Tangled (& Tangled Ever After) Discussion: Part VII

[qindarka]

I was going to say, out of all animation houses, Disney / Pixar produces the fewest sequels out of anyone!

Wouldn't say that about Pixar anymore. They are making about as many sequels as Dreamworks, which are often critisized for this)

Let's see the percentage of films that are sequels:
Pixar- 13 films . 3 sequels (Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, Cars 2) - 23.07%
Dreamworks - 21 films. 6 sequels. (Shrek 2, Shrek the Third, Shrek Forever After, Madagascar 2, Madagascar 3, Kung Fu Panda 2) - 28.57%

Plus Pixar has Monsters University (ok, it's a prequel) and Finding Nemo 2 in the pipeline while Dreamworks has more original properties before HTTYD2 and KFP3.

Might as well have a look at other Western animation studios as well:
Aardman - 5 films. 0 sequels. 0%. None planned either though they do have some other Wallace and Gromit stuff released both before and after Wererabbit.

Blue Sky - 7 films. 3 sequels (Ice Age 2, Ice Age 3, Ice Age 4)- 42.86%. Plus Rio 2 is in production.

Sony- 3 films. 0 sequels. 0% though Cloudy 2 is in production.

Illumination - 3 films. 0 sequels. 0% though Despicable Me 2 is in production.

Looks like Blue Sky are especially bad at this with more than half their films being in the Ice Age franchise. Sony and Illumination have too few films for any trends to be identified. I believe Aardman can be trusted not to make sequels, though.

Also, percentage for WDAS: 51 films. 1 sequel (The Rescuers Down Under) - 1.96%. Granted, most of their films are adaptations which are less conducive towards sequels

[Sotiris]

Do you want to see how Tangled would have looked liked hand-drawn?

Here are a couple of pencil tests by Disney character designer Jin Kim.

The one is of Rapunzel and the other is of an earlier version of Mother Gothel.

What do you think?

[disneyboy20022]

Do you want to see how Tangled would have looked liked hand-drawn?

Here are a couple of pencil tests by Disney character designer Jin Kim.

The one is of Rapunzel and the other is of an earlier version of Mother Gothel.

What do you think?

I really liked Gothel.

[Jules]

I wish they were inbetweened. The drawings look very strong.

[Super Aurora]

Rapunzel seems like Ariel 2.0 especially on the facial expressions.

[PatrickvD]

Yeah, her resemblance to Ariel is just too much. Paint her hair red and you're done.

I, personally, am 100% happy with the CGI final result. But these tests are very interesting. Mother Gothel doesn't really do it for me in this design though. She looks like Jane/Jim Hawkin's mom. A bland, standard design.

[Sky Syndrome]

an earlier version of Mother Gothel.

^^^Georgette the poodle in human form doing a peasant model shoot.

[Atlantica]

Those tests were interesting, and awesome to see! Thank you very much for posting!

Just as a side note; Tangled is still going strong in the Disney Store in the UK. Loads and loads of stock, with lots of children coming up and having a look. It still has its own section as well, which is cool. Tangled Ever After is obviously the main selling point, with the wedding everywhere.
Upsetting she has long hair on some of the wedding dolls though.

[Patrick]

Rapunzel seems like Ariel 2.0 especially on the facial expressions.

The scene that Glen animated of Jim Hawkins' mother also shared a lot of similarities with Ariel.

[Tangled]

I know that a bunch of you were probably upset by the Blu-Ray and how there was no audio commentary on it. Well, the the head of the Animation Podcast decided to gather 23 of the animators from Tangled to rewatch the movie and do an "unofficial" commentary.

http://animationpodcast.com/archives/20 ... ommentary/

They mostly talk about animation and behind the scenes info, but they are interesting and I learned new stuff from it, particularly about animation and how a scene comes together. Besides, it's probably going to be the closest thing to an official commentary we're ever going to get in the near future anyway.

[Sotiris]

I know that a bunch of you were probably upset by the Blu-Ray and how there was no audio commentary on it. Well, the the head of the Animation Podcast decided to gather 23 of the animators from Tangled to rewatch the movie and do an "unofficial" commentary.

Interesting. Thanks for letting us know.

[Disney Duster]

The face of Mother Gothel in those hand-drawn tests is more beautiful and more a reason for her to want to stay young forever. Also in these, as I have seen before, Rapunzel's puff sleeves on her dress are better, as well as more unique, they feel more like her own original design and just look better.

[disneyprincess11]

Thanks for the post! The pencil tests are gorgeous! And Natalie Portmen was considered as Rapunzel? Not bad!

[TangledInDreams]

Hello everyone!

I was around back when Tangled wasn't released and I made some wallpapers for it

I know this thread is probably dead but I wanted to tell you all in case you're still looking here that we have a very nice collection of top quality wallpapers which you can't find anywhere else:
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So if you're still into Tangled please stop by

Thank you all!

[Kyle]

Here are a couple of pencil tests by Disney character designer Jin Kim.

The one is of Rapunzel and the other is of an earlier version of Mother Gothel.

Older post but just now seeing it. The Rapunzel one no longer works, anyone know where else to see it?

[Sotiris]

The Rapunzel one no longer works, anyone know where else to see it?

Here you go.

[Jay]

The face of Mother Gothel in those hand-drawn tests is more beautiful and more a reason for her to want to stay young forever. .

I think her face looks exactly the same. Just her hair is different.

[Kyle]

I just had an epiphany of sorts.

I don't know if you guys remember, but years ago, probably in the first rapunzel thread here I mentioned someone who had told me that early on in developing the style for Rapunzel they demoed some animation tests that were described as having a mixed media look to it. It had pencil outlines, charcoal shading, etc. Glen wanted to do the movie this way but was told it was going to be too costly and take too long. These tests were not shown to the general public. This person was disappointed that they didn't up going with that style for the final look. Does this technique sound familiar to anyone? Paperman!

For years Ive been wondering what those tests must have looked like. I was hoping it would end up on the Tangled blu ray but it didn't. But It just dawned on me that what this guy saw must have been the start of what would eventually be seen in Paperman. Disney must have started experimenting with this technique for (the then titled) Rapunzel. The fact that glen helped design these those characters makes even more sense now. How awesome would it have been to have the movie done this way?

Here you go.

Thanks!

[Atlantica]

That was cool ... wonder who was Rapunzel's voice?

Also, was wondering why they have sanctioned Finding Nemo 2, when there would surely be more demand for Tangled 2 ?

[RodryCroft]

Hello everyone!

I was around back when Tangled wasn't released and I made some wallpapers for it

I know this thread is probably dead but I wanted to tell you all in case you're still looking here that we have a very nice collection of top quality wallpapers which you can't find anywhere else:
http://www.bestmoviewalls.com/directory ... RqqyWdVKJU



Uploaded with ImageShack.us



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So if you're still into Tangled please stop by

Thank you all!

Hi!! I'd like to have those!! But it says I need to register and pay to get the higher resolution images, anyone have them??