Elections thread

[disneyboy20022]

Disneyboy20022 and others who are under doctor's care for certain malady's, need to start asking question about "What happens in 2014 when Obamacare goes into effect." I have already asked that question many different times and received the same answer, and it is not a pretty picture that is printed.

Actually, It depends what doctor you ask, I asked my doctor the other day and he said it won't get much worse in the long run. Several of my current doctors said it won't get worse at all

However back in March I asked my doctor, who said it's horrible. However if I would have listened to that doctor, I would be in a casket right now. They took me off my GI Pills last year, and as a result, I was on my death bed in March. The Doctor would not refer me to GI, because they said my colonoscopy report from 13 years ago, was incorrect. So that doctor took me off my GI Pills, and I began losing weight eventually 10 pounds a week. Thankfully, a sleep doctor in the same practice referred me to GI, and I had a colonoscopy, and it showed I needed help and I got it. However the family practice doctor got offended, and excommunicated me, and the sleep doctor was punished, and can no longer do CPAP stuff. Also, I can still see my GI Doctor that is in another town.

The doctor I see now, is from a different company so to speak.

Four years from now we will see how we stand, if we can.

I don't want to think about 2016, I would rather enjoy today. That's the problem, now we are already talking about 4 years from now. It's stupid, and I hate that type of thinking. Let's love right now, and enjoy life. Also celebrate the election is over, and no more annoying adds.

Also, this was a big turning point of things

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Go to the 2 minute mark, it's quite entertaining

[Super Aurora]

I have huge respect for my governor now since that incident. He shows that republicans and democrats can work together and put aside their differences and come to agreements without any partisan bullshit. This is type of thing rational people been wanting and hoping for.

[disneyboy20022]

Oh this is hilariously entertaining.

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[a-net-fan]

I think junkie needs to be put on Suicide Watch, tbh.

But you should see the Republican meltdowns on my Facebook. I honestly hate my smalltown Southern background. They're starting prayer groups already.

^ Nothing to hate about that. No-matter who was elected, this country and our leaders all need our support and prayers.

Elections are too often seen as a sporting event, my team against your team. That mind-set is what has lead to the gridlock and our leaders inability to work together to do what is right thing for the country....and for all of us. While I am happy my candidate did win for president, you won't see me dancing around and claiming any victory. Why? Because one person, Democrat or Republican, can not fix the mess we are in on their own. No one person has that power in this country (thank God). When our president and our congress can assemble like grown-ups, compromise and get some work done, that is when I will do my victory dance!

[Disney's Divinity]

But you should see the Republican meltdowns on my Facebook. I honestly hate my smalltown Southern background. They're starting prayer groups already.

^ Nothing to hate about that. No-matter who was elected, this country and our leaders all need our support and prayers.

When they're starting prayer groups because they fear the literal end of the world because a Democrat became president...um, yes, I hate it.

[a-net-fan]

^ Nothing to hate about that. No-matter who was elected, this country and our leaders all need our support and prayers.

When they're starting prayer groups because they fear the literal end of the world because a Democrat became president...um, yes, I hate it.

Again, nothing to hate. We should ALL be concerned! The decisions that will be made by our leaders over the course of the next 4 years will no doubt shape all of our futures well into the future. We all, as Americans need to be prayerful that those at the helm lead our country in the right direction.

[Mayhem]

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

[Super Aurora]

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

Those delicious tears! I love em!

[carolinakid]

Those pictures are very sad. But it could just as easily be the other side who lost, so why gloat?

[Super Aurora]

Those pictures are very sad. But it could just as easily be the other side who lost, so why gloat?

If it would happen to the other side, then it would be very little. I tend to see moderates or liberal leaning side to tend to not have their emotions over come them in losses. They tend to be in control of themselves.

I mean these republicans see this as a "disaster" for fuck's sake.

Also we get shit like :



yeah how dare Chris Christie cared for his people over political agenda!

they also ignoring all these other factors too as stated from my friend on another forum:

I would like to add that, that attitude is a direct descendant of one of the right wings biggest problems this millennium. The Rejection of Fact.

They don't like global warming/climate change theory, so they ignore it and call it a conspiracy. In the meantime global weather patterns become more dangerous and inhospitable.

They don't like Colin Powell endorsing President Obama, so they say he did it because of their shared race. Nevermind that he gave possibly the most comprehensive and well stated reasons for his endorsement this side of William Jefferson Clinton.

They don't like the fact that they were dead wrong about Iraq so they call the president irresponsible for pulling all the troops out, nevermind that he was fulfilling Bush's deal and the Iraqi's didn't want American troops permanently stationed in their country (and neither did we in truth).

They don't like the fact that he said that he announced we'd be out of Afghanistan in 2014, nevermind the fact that the Taliban have people in the government and would've known anyway.

(For a not so small segment) They don't like the fact that he's black and the president because they believe the world must be run by white people. I don't like it either but it's true.

Donald Trump doesn't like the fact that he shat all over him by bumping the Apprentice to tell the world that Osama Bin Laden was dead as a door nail.

They say that the president is not a leader, ignoring the fact that they stated at the beginning of his term that they would never work with him or allow him to get anything done.

And most of all Republicans who used to be fiscal conservatives who would cut taxes if possible raise them if necessary and generally were good custodians of the government's purpose usefulness and good maintenance, have abandoned the one true truth...math. They ignore it because it violates their belief, this inane belief that our large country can operate with a tiny ineffectual and impotent Federal government and that freedom and rights won will be maintained by the states.

They don't like the fact that what they want to believe is true, is not the way the world works, not the way the country works, and no matter how angry they get, it's not gonna change. And that pisses them off.

Republicans, Conservatives, and what they represent have a place in American politics, government, and political discourse. But they as a political party, not the individual citizens (though they have a big part in it) can't take that place until they look at themselves and their belief systems and recognize that the reason that can't win the White House is because they're promoting the most psychotic aspects of their steadily shrinking base, trading true idealism, pragmatism, enthusiasm, and the capacity to compromise for fear based, racist, small minded, short-sighted rage.

or you have irrational republicans who go far as say they would move to Australia or Canada despite forgetting some key facts about those countries:

or
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/11/07 ... 86135.html
http://www.globalmontreal.com/now+trend ... story.html



The main problem many of these republicans fail to see is that they themselves brought themselves down to this. The republicans had move so far to the right that it practically would self-destruct. If republicans want to regain hold and win, they need to shift their party back to the middle or self-destruct and start all over again.

[Disney's Divinity]

When they're starting prayer groups because they fear the literal end of the world because a Democrat became president...um, yes, I hate it.

Again, nothing to hate.

I don't get this as a logical response to what I posted, so....

[Scamander]

As a Western European, I don't get the whole concept of praying. I don't want to be disrespectful, but it seems to be such a waste of time.

[a-net-fan]

Again, nothing to hate.

I don't get this as a logical response to what I posted, so....

From the quite above it looks like you only read the first four words. In short - There is nothing to hate about people coming together to pray for our leaders and our country and the course taken as we move forward.

[a-net-fan]

As a Western European, I don't get the whole concept of praying. I don't want to be disrespectful, but it seems to be such a waste of time.

No, it's not a wast of time at all. Prayer is a very important part of my daily life. It's good for the heart, soul, and obviously ones relationship with God.

[Sotiris]

There is nothing to hate about people coming together to pray for our leaders and our country and the course taken as we move forward.

There is when the prayer is the product of racism, sexism, homophobia etc. Those people are praying for the wrong reasons.

As a Western European, I don't get the whole concept of praying. I don't want to be disrespectful, but it seems to be such a waste of time.

This doesn't have to do with location but with religion. Although Christianity is the largest religion in Germany, there is a large percentage of the population who are non-religious/atheists.

No, it's not a waste of time at all. Prayer is a very important part of my daily life. It's good for the heart, soul, and obviously ones relationship with God.

You do realize that not everyone shares your religion or any religion at all. So although prayer is important to you, it may appear as silly or as a waste of time to others.

[a-net-fan]

There is nothing to hate about people coming together to pray for our leaders and our country and the course taken as we move forward.

There is when the prayer is the product of racism, sexism, homophobia etc. Those people are praying for the wrong reasons.

The manner in which a person goes to God in prayer is not for you or I to assume or judge. Only God knows our hearts and we stand alone, accountable to Him.

People of faith are as diverse as the people of this country. We all hold our own ideas, thoughts and opinions but in the end all share a concern for our country, a desire for God's continued blessing on our nation and wisdom for our leaders.

No, it's not a waste of time at all. Prayer is a very important part of my daily life. It's good for the heart, soul, and obviously ones relationship with God.

You do realize that not everyone shares your religion or any religion at all. So although prayer is important to you, it may appear as silly or as a waste of time to others.

Of course. We all have the God-given free will to acknowledge Him or reject Him. I simply responded to the comment as it applies to my own life.

[Scamander]

This doesn't have to do with location but with religion. Although Christianity is the largest religion in Germany, there is a large percentage of the population who are non-religious/atheists.

Well, religion does have to do with your socialisiation and therefore also with the location in which you live. The people in Western and North Europe (and I'm not talking only about Germany) are for the most part not religious in their everyday life, no matter if they are Christians or Atheists- there mostly isn't much of a difference. (I am a baptised Christ myself)

Last year I locked myself out of my flat, wearing only a pyjama and no shoes or socks, and on the corridor I met two wittnesses of Jehova, who were talking to my neighbour. They were really nice and helped me out of the situation, drove me to my friend, who had a second key for my apartment and so on.
I still have contact with them and sometimes we talk about religion and stuff and despite that we have two different point of views, I really enjoy those discussions, because we both respect the opinion of the other.

So I really respect if someone is religious, it's just that after all the knowledge mankind accumulated, I am (personally) not able to understand it.

Sorry for being OT.

[PatrickvD]

You do realize that not everyone shares your religion or any religion at all. So although prayer is important to you, it may appear as silly or as a waste of time to others.

Of course. We all have the God-given free will to acknowledge Him or reject Him. I simply responded to the comment as it applies to my own life.

Yeah, but both accepting and rejecting imply belief in his existence. Which is my issue with Christians or followers of any religions. They act as though non-believers 'reject' God, which is not the case. To atheists he does not exist, so there's nothing to reject.

But I digress, prayer is a part of religion and it's not 'news'. Its value can't be explained to atheists, so let's just leave it there.

[carolinakid]

As a Western European, I don't get the whole concept of praying. I don't want to be disrespectful, but it seems to be such a waste of time.

You don't see Muslims praying in your country? They obviously get the "concept" of praying. There are Western Europeans who pray in mosques every day!

[xxhplinkxx]

To atheists he does not exist, so there's nothing to reject.

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