King Arthur (2004)

Choco Bear · Post by **Choco Bear** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:44 pm

Heres the trailer and site from the new King Arthur movie from Jerry Bruckheimer and starring clive Owen and Keira Knightly. Its being released from Disney's Touchstone label.
http://kingarthur.movies.go.com/main.html

this movie looks so amazing I am so lookong forward to this I cant wait for it and the fact that its by Disney is even better

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:06 pm

Oh yeah, I saw the ad for this one the other day, it does look interesting...

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 8:21 am

This looks incredible! They'd better do it well because I'm sure people (including myself) are expecting the next Pirates of the Caribbean. Especially since it's got Jerry Brokheimer (spelling?) and Keira Knighley.

I'm so glad she's in it. She's an amazing actress, and her looks don't hurt, either! PLus the accent...

Anyway, the only thing that bothers me is that I'd probably rather see a movie about the legend, rather than the true story. It'll be interesting to actually see the true story, but the legend could incorporate much more fantasy and romance. This looks like it may end up being reliant on action.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:46 am

This is definately one of the must-sees of 2004 for me. I doubt it'll be as successful as Pirates, because it doesn't look like it will appeal as much to all ages. But it looks like a hit, none the less.

Satoshi · Post by **Satoshi** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:00 pm

Looks great to me as well. Too bad I'll only be sixteen when it's released, not quite old enough to get into an R-rated movie. Guess I'll probably have to wait for the DVD to see it. Same with Troy.

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:38 pm

Satoshi wrote:Looks great to me as well. Too bad I'll only be sixteen when it's released, not quite old enough to get into an - movie. Guess I'll probably have to wait for the DVD to see it. Same with Troy.

How do you know King Arthur or Troy will be "R"? They haven't been rated yet. I suspect at least Troy will get a PG-13 to cash in on the teenage audience (particularly the female teenagers) considering Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt are in it.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:06 pm

Jack wrote:
Satoshi wrote:Looks great to me as well. Too bad I'll only be sixteen when it's released, not quite old enough to get into an - movie. Guess I'll probably have to wait for the DVD to see it. Same with Troy.
How do you know King Arthur or Troy will be "R"? They haven't been rated yet. I suspect at least Troy will get a PG-13 to cash in on the teenage audience (particularly the female teenagers) considering Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt are in it.

What about Keira Knightley (particularly the male teenagers)?????

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:45 pm

Prince Adam wrote:What about Keira Knightley (particularly the male teenagers)?????

Yeah, them too (I'm one of them

)

But teenage girls are the ones known to go back to a movie repeatedly to see their hunks.

pinkrenata · Post by **pinkrenata** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:20 pm

Personally, I would say that this version is no more based on truth than the original "myths". But, I suppose, people will do anything just to get away with putting Guinevere in some skimpy get-up and running around the forest wearing war paint, right?

Choco Bear · Post by **Choco Bear** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 7:33 pm

Jack wrote:
Satoshi wrote:Looks great to me as well. Too bad I'll only be sixteen when it's released, not quite old enough to get into an - movie. Guess I'll probably have to wait for the DVD to see it. Same with Troy.
How do you know King Arthur or Troy will be "R"? They haven't been rated yet. I suspect at least Troy will get a PG-13 to cash in on the teenage audience (particularly the female teenagers) considering Orlando Bloom and Brad Pitt are in it.

it is going to be rated r apperantly cuz jerry bruckheimer said that he wanted to make this movie a r rated movie and thats why its on the tyouchstone label and not the dsney label

jasmine-rules · Post by **jasmine-rules** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:32 am

I agree. This movie looks awesome!!! This is the first time that I saw the trailer! I don't think that it will be rated R unless there is graphic violence during the fighting. I'm a huge fan of the king arthur legend and can't wait to see this movie!!!!

Jake Lipson · Post by **Jake Lipson** » Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:42 am

From the <a href=http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808404753 target=blank>Greg's Previews</a> page for King Arthur:

MPAA Rating Note: (4/7/03) Talking to "Variety" last week, producer Jerry Bruckheimer confirmed that this project is aiming for an R rating, saying "Audiences want to see something that's real. They don't want to cut away. With a war - they don't want everything to be sugarcoated".

Granted, it still could get a PG-13 if the MPAA doesn't think it's violent enough to warrent an R (and I hope so), but if they're aiming for the R it'll probably be R-violent and get them their desired rating. (Before the success of the R-rated Matrix sequels and Terminator 3, this probably would have been a PG-13 at all costs with a director's cut R rated DVD.) But if this is an R I'll probably see it with my teacher (or, if all else fails, own the DVD at the very least.) Looks exellent! Can't wait.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Wed May 12, 2004 3:11 am

Well, I've just seen pictures from the film, especially Guinevere

. All I can says is... well, it appears Disney has as much respect for the English (or should that be French!

) myths and Xena does to it's greek myths.

I don't know, I was expecting more. Does every blockbuster have to be "dumbed down" with women in skimpy clothing?

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Wed May 12, 2004 9:48 am

I'm very excited, as this looks like a great movie. I do wish it was based on the myth, though (for the same reasons that I wish the gods were being left in Troy). These are the things that made it so cool to begin with, right? Then again, I said the same thing about Ever After leaving out the magical aspects, but ended up really liking it for what it was.

Do you think it will contain any of the young Arthur/sword in the stone stories?

-Aaron

Lady · Post by **Lady** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:03 pm

It looks like King Arthur will be another flop for Disney this year.

The movie cost $170 million to make and market, but has only made $15 million during its first weekend and $23.5 million to date. Anchorman, which cost significantly less, did much better than King Arthur at the box office this weekend. Bruckheimer should have gone with a better known leading man. Keira just doesn't have enough clout to market a picture like this all on her own.

So sad.

Maerj · Post by **Maerj** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:19 pm

I think that Disney's marketing department is lacking lately. King Arthur looked pretty good and my brother liked it a lot. It's a shame it didn't do better, but with Anchorman and Spiderman out, well that's a lot of competition. Maybe if they called it King Arthurman?

Seriously, the only good that can come out of the company's poor box office performance this year is that maybe it will add more pressure to get Einster out of there. Once that happens, they need to make it this sort of thing will never happen again. Set a term limit for the CEO or something.

Jake Lipson · Post by **Jake Lipson** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:19 pm

King Arthur looks pretty good for a war epic, but I think what drew a lot of people away from it is that it's so radically different from the King Arthur we all know and love from other Arthurian pictures such as Camelot, Disney's The Sword in the Stone, Quest for Camelot, and etc. I'm all for different interpertations but, like Troy, it looks to be so extremely rewamped from the fermilliar that I think it's getting hurt for it. Generally bad and/or mixed reviews aren't helping it much either.

Obviously, they were trying to go after the same kind of success Pirates of the Caribbean had in the same slot last year (this is especially evident since trailers and ads are proudly proclaiming it "From Jerry Bruckhimer, Producer of Pirates of the Caribbean.") But a war epic with only one recognizable star (Kierra Knightley) is never going to do as well as a comic adventure with four recognizable names (Johny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Kierra Knightley and Geofrey Rush.) Not to mention Pirates was released by Disney (as opposed to the TouchStone banner) and had a kick-butt marketing campign, the kind that shows what wonders Disney's marketing guys are capable of when they try (and when a really solid picture is behind that marketing.) I mean, I know Disney and TouchStone are basically the same/interchangable in some cases, but the Disney name had a certian weight which helped Pirates which wasn't there -- nor should it have been there -- for King Arthur. KA is too violent for a "Disney" release, I'm sure, but they shouldn'tve expected Pirates-like numbers without it just because Bruckhimer and Knightley are involved and it has the same release weekend.

Also, I would NEVER, EVER, under ANY cercumstances put it up against the second weekend of Spider-Man 2. Even I gave King Arthur a skip in favor of taking a second spin in Spider-Man 2's web, after having seen it previously on opening day. I still want to see KA, but I'll catch it later. Spider-Man is just such a strong film -- a crowd-pleasing arthouse action movie with great effects and an even better story and script brought to life with amazing acting, which just happens to have the second widest release in film history. Yeah...I would definately have steered King Arthur far away from it.

*sigh* It is sad to see Disney having another bomb though. They had such an amazing 2003 slate and the returns showed it. What a way to follow up on it, huh? Once again, Pixar will have to come and save Disney's rear end this November with The Incredibles for 2004 to turn profitable for them.

Uncle Remus · Post by **Uncle Remus** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:09 pm

poor King Arthur

i guess i couldnt compare itself to other popular movies such as Spider-Man 2 or Anchorman.

englishboy · Post by **englishboy** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:36 pm

More marketing, yes. But the primary reason this movie is tanking is that, quite simply, it's a bad movie. Just check the reviews. If this film offered a compelling new take on the Arthur tales people would find time to see it, even with Anchorman and Spidy (or is that Spidie) in theaters. Eisner distrusts creative talent, such as screenwriters, and therefore movies under the house name, save for DFA titles, have a rep of poor story qualities. My top four reasons to ditch Eisner are:

Lack of investment in quality feature (or short) animation
Lack of investment and originality with the theme parks
Lack of vision for the overall direction of the Disney corp
Lack of ability to develop--in house or otherwise--successful scripts that would, in turn, produce successful films, that would, in turn, produce successful home video, successful licensing, etc.

castleinthesky · Post by **castleinthesky** » Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:40 pm

englishboy wrote:More marketing, yes. But the primary reason this movie is tanking is that, quite simply, it's a bad movie. Just check the reviews. If this film offered a compelling new take on the Arthur tales people would find time to see it, even with Anchorman and Spidy (or is that Spidie) in theaters. Eisner distrusts creative talent, such as screenwriters, and therefore movies under the house name, save for DFA titles, have a rep of poor story qualities. My top four reasons to ditch Eisner are:

Lack of investment in quality feature (or short) animation
Lack of investment and originality with the theme parks
Lack of vision for the overall direction of the Disney corp
Lack of ability to develop--in house or otherwise--successful scripts that would, in turn, produce successful films, that would, in turn, produce successful home video, successful licensing, etc.

Bad Reviews only persuade people who believe them. I never believe reviewers. Last year The League of Extrodinary Gentlemen was my favorite movie. Movie reviewers gave it bad scores.

Meanwhile, recent hits such as Spiderman 2, Anchorman, and Dodgeball make me sick with the movie industry. Everyone does not have the same opinions. Reviewers go by theirs. You shouldn't believe what they say. Take your own opinion.

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