period for Hollywood animated productions means a gap of several years before any new film might emerge.

"To my knowledge we're not developing a 2D or hand-drawn feature animated film right now," said Iger. "There is a fair amount of activity going on in hand-drawn animation but it's largely for television at this point. We're not necessarily ruling out the possibility [of] a feature but there isn't any in development at the company at the moment."

The news will upset fans of traditional hand-drawn animation, who had been cheered by the revival of the form under John Lasseter, the Pixar boss who also became Disney Animation's chief creative officer in 2006. Lasseter told a London audience for a 2009 screening of Bolt (a CGI animation) that he had re-hired many of the animators who were ditched by the previous regime because of the emergence of computer-generated technology in the 1990s.

"Unfortunately 2D became the excuse for poor storytelling," said Lasseter, who pioneered the CGI animation revolution with Toy Story in 1995. "The general consensus was that audiences did not want to watch hand-drawn animated films, which is of course completely ridiculous. The day I stepped in we got in touch with these guys and set about bringing back the artists that Disney had laid off."

The studio subsequently put the hand-drawn animation The Princess and the Frog into production. The traditional musical, based on the Brothers Grimm story the Frog Prince but relocating the action to 1920s New Orleans, was well-reviewed but failed to mirror the astounding success of Pixar at the box office with a middling return of $267m (£178m). Another hand-drawn animation – 2011's Winnie the Pooh – drew praise from critics but pulled in just $33m across the globe. Meanwhile, Disney CGI efforts such as 2009's Bolt and 2010's Tangled grossed $310m and $590m respectively.

It may not all be hard lines for the style that made the studio famous, however. One US blogger covering the news of hand-drawn animation's demise has pointed to rumours that Disney is planning a feature using similar techniques to the Oscar-winning short film Paperman. That film was produced by animators working with computers who were drawing rather than modelling images. The studio's animated film arm is also offering an eight-week intern program specifically in 2D animation this summer.
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disneyprincess11? That's... The exact article I linked everyone to a few posts back. The problem?

Everyone believes that the article means that Disney is forever done with the medium when it's the furthest thing from that. And now, apparently, someone is blowing it all out of proportion.

http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/4482061 ... -animation

Just because Iger said that there aren't any hand-drawn films in the works right now doesn't mean they're done with the animation style forever! Did they even read the whole fucking article?! :evil:
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For Pete's sake, Wade, that's exactly what I'm talking about when I mention blowing things out of proportion.
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DisneyJedi wrote:disneyprincess11? That's... The exact article I linked everyone to a few posts back. The problem?

Everyone believes that the article means that Disney is forever done with the medium when it's the furthest thing from that. And now, apparently, someone is blowing it all out of proportion.

http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/4482061 ... -animation

Just because Iger said that there aren't any hand-drawn films in the works right now doesn't mean they're done with the animation style forever! Did they even read the whole fucking article?! :evil:
Can you blame people for being freaked out?

Though, this is not nearly as devastating as it was in 2004.
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Semaj wrote:Can you blame people for being freaked out?
The thing is, there's nothing to be freaked out about, at all. Nothing that Iger said was news. We knew Disney didn't have any fully traditional films in the pipeline. We also know that the hand drawn team is still at work on SOMETHING. Everyone is taking what Iger said as some piece of news, when in fact it was simply a vague answer to a question that Iger wasn't totally sure how to answer.
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TsWade2 wrote:here's my reaction for this news:
"shitty youtube video"

Bob Iger! I hope you'll end up in jail for 100 years and you'll never get near to Disney ever again! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
I hope you shut the fuck up for once.

Igar should go to jail? More like you need be in an insane asylum.
DisneyJedi wrote:For Pete's sake, Wade, that's exactly what I'm talking about when I mention blowing things out of proportion.
I'm so glad DisneyJedi grew the fuck up and move on. I applaud you.
TsWade2 wrote:Still I want to punish Bob Iger for this!

Shhhhhhhhh! Be vewy vewy quiet! I'm hunting Bob Iger! :twisted:

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I'd rather Bob Igar bust a cap on yo ass instead.
TsWade2 wrote:Well, I know that. But that proves that Bob Iger is a coward!
No it just prove you're batshit insane.
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Super Aurora wrote:
TsWade2 wrote:here's my reaction for this news:
"shitty youtube video"

Bob Iger! I hope you'll end up in jail for 100 years and you'll never get near to Disney ever again! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
I hope you shut the fuck up for once.

Igar should go to jail? More like you need be in an insane asylum.
DisneyJedi wrote:For Pete's sake, Wade, that's exactly what I'm talking about when I mention blowing things out of proportion.
I'm so glad DisneyJedi grew the fuck up and move on. I applaud you.
TsWade2 wrote:Still I want to punish Bob Iger for this!

Shhhhhhhhh! Be vewy vewy quiet! I'm hunting Bob Iger! :twisted:

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I'd rather Bob Igar bust a cap on yo ass instead.
TsWade2 wrote:Well, I know that. But that proves that Bob Iger is a coward!
No it just prove you're batshit insane.
You the meanest person I've ever met. I can't help it. I said that because I'm upset. I know hand drawn is not dead. So if you please cut me some slack, I'll try to behave myself.
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