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Disney Duster wrote:Amy...did you not see what I put in the thread about her death?
No...no I hadn't... I don't have as much time anymore, so there are certain threads that I kind of skip over...


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It's still neat, though, and something that I had never noticed before...
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Disney Duster wrote::D !

It's almost like a dream come true people are saying how much they like Cinderella's character now and say she has smarts and personality. I would love to know the reasons people felt she is smart, unless they can't explain any specific examples, it is just how she acts and comes across, you can just tell. Probably similar to how people think Belle is smart.

By the way, Cinderella's prince was passive, and since some people think Cinderella was passive, they are a good match in that way. See, the man is equal to or actually even less than the woman in this film. But Cinderella and the Prince are both children who are still ruled by their parents (stepmother, king) forced to do things they don't want to (chores, ball).

Super Aurora, how long had it been since you watched the movie? I'm just wondering if some of the reason people don't think much of Cinderella is because they haven't seen it recently so they don't pick up on the little things in it that make it, and the character, so good. And I hope you didn't just watch it and like her just for me or because of my constant Cinderella talk, lol.

Another person at another place said they found Cinderella intuitive. And another reviewer said she is like Belle, too. They even have similar French tales, settings, time periods, and looks.

I'm glad people find her smart, even though there are things people have said make her not. Like believing her family would be nice to her, not knowing the Prince was the Prince, and giving away that she was at the ball to be locked up.

To this, however, I point out that in the original Beauty and the Beast, Belle was so kind and loving that she fell for her wicked sister's trickery when they pretended to be nice to her so she wouldn't go back to the Beast where she was getting such good treatment. There were lots of guys who were dressed up similarly to the Prince at the ball, and she didn't see him getting bowed to before he danced with her. And when Cinderella was locked up, she was in a dream state over a guy who just announced he wanted to marry her and she could escape her life. She wasn't aware of or cared at all what was going on around her, and didn't think they would be that evil. She believed people were good deep down.

Cinderella just acts and comes off as smart to me, as well as showing she's knows what's up and how to do things/get what she wants at times, and maybe this is the inexplainable reason why people find Belle smart, because of the way she acts, she just comes off that way. And sees more in the Beast. And wants more in life than a simple village. And reads. But Cinderella wanted more sophisticated things, too.

Ilene Woods did say, pap, that she thought Cinderella wanted first to go to the ball, and then wanted the Prince, and the film seems to show this.

But then it's very weird that Walt said when Prince Charming didn't com along for Cinderella, she went to the ball and got him!

The only sense I can make of it is that Cinderella's dream was pretty much just to be happy or find any love, so she was kind to her stepsisters hoping they would be kind to her, and when they weren't, the prince and glass slipper was what she used next to be happy.
<b>I love Cinderella! It might just be my favorite Disney film out of all of them & one of my favorite films in general. That movie is just so heartwarming. Who hasn't felt a little abused before? You can relate with Cinderella. If you happen to talk to rats & birds you'd have a lot in common with Cinderella!

I've always loved this film. I remember watching it whenever I visited my grandma's house. It's always been one of those movies that were so amazing but I never had an opportunity to buy it. I didn't pay attention to the Platinum collection either. I thought I could go to Target & get it any old time! I didn't even know it was out in 2005. I started collecting in fall 2010 starting with one of my other favorites Alice in Wonderland! Then I was like "oh hello-good-bye!?" Cinderella is in a mickey mouse-shaped vault!!! haha I finally got Cinderella in March 2011. I bought a used copy of the Collector's Dvd Gift Set for 29 bucks at this really cool dvd store in Sherman Oaks, CA. It's like brand new too!

Cinderella is a wonderful character because she is just a beautiful person. I adore her voice! She just comes off with such sincerity. She's the girl you see & you are dying to become her friend. She is so sweet & kind like when she says "poor Lucifer" when he fell into the fountain even though he treats her like shyt & loves when she gets in trouble. She is funny and witty (like when she makes the face when she's like "should i interrupt the 'music lessons'). She's very pretty too! Not only do I love Cinderella but I also love every character in the movie. The King, the mice, Lucifer, Drizella, Anastasia, & even lady Tremaine are humourous & entertaining!

Her story is one that a lot of people can relate too! My mom went from rags to riches in a sense! Her parents were mean to her & made her clean & told her stuff like why bother with school, you wont amount to much. My mom told them she'd make way more money than they ever would & now she did just that! I think it's not only her but her story & the theme that comes along with it that makes it so great. I like to treat others nicely because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings or ruin their day. Things like that make this movie one for the History books!!
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I like Cinderella - the comedy with the mice and cat is well done, and Cinders herself isn't as saccharine as Snow White or Wendy Darling. The prince himself is a bit cardboard but as he really doesn't have a role other than freeing our heroine from her servitude it hardly matters. Disney princesses of course only live to be married ...
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A long time ago…in a far away land, depending where you live, I was going to write a big, gigantic, 134 page review of Cinderella. But you know what, in all that I typed, really only some of it was actually probably any good or right, so I’m going to do a very trimmed down kind of review where I just point out some things about my favorite movie. I used to write more eloquently and complexly, too, but these days I’m not the same and I just want to get this over with, so it won’t sound like a school paper, but it doesn’t need to.

First of all, this film is certainly a classic, a masterpiece. But a flawed one. It doesn’t feel completely tight in story or like the focus is always where it should be. It deviates to the mice too much. But the mice are only shown too much in the beginning (and a little of the middle), and along with those early scenes, not many interesting or beautiful backgrounds are shown. This boredom could lend itself to what the movie is trying to convey quite well, that Cinderella needs to escape this boredom and live a life as better as the movie gets past the too-long early mice scenes.

Also I admit Cinderella doesn’t have the emotional bang of Disney films like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Pinocchio, Bambi, or Beauty and the Beast. And those feelings come from the films getting very sad before they get happy. But Cinderella’s scene of her dress getting ripped apart, and of her presenting the other slipper, give such sad pathos and happy satisfaction, and lots of drama, that it is still a master of emotion alongside the likes of Snow White or Beauty and the Beast. It is one of the Disney’s crown jewels, if not the biggest, brightest jewel. And which one is the biggest jewel? Since all the jewels have their own special brilliance, Cinderella could still contend to be that one.

The animation and designs feel so perfect, choosing what seems to me to be the best elements of costume and architecture from original author Charles Perrault’s late 1600’s time to the Brothers Grimm’s 1800’s decade. The firm, imperial, gold trimmed jackets of the men, and the long, full, flowing gowns of the women, amidst the intricate rococo detail. The drawings could be a little more straight, detailed, and perfected like Snow White’s or Sleeping Beauty’s, but it’s a small complaint for what is an excellent style and what are indeed beautiful images. The animation itself is of course top notch, right down to the perfect way the sparkling magic lights up the picture.

The score is fantastic. Each moment has an underscore that enhances the picture, from the idyllic sounds of the opening introducing us to the enchanting story, to the dramatic whiz bang of a triumphant ending.

The characters are magnificent, every one of them being interesting or likable or rooted for. The heroine herself is, to me, a perfect embodiment of warmth, love, and kindness, with just a bit of enough authority and activeness to make her not completely passive. She’s a character with oomph. Her voice is soft and soothing but also has some edge to it. Her voice is small, like Cinderella is known for, but with the perfect amount of power in it. And in many ways during Cinderella’s sad servant situation she is actually already like a princess, she just rules over and is served by animals instead of people. There’s even a moment where Cinderella stares back at the stepmother after she silences her, showing Cinderella’s bite but how she chooses to let it go as long as she has to live with her.

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The mice are cute and endearing as well as very brave and loyal. Lady Tremaine is a perfect evil stepmother whose chilling realism helps the film immensely. The stepsisters manage to be both comical and unsettlingly evil, while the same could be said of Lucifer. The King makes a hilarious contribution and the Duke makes a great receiver of his humorous tantrums. And the Fairy Godmother is the most benign, loving, enchanting grandmother figure.

Is their any sexism inherent in the movie? Will the movie harm anyone? Does it say Cinderella stayed with her stepfamily till a man rescued her because she was passive and all girls should be? Not really. First of all, Cinderella in the time the film takes place in wouldn’t have been able to own property and live on her own if she ran away from her stepfamily, so staying with them till something she could use to have a better life came along could very well have been her best and smartest option. When Cinderella is talking to Bruno about losing his “nice warm bed” if he doesn’t obey the stepfamily’s orders, I think Cinderella is subtly talking about what she will lose if she doesn’t do so as well.

And Cinderella being the receiver of good fortune because she was kind and believed in her dreams is actually saying that because of what Cinderella did, she got what made her happy. She made it happen, she took care of herself, even if it was by merely believing. The message can only be viewed as bad because in real life our dreams don’t seem to come true by just believing or being good, and also that a lot of men have to do with helping Cinderella get her salvation.

But Cinderella also has a physical hand in her salvation, by helping others and being helped by them back. In fact, some of the things Cinderella does are exactly what others do for her that makes her dreams come true. She took care of mice and birds and sewed clothes for them, so the mice and birds sewed a dress for her. She freed mice from cages and cats, so the mice freed her from the locked attic. This teaches not just to wait around and be good to make your dreams come true, but to help other people so they will help you in return. It’s a good, important message this movie sends.

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The only sexism this film really contains is that one line “Leave the sewing to the women” while the boy mice go hunting and gathering material, which could only be construed as sexist in that way if you don’t consider that the girl mice are just telling the boy mice that they would rather do the sewing than go find dress material.

I also think Cinderella’s message about believing says that believing is just the first step, that believing is synonymous with working toward your dream, and that you must do that also in order to achieve your dreams. Cinderella did work for her dream to come true. She pushed her stepmother to admit she could go to the ball, and then worked very hard to try and meet her demands to go to with her stepfamily to the ball, and when she needed to get out of the attic to try on the slipper, she thought of using Bruno to scare away Lucifer to get the mice to let her out. None of that was passive. I think Walt Disney felt that this film and its message were important and real because he himself had dreams that seemed impossible, but by firstly believing in them, and getting people to help him, just like mice or a fairy godmother, his dreams came true.

There’s two theories I have formed on this film. The first one concerns that people think Cinderella and the Prince only fell “in love” because of how attracted they were to each other’s appearance. But my theory is that Cinderella and the Prince don’t really see each other well enough to base their love on just looks. When the Prince first sees Cinderella, she’s very far away from him and turned around. Then, when she turns toward him, it’s when they’re in the dark. Then the lights are turned down or off and they dance in the dark until midnight. This could show not just how their love is not based on just attraction, but also why the Prince needs to use the slipper to find Cinderella, since he couldn’t tell exactly what she looked like in the dark!

And just so you know, when the Prince falls in love with Cinderella, it is, as the Duke says, because when he sees her she seems to be "the girl of his dreams" and he somehow knows she's "predestined" to be his bride. And Cinderella says the prince was handsome but also that even the prince himself couldn't be "more"...something. So even the film says they're not in love just because they're hot. :wink:

The other theory I have is that Cinderella may have left her slipper on purpose to get the prince, and merely acted like she lost the slipper accidentally or that she didn’t know she was with the prince. When she says she hasn’t met the prince, maybe she knows he’s the prince but she’s just saying that to get away from him before the spell changed her. When she leaves the palace, she says “Goodbye” to the Duke, maybe to get his attention since maybe she knew that is who would bring her slipper. Then after losing her slipper she goes back for it, facing the Duke and waving her hands for a moment before running off again. Then in the coach she undoes her hair, maybe to show how she would look when she gets the slipper presented to her, which she combs her hair to look like later. And maybe she only drops the tray and lets it crash on the floor because she heard the prince was following her plan to use her slipper, and she was so surpriseed and happy from knowing that. Do I have much faith in this theory? No. But the original fairy tale may have intended her to drop her slipper on purpose, or not, I don’t know French to be sure, but if she did, maybe the filmmakers knew that and kept it in their film kind of secretly.

If not, it still is fascinating to me that Cinderella does appear to undo her hair to look like her old self again while riding in the carriage. I don't know if she did it to hurry up the transformation or, what is more likely, that she hoped by undoing her hair they wouldn't recognize her, which isn't a brilliant idea they would buy but it's her being active in a way that I'm pleasantly surprised by.

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I still wonder if Cinderella left her slipper on purpose when analyzing her facial expression when the stepmother tells her to get her stepsisters out of bed “and hurry.” When the stepmother tells her that, Cinderella’s eyes grow wide like she’s realizing much more than something could be up. It indicates to me maybe she left her slipper on purpose and her stepmother getting excited and it being important her stepsisters hear all have to do with her plan to get the prince to find her with her shoe. Her escape plan. But that’s only one moment that gives me any sort of evidence that makes me still wonder.

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So there you have it. Not so much a review but me pointing out some things about my favorite film of all time, Disney’s classic masterpiece, Cinderella.
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didi-5 wrote:Disney princesses of course only live to be married ...
I've thought about Cinderella leaving one prison and moving into another. While growing up with her stepfamily, she didn't have time and permission to experience lots of things other girls/teenagers did. As a princess, she has a lot more freetime but she has a great deal of responsibility (she's expected to produce and raise an heir and carry out other duties of her status). Also she can't do everything female commoners enjoy doing that she missed out on while she was with the stepfamily because one of her responsibilities is chosing her actions wisely in the public's eye so she won't shame the royal family.
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Disney Duster wrote:But Cinderella also has a physical hand in her salvation, by helping others and being helped by them back. In fact, some of the things Cinderella does are exactly what others do for her that makes her dreams come true. She took care of mice and birds and sewed clothes for them, so the mice and birds sewed a dress for her. She freed mice from cages and cats, so the mice freed her from the locked attic.
Interesting. Even in the scene in which we meet the Stepmother, the lined shadows give the feeling that Cinderella herself is trapped in a cage in which she can't escape.
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Sky Syndrome wrote:
didi-5 wrote:Disney princesses of course only live to be married ...
I've thought about Cinderella leaving one prison and moving into another. While growing up with her stepfamily, she didn't have time and permission to experience lots of things other girls/teenagers did. As a princess, she has a lot more freetime but she has a great deal of responsibility (she's expected to produce and raise an heir and carry out other duties of her status). Also she can't do everything female commoners enjoy doing that she missed out on while she was with the stepfamily because one of her responsibilities is chosing her actions wisely in the public's eye so she won't shame the royal family.
That's an unique way of seeing things, but I seriously wouldn't see it that way. Yeah, she may have responsibilities as a princess (as the... ahem... "follow up" showed us), but she is in an environment where she is truly loved and appreciated. She gained her freedom when she was given the opportunity to become someone else. Also, Cinderella could have also said no if she felt her new life of royalty was going to be a prison. In addition, Cinderella's disposition is so sweet and genuine that she would do those things, not because it is her duty, but because she loves making people happy.

I point to... the follow up, for examples. All kidding aside, Cinderella II was bad, but it did show that Cinderella was more than happy to do her part as long as she was given the opportunity to do so. And considering both the prince and the king love her to pieces it's not like it will be completely awful.

Finally... what it is with this notion of marriage being this sort of prison for people? OK, I do see why in some cases. But nowadays, marriage is a choice. People decide whether they want to stay single (like me), want to be in a relationship but not marry, be in a relationship them marry, marry and start a family, or be happily married without children. It's a choice. So again, Cinderella had the choice to go back.
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Also, that was a great review, Duster!

But what fascinated me the most about it is how you explained that by helping others in need, she was helping herself. And how by always believing, she was able to make a dream come true while working hard on her own life. I think this is talking about the basics of karma and the law of attraction.

Karma believes that when you do good, you receive good in return, and when you do bad, you get bad in return. The law of attraction (which is what the infamous "The Secret" is all about) says that if you believe in something very strongly and you visualize it in your mind, it is going to come true, even if it takes a while.

Cinderella believed in the dream of a better life, in the chance of going to the ball, and since she was so sweet and kind to her friends, she was able to escape her old life and into a new life. There is a lot of symbolism involved in the tale, like how her mother's dress has many phases...

The first phase is the memory of a lost mother. This dress is likely the only thing Cinderella has from her mother, so it is a valued treasure.

The second phase is the new and improved dress, a symbol of how her kindness to her friends lead her to obtaining the best of them. She dressed and fed them, and thus she received a new dress in return.

The third phase is the torn dress, which represent a dream crushed and destroyed by the anger, bitterness and ignorance of others. It is at this point where her faith is challenged and tested. She believed for so long that when the opportunity arose to live a dream, it is crushed.

The fourth and final phase is the iconic ball gown. The dress represents faith restored and rewarded. After believing for so long, the universe was finally kind to her and she received a visit from the fairy godmother, who not only gave her a dress, she gave her a very beautiful dress along with a carriage and horses. This represents how our dreams when they do come true they turn out to be much better than what we hoped for.

I loved the fact that when the movie starts, she frees Gus from the mouse trap, and in ends with the mice freeing Cinderella from her room. It is a very subtle metaphor about how kindness inspires kindness. Again, this is one of the reasons I love Cinderella so much as a classic fairy tale movie: it speaks so much about many of the things I believe in in a subtle manner. Perhaps it is very subtle to the point where people get different ideas about it, but I continue to love and believe in the movie.

It's no wonder the very first Disney Princess I met was Cinderella ;)
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Pap64, would a fifth phase be perhaps her wedding dress, symbolizing a new life as a princess and future queen?

Nice review, Duster! I've been wondering for YEARS (I think since 2005) when you would actually post your review!

I don't think Cinderella dropped her slipper on purpose. But, I have never noticed her undo her hair before! That's just really interesting! I've just always thought it undid itself.

Even though it is based on the French version, I do love how the movie pays homage to both the French story and the German story. I like to think that Cinderella's kingdom is a tiny province in between France and Germany, but more France than Germany, in the 1800s with late 1600s to early 1700s architecture. I always wish that the Grand Duke would have called out to Cinderella "Fraulein" instead of "Senorita."
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That was a wonderful article, Duster! Your eye for fine detail helped me appreciate the film more in terms of animation acting.

You've thought of some pretty interesting theories. I look forward to any other writing of yours of a similar nature.
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I always interpreted it as Cinderella, caught by surprise, was trying to hold her hair up briefly in a natural reaction as it was falling down into her pre-spell "do". I could be wrong, though....
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Sky Syndrome, do you then think all Disney princesses live in a prison?

Disney's Divinity, yea, I once pointed out that someone else (a different place than here) said that Cinderella looked like the mice trapped in the cage in that scene.

Pap, thank you. I love what you said. I agree with your explanation that she isn't in a prison, and the rest of what you said. Interesting how one dress goes through four different phases!

tsom, thanks. I think pap was explaining how one dress goes through many changes as opposed to her individual dresses. I think "Fraulein" would be a fitting think for him to shout but sometimes I wonder if Cinderella has Spanish influence to, I don't know I think it's a fantasy country! With French and German influences, like as if it was real, but still made up. And we also disagree on where what time the film's set, I like to think the time is late 1600's with the clothing just inspired by 1800's ones.

Jules, thank you very much!

carolinakid, you may be right, and I think that makes the most sense, too.
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Actually... I grew up watching Cinderella in spanish (and I mean the GREAT dub made back in 1950, approved by Walt himself, not the crappy one made post-2000), and I always find it odd that at times, the Duke says phrases in both french AND italian!!

I never quite new why...
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^well, i havent heard that dub myself, but it is in his character to sometimes repeat in foriegn languages, pretty much like public places and events today.
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tsom wrote:Pap64, would a fifth phase be perhaps her wedding dress, symbolizing a new life as a princess and future queen?
Personally, I don't include the wedding dress as a phase since it's a different dress altogether. I count the pink dress as the one with the phases because it is the dress that literally sees the most transformations in the film, and the ones connected to Cinderella's own state of being.

Though if we count what all the dresses Cinderella represents in the dress, here is how I would present them:

- Conderella's rags/workclothes: The dress consists of a dark brown with light blue sleeves. In fear of sounding like I am over analyzing, , I think the light blue sleeves represent an element of sadness in Cinderella's life shrouded by the dark emotions of the step family. But in another way, the dress represents humility and grace, even in the darkest of moments,l the ability to remain hopeful despite the world being different from one's beliefs. It is the dress we see Cinderella wear the most.

- The dress Cinderella's mother wore: This represents perhaps the only memory Cinderella has of her mother, a treasure that Cinderella cherishes, and the opportunity to experience a dream made real.

- The pink dress her friends made: This dress represents an old memory turned into a beautiful reality thanks to the kindness of her friends. The dress is what allows Cinderella to make a dream come true, and thanks to her love and sympathy towards her friends, they repaid her with a beautiful present.

- The pink dress destroyed: This dress is a visual symbol of crushed and broken dreams, destroyed by the anger, bitterness and spite of others. In life we often encounter people that are so bitter and so angry with themselves and life that they want to crush other people's faith in the process. So when the stepsisters destroy the dress, they are destroying the only memory Cinderella has of her mother, a beautiful present from dear friends AND her only way to go to the ball. It's why the scene is so visually crushing and is the cruelest thing you will see in the movie.

- The beautiful ballgown: The dress was born out of the destroyed dress. To me, this has always represented a dream reborn, faith restored and rewarded. It talks about how in life, when we make a dream come true it is always better than we imagined. Cinderella wanted to go to the ball with her family and wear her pink dress (which is cute but somewhat childish). Instead, she got to go to the ball with a personal escort AND wearing what is easily the best and most magical dress there is at the ball. So with her faith rewarded, she can FINALLY go to the ball.

- The wedding gown: It is a brand new beginning for Cinderella, a chance to live a better dream and enjoy a better life outside her cruel home.

Also, there is something I want to mention about the ball. Many people that criticize this version of the Cinderella story think that her dream of just going to a ball is shallow, especially in comparison to the dreams of other princesses, like Belle's desire to find something bigger in life, Ariel's dream of living on land and even Merida's dream to be free from her country's traditions. Yet, look closely at the dream...

Cinderella didn't want to go to the ball just because it was a pretty dance and she gets to wear a pretty dress. Cinderella likely wanted to go to the ball because she wanted to experience a life outside her home, a life she was privileged to learn about but circumstances stripped her from enjoying that life. It is to fulfill a personal need to actually see something you have learned about for so long. Cinderella sees the castle every day through her window, but she yearns to actually see it and live it for at least a day.

In other words, Cinderella's dream of going to the ball represents a dream we all have that doesn't make sense in the eyes of others, but make sense to use on a deep, personal level. I say that because my own dream was to visit Walt Disney World. Yeah, so some it is silly since it's just a theme park. But to me, much like Cinderella, I had grown to learn so much about it that I didn't want to let it remain a dream in my head and just see pictures and video of it, I wanted to live it through my own eyes. And once I did, it was a great feeling of accomplishment. So I am sure that for Cinderella, being at the ball was a great accomplishment. The fact that she fell in love and got married was just a nice bonus.
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I agree with all that you said again pap! Except I think Cinderella's blue sleeves represent a touch of her old life and her old life and old happiness, because she wore blue when she was with her father in the beginning of her life (and her silver ball dress is bluish and looks blue in the dark).

It's cool that you experienced a dream come true like Cinderella and your perspective of her wanting it and knowing about it for so long and then to accomplish getting to experience it is a great new view on it. Of course, Cinderella going to the ball to be able to be social and live life like people who are above servants, even for one moment, definately makes her dream deep and not shallow.
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Cinderella's dream was to find happiness, and I think she knew that somehow, happiness would be found in that castle. Maybe not as a princess, but she was destined to live there...she just didn't realize it till the morning after the ball. :-)

Another dress we're forgetting is the one she wears as a child when her father was alive, which represented her life as a gentleman's daughter. I've often wondered why Cinderella's father chose to marry a noblewoman from a good family. Maybe he felt that marrying "up" would eventually help he and Cinderella in the long run, which it did.
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Oh yeah, since we are discussing Cinderella, I just remembered this episode of Duck Takes: Scroogerello:

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The episode starts with Scrooge McDuck being sick, and Webby reads him the story of Cinderella. As he falls asleep, he begins to dream that he is Cinderella, Glumgold is his wicked Stepfather, the Beagle Boys the wicked stepbrothers and Goldie the Princess Charming.

At Tokyo Disneyland, they retold the Cinderella story with Mickey and friends as puppeteers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF-yAhFGEcM

While it is in Japanese, the imagery and the body language help the story well enough.

I just find is fascinating when Disney themselves re-tell some of the classic stories with different characters.
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tsom wrote:Cinderella's dream was to find happiness, and I think she knew that somehow, happiness would be found in that castle. Maybe not as a princess, but she was destined to live there...she just didn't realize it till the morning after the ball. :-)

Another dress we're forgetting is the one she wears as a child when her father was alive, which represented her life as a gentleman's daughter. I've often wondered why Cinderella's father chose to marry a noblewoman from a good family. Maybe he felt that marrying "up" would eventually help he and Cinderella in the long run, which it did.
never really though of it that way. Kinda makes it seem like she's coming out of her shell.
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I know this probably comes out of nowhere.... but I'm reading all this stuff about Cinderella's dresses...
But seriously: the dress the mice make for her... is that not the UGLIEST dress ever in a Disney movie? Can you imagine a woman wearing that in real life???
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