Elections thread

[ajmrowland]

Must-watch video! It's hilarious (and so true)

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Now, that's much better than a normal attack ad.

[Super Aurora]

Must-watch video! It's hilarious (and so true)

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lol yeah i saw that earlier today and was gonna post it up.

[xxhplinkxx]

I don't want some 'dictator' telling me what I can and can't do.

Wow, I agree with you. I don't want that either. Which is why, as a gay man, I'm voting for... anyone but Romney.

[dvdjunkie]

Don't kid yourself. Gay or straight we are in deep trouble if we get Obama for another four years. I just don't care that most of you can be led around like you have a ring in your nose. If most of you would just read 'everything' that is out there and not just the Liberal Media, then I could understand what and where you are coming from. You chastise me because I only post things from the Conservative view, yet non of you can find any misgivings about what the Liberal lefties are doing. Quit looking at the world through 'rose-colored' glasses and look beyone tomorrow. The future is your for the taking without having this despot as our leader.

Here is my thought for the day, and please if you read it, read it carefully:

What I expect from Washington.
A positive encouraging message about how I can pursue happiness as I see fit, not as they define it
The opportunity to achieve the American dream is protected by the constitution and government, not offered by them.
All men are created equal, and each of us has the same potential for success as we define it, not that some are given special treatment because of how they look, who they love or how they vote.
That the money I make is mine and my families. If I want to give it to The poor, let me choose how much and to whom. not that they will pass it out to whomever applies and qualifies.
That the constitutional functions of government will be paid for by everyone who leads a productive life. Not that every pet project of every politician will be paid for by the next 3 or 4 generations.

If I fail, it's my fault. If I succeed, I thank God for the abilities, talents and opportunities that were given... not Government.

"I can do anything through Him who gives me strength."


And just another thought from the desk of Neal Boortz:
Any newspaper that endorses Obama for another term is being grossly irresponsible and betraying the trust of its readers and advertisers.

That is so true. The Liberal Media only prints what they want you to read, not what is really going on. It will be a sad day in November if Obama gets elected for another "sentence" of four years. When are you going to wake up and see what lies ahead of you - even if it is only a couple of years. I may be two to three times older than most of you, but I do believe that my grandkids deserve a real future free of a liberal dictator like Obama.

[DisneyAnimation88]

The Liberal Media only prints what they want you to read, not what is really going on.

Sounds like another Republican getting their excuses ready for if/when Romney loses in November . The Liberal Media didn't make up Romney openly admitting that he doesn't care about nearly half of the American people.

[Super Aurora]

Don't kid yourself. Gay or straight we are in deep trouble if we get Obama for another four years.

I like how you say this is this doesn't hold any importance at all. It is important because if you choose any of the crazy right GOP, or Romney in this case, the rights for the gays becomes restricted even more by people Romney or Rynn. They're letting religion(Mormon or Christianity, however you hold it) as well as the influence of the GOP to restrain a person civil rights. When you take away a person's rights, that tells you big time that this party or candidate means bad news. I have yet to hear any political standings on Obama's side where he trying to restrict the rights of a person base on someone's sex orientations, ethnicity, race, religion, etc.

If most of you would just read 'everything' that is out there and not just the Liberal Media, then I could understand what and where you are coming from.

Most of use know which media is the liberal media and which is the conservative media. You said over and over again to "look both side of the situation." "stop reading liberal media." and yet you seems to not take that advice yourself only except instead of liberal it's conservative. So far I only seen you post conservative blogs/opinion pages/ news media outlet, which is just as bad, if not worse than, as the liberal media.

No one here is denying Obama isn't the greatest president ever or that he's the best thing to go for, however when you stack him up against Romney who, in judging from his speeches and interviews, Obama is a much better choice even if you dislike him. In fact many conservative are beginning to find Romney a bad choice and doesn't seems to have his things straight(hence why people are starting to see him as a "flip-flopper"), He's a noob in foreign policy, he more times than not gave many indications of wanting to support the rich much more than the middle class or the poor, he's out of touch of any class outside of the rich like the recent quote of his at the private wealthy fundraiser saying he could not hope to win the votes of the 47 percent of Americans who, he said, do not pay federal income taxes, Doesn't seems to want to show the American people his income tax returns, something that is important when trying to choose a president. And so forth.

The problem with Obama is that he can't get the republicans to work with him and doesn't have the growing balls to shut them up and wake them up from their little child-like partisan quibble. The fact the GOP will do any thing to reject anything Obama propose, even one that is actually beneficial the the country, shows how torn apart the American country is.


But anyway, for me, I mostly follow BBC, which is probably the most unbias news media of them all.

You chastise me because I only post things from the Conservative view, yet non of you can find any misgivings about what the Liberal lefties are doing.

Oh I have but when you compare the two of the things the GOP have done or said in comparison to what the Dems have said or done, The dems misgivings isn't as monumental.

Quit looking at the world through 'rose-colored' glasses and look beyond tomorrow.

I think that's something you yourself need to take advice on. Except in your case you need to take off "your tin foil hats"

Here is my thought for the day, and please if you read it, read it carefully:

What I expect from Washington.
A positive encouraging message about how I can pursue happiness as I see fit, not as they define it

This is interesting you say that, considering the many of the things the GOP does IS trying to define it. The gay marriage issue is a good one.

The opportunity to achieve the American dream is protected by the constitution and government, not offered by them.

That is some all of us love to believe and go by but sad fact is, that's not the reality. But however, this isn't lies in the fault the government only, this also lies mostly in the fault of the business corporations who lobby the political parities(or rather puppeteer) which in turn then affect the outcome of the party's beliefs standings which then affect the people of America. The first thing that need to go is the lobbying.

All men are created equal, and each of us has the same potential for success as we define it, not that some are given special treatment because of how they look, who they love or how they vote.

And yet the GOP seems to been trying to restrict people's rights (gays and lately women in some states).

That the money I make is mine and my families. If I want to give it to The poor, let me choose how much and to whom. not that they will pass it out to whomever applies and qualifies.

One hand yes you're right that money is yours and your families, however, you also live in this country and also as fellow American should contribute in helping America as a whole as well. We live by individual rights but we also live by united nation and sometimes you have give and take in order to help the country. If what you find the government doing isn't good, then come up with solutions or figure out something that should be done in the situation and send message about it. (in your example you made, the welfare.) Whining and bawwwwing isn't doing anything.

That the constitutional functions of government will be paid for by everyone who leads a productive life. Not that every pet project of every politician will be paid for by the next 3 or 4 generations.

This is something needs to be done but don't think this is a liberal/dems thing. It's also a GOP thing and the degree they take to is much much worse. As I said eariler first thing need to be done is get rid of lobbying and corporation businesses interfering/controlling political stance for their own selfish greed.

That is so true. The Liberal Media only prints what they want you to read, not what is really going on.

So does the conservative media, especially FOX. I dunno how you could even take FOX seriously.

I may be two to three times older than most of you,

I like how you always bring this up in your posts. It's as if you're implying that being older means you know better and more than any of us and thus hold more truth and validations than any of us.

but I do believe that my grandkids deserve a real future free of a liberal dictator like Obama.

I think you need to look up definition of dictator again. Because last time I check Obama not a dictator.

[PatrickvD]

The Liberal Media only prints what they want you to read, not what is really going on.

And yet the FOX news viewers have come out in every single poll as the most consistently misinformed viewers in the United States.

So Pott, kettle, you know the deal.

[dvdjunkie]

Here's a great comparison:

One thing separates Obama from Hitler - Hitler got the Olympic games.

Read the first three chapters of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and you will agree.

[DisneyAnimation88]

One thing separates Obama from Hitler - Hitler got the Olympic games.

You have officially gone wayyyyyyyyyyy off the deep end now. I really can't believe an intelligent human being could think this, let alone say it in a public forum such as this one. If there is anyone who actually saw any sense or reason in the hateful bile you spew and reproduce from elsewhere on the internet, you will have lost them with such a purposely inflammatory and completely idiotic comment as this. You are not contributing to any sensible political debate any longer, you are partaking in a ruthless character assassination in a misguided attempt to influence the choice of others regarding the election; if you really think you're educating anyone, you are sadly and extremely mistaken. I could care less who you vote for but your mindless crusade to influence others won't work, those people will sensibly make up their own minds over who to vote for in November,be that Obama or Romney, for the right reasons, not because their minds have been poisoned by archaic, purposely provocative and wholly nonsensical rambling such as this breathtakingly idiotic comment.

[ajmrowland]

^So Obama intends to commit genocide on a minority?

[Disney's Divinity]

Fearmongering is Republicans’ greatest tactic. Throw a few buzzwords like Hitler, Nazi, socialism, dictator, tree-hugger, atheist, Muslim, etc. and they can manipulate the herd that is America into following their word like a religion. I’m sure they miss the days when the N word would’ve been fair game. Thankfully, the recent generations don’t seem as willing to be influenced by that nonsense anymore.

[ajmrowland]

^thanks for reminding me of that one little N-head scandal.

[Sotiris]

Throw a few buzzwords like Hitler, Nazi, socialism, dictator, tree-hugger, atheist, Muslim, etc. and they can manipulate the herd that is America into following their word like a religion.

Indeed. The Republican rhetoric is so illogical and contradictory that borders on sociopathy.

[Super Aurora]

Here's a great comparison:

One thing separates Obama from Hitler - Hitler got the Olympic games.

Read the first three chapters of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and you will agree.

ah godwin's law.

When knowing you are losing an argument retort to nothing but compare something to nazis.

Stay classy old man, stay classy.

Throw a few buzzwords like Hitler, Nazi, socialism, dictator, tree-hugger, atheist, Muslim, etc. and they can manipulate the herd that is America into following their word like a religion.

Indeed. The Republican rhetoric is so illogical and contradictory that borders on sociopathy.

Technically republicans aren't even republicans now but are simply reactionaries. Everything in political spectrum has move right. The democrats are now conservative/conservative moderate, while the right has move so far down it becomes to what you describe. Which is what many call, "reactionaries". They spew rhetoric that invoke reactions and attention to draw people in for them.

[dvdjunkie]

$1.84


The price of regular gas at the pumps in 2008. Where are we today? In many cities it over the $4 a gallon mark and analysts are predicting that it may go as high as $5. Obama refuses to step in and stop the speculators on Wall Street from raising the price of a barrel of oil.

[Scamander]

Lol, it's $8,18 in Germany- and you know what? It's not high enough. The USA is the developed nation with the worst eco-balance of all. You think of the future of your grandchildren? All I see is how you think of your money. And the funniest part is, that you blame Obama for all what's going wrong in your country, though most of it is the result of the US banking crisis of 2007.

The whole world is still struggling because of that and it is the result of a broken capitalistic system, which need to get fixed.

[Super Aurora]

$1.84


The price of regular gas at the pumps in 2008. Where are we today? In many cities it over the $4 a gallon mark and analysts are predicting that it may go as high as $5. Obama refuses to step in and stop the speculators on Wall Street from raising the price of a barrel of oil.

That's completely false. It has always been around the range between $2-$3.84 since 2006. I know this considering that living in upper NJ/NYC area, which also the most heaviest traffic area in the nation, it been like that since at gas stations.

This isn't the fault of Obama but rather the greedy oil corporates. Scamander is also correct too. Part of the reason for failed economy was due to banking as well as the various bank bailouts as well as the housing loans scandal. Banks and corporations are taking advantage of the loop holes in the system for their own gain leaving the rest to suffer the consequence.

[Disney's Divinity]

I’ve heard the price of gas is higher in areas where there is the possibility for a swing vote in the election. Personally, if I were voting based on gas prices--again, a Republican would be the last person I would vote for. Despite the fact that oil companies own politicians on both sides of the aisle, we've seen from Bush that the "right" would rather there be no regulation at all. Anyone who would expect Romney (or any other Republican nominee) to do something about it is deluding themselves.

[dvdjunkie]

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/ ... try-future

[bradhig]

People don't vote Democrat or Republican. There are other choices on the ballet. The US electoral system is monopolized by them. The two parties need to be dissolved.