fahrenheit 9/11 turns 50m after second week

[englishboy]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/ ... enheit.tm/

This will probably pull 100m by the end of July. Oh, Micheal Eisner, why have thou forsaken us!

[Mr. Toad]

The good news is that if the Weinsteins don't have their contracts renewed they will still have some major money(They ended up personally financing the distribution).

[Uncle Remus]

i didnt like the movie even before it came out. i thought it was a very stupid idea for a movie. Michael Moore should be labled as "A Idiot."

[englishboy]

Uncle Remus,

(Though there is some strange oddity in that the fictional Harris character's Uncle Remus would've clearly sided against Bush...) this thread was not about how well certain people would like the movie, simply if the distribution arrangement (non-Disney) was a financially, um, dumb move for the company.

[Loomis]

i didnt like the movie even before it came out. i thought it was a very stupid idea for a movie. Michael Moore should be labled as "A Idiot."

I have an occasion where people should be labelled "AN Idiot" - it is called 'judging a movie before you see it'.

And it is a documentary, not just an "idea for a movie".

However, from the clips I've seen, the guy playing the president isn't too convincing.

Glad to hear it has done well, especially given Disney dropped it like a sack of hot potatoes. I wonder if they will still have DVD control rights, in the same way they did with Kevin Smith's Dogma after it went to Lion's Gate/Columbia?

[Uncle Remus]

apperantly I dont like anyone who thinks of the President in bad ways. President Bush saved our butts from being taken over by the Middle East. Could you imagine what else would happened if the attacks kept on going after Sept. 11? America would right now be in ruins. Its also good that President Bush sent troops out to the Middle East to stop all the nonsense over there. If Al Gore was president, we wouldnt be hearing about a War in Iraq right now. No we would be hearing about another affair in the White House. and to tell you the truth, the news about President Clinton's affair was just a horrible thing to hear about. It made you wonder if this is the kind of president that you would want to run America.

[Son of the Morning]

apperantly I dont like anyone who thinks of the President in bad ways. President Bush saved our butts from being taken over by the Middle East. Could you imagine what else would happened if the attacks kept on going after Sept. 11? America would right now be in ruins. Its also good that President Bush sent troops out to the Middle East to stop all the nonsense over there. If Al Gore was president, we wouldnt be hearing about a War in Iraq right now. No we would be hearing about another affair in the White House. and to tell you the truth, the news about President Clinton's affair was just a horrible thing to hear about. It made you wonder if this is the kind of president that you would want to run America.

Ahahahaha!

Not quite the most politically savvy individual, are we? Oh, deary me, another forum teenybopper and armchair political commentator with an understanding of current events gained squarely from cable news. Just out of curiosity... did you know who Michael Moore was before this movie?

[Paka]

Hehe, what Clinton did was child's play compared to several other presidents. Kennedy is (still) idolized, and his sexual escapades were jaw-dropping. He had an affair with Marilyn Monroe, for pete's sake! Anyhoo, people seem to forget that Clinton was pretty dang good at the job he was "hired" for - running the country. We wasn't perfect, that's for sure, but he was a good president. So far, I haven't seen anything redeeming about Bush's abysmal term. e_e

I'm quite surprised that Fahrenheit 9/11 held its own and was still #2 in the face of the Spider-Man 2 juggernaut this weekend. I haven't seen it yet, but it's definitely up there on my to-do list. [silly shameless plug]Maybe I'll warm up to F9/11 by seeing The Corporation first.[/silly shameless plug] ~_^

[buffalobill]

apperantly I dont like anyone who thinks of the President in bad ways. President Bush saved our butts from being taken over by the Middle East. Could you imagine what else would happened if the attacks kept on going after Sept. 11? America would right now be in ruins. Its also good that President Bush sent troops out to the Middle East to stop all the nonsense over there. If Al Gore was president, we wouldnt be hearing about a War in Iraq right now. No we would be hearing about another affair in the White House. and to tell you the truth, the news about President Clinton's affair was just a horrible thing to hear about. It made you wonder if this is the kind of president that you would want to run America.

Thanks, Uncle Remus. I needed a good laugh tonight. You and Britney Spears seem to have the same political astuteness (she is quoted in an interview with Tucker Carlson in Fahrenheit 9/11 also saying we should blindly follow President Bush in all things). Yes, of course we wouldn't be reading of a war in Iraq if Bush weren't President because THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 & posed NO threat to us. Al Gore might have put down My Pet Goat and gone after the (here's a unique idea) THE REAL KILLERS (bad OJ reference here). And what makes you think we'd be reading of an affair? Bill Clinton wouldn't be President, Al Gore would be & there has NEVER been a hint of scandal in regards to his relationship with Tipper. Yes, Mr. Gore might have continued the economic policies of the Clinton administration that produced 22 MILLION new jobs instead of negative job growth under Bush (the first since the Depressions).

[englishboy]

In other news, I stand corrected. 9/11 actually crossed the 60m mark this weekend--but just barely.

[Leonia]

I haven't been able to see this film since it was released in theaters nationwide. All the local ones close to where I live keep selling out.

Still nice to know that F9/11 is doing well. I like Michael Moore's works (I don't always agree with him 100%, though), it's just too bad Disney decided to give up a potential box office winner.

[Uncle Remus]

Disney didnt realy need to distribute this movie because already they have enough problems with some of thier other films. Some of their films have to be editied (Make Mine Music, Melody Time, Fantasia) and some of their films will never be released again due to protesting (*cough* Song of the South *cough*). It was bad enough that Disney had to edit some of their WWII cartoons so they can actually be released. If Disney released Farenheit 9/11, then many people would start thinking of Disney worse than ever. In the future, Disney would not be making any more movies and maybe all of the Disney parks will be closed because Disney kept raising the price for tickets and soon people will think that Disney is only wanting you to spend money and not have a good time. it was bad enough that one of my friends and his family went to Disney World on September 11. They paid for their tickets and they went inside only to find that all the people in the park were leaving due to the September 11 attacks. They wanted a refund but Disney wouldnt give them one. So his family decided that they will never go back to Disney World because they thought Disney was a bunch of cheapstakes.

[Poppins#1]

I went to see Fahrenheit 9/11 over the weekend. The theater was sold out and the audience went wild with applause at the end of the picture! Michael Moore is a genius and this movie is going to open alot of people's eyes to reality. But shh.... be careful what you say. The FBI might be listening!

[englishboy]

If Disney released Farenheit 9/11, then many people would start thinking of Disney worse than ever. In the future, Disney would not be making any more movies and maybe all of the Disney parks will be closed because Disney kept raising the price for tickets and soon people will think that Disney is only wanting you to spend money and not have a good time. it was bad enough that one of my friends and his family went to Disney World on September 11. .

Huh, what? Disney was never going to release 9/11. Miramax, which has a distribution deal through Disney, was going to release it. As far as I know, Disney has never edited a touchstone, hollywood films, miramax, (insert other prod co name other than Disney) film for politically/racially objectional content before its release on home media.(**) And what does this movie have to do with Disney closing all of its parks?



(**) Now that I think about it, wasn't there a film called "The Program" that was edited while in the theaters. Never saw it, but it was about a college football program. In one scene, a group of football players lie down on the painted line between highway lanes to "prove themselves." It was Touchstone, and I think the film was edited while in the theaters, removing the scene. (Copycat morons around the nation were lying down on highways.) I assume--but don't know--that the scene was deleted for VHS. Also, this film made a ton of money.

[Loomis]

apperantly I dont like anyone who thinks of the President in bad ways.

Apparently? You'd know what you think, wouldn't you?

President Bush saved our butts from being taken over by the Middle East.

No, he started a war and sent a bunch of people over to kill and be killed. He also completely ignored the rest of the international community.

Could you imagine what else would happened if the attacks kept on going after Sept. 11?

Yes, he'd have even more fuel to add to his political fire. And his political career would be guaranteed!

America would right now be in ruins.

Umm....too easy.

Its also good that President Bush sent troops out to the Middle East to stop all the nonsense over there.

All the nonsense over there. Ok, please tell me what nonsense it is that YOU think they went over to stop. THIS I'm really interested in. Crazy all night parties? Weapons of Mass Destruction Orgies? Lots of "nonsense" goes on around the world, what made Iraq so special do YOU think?

Now, if you mean "brutal dictatorship", I can see what you mean. But what business is that of the US acting as part of a Coalition of the Willing. Whatever happened to state sovereignty? The US acted alone in a global pissing contest, and took a couple of lackey countries along with it.

If Al Gore was president, we wouldnt be hearing about a War in Iraq right now.

So you are saying no war is a BAD thing? Gore for President!

No we would be hearing about another affair in the White House.

We do now anyway! the Republicans constantly pull that one out every time they want to say "We are sooo much better. We don't even HAVE sex".

and to tell you the truth, the news about President Clinton's affair was just a horrible thing to hear about.

Yes, it must have been comforting to go back to the nice news - bombing Iraq civilians, and keeping prisoners of war without reference to globally accepted rights and privileges.

It made you wonder if this is the kind of president that you would want to run America.

I am thinking exactly the same thing. What kind of president do you want running the country?

If Bush was getting laid, there would less war.
I am a dreamer.
C'mon everybody - dream with me.
"All we are saaaaaaying...."

[Uncle Remus]

Loomis - i see you like quoting me alot. if you're trying to be my friend, you are doing it the wrong way.

also in World War II, do you think President franklin D Rooselvelt sent out American soldiers so they can be killed by Nazi soldiers. origanlly America wanted to stay out of WWII. but after the Pearl Harbor attack, America couldnt refuse to stay out of the war.

so frankly the war in Iraq today is like WWII except American soldiers are the ones fighting.

[buffalobill]

also in World War II, do you think President franklin D Rooselvelt sent out American soldiers so they can be killed by Nazi soldiers. origanlly America wanted to stay out of WWII. but after the Pearl Harbor attack, America couldnt refuse to stay out of the war.

so frankly the war in Iraq today is like WWII except American soldiers are the ones fighting.

You should try standup comedy.

There is NO comparison between WWII and the war of aggression in Iraq. You are obviously in the group that is getting smaller but still exists that thinks Iraq had something to do with 9/11. THEY DIDN'T. Al Qaeda & Iraq are NOT one and the same thing.

It's like arguing with a 12 year old Rush Limbaugh.

[Mr. Toad]

Uncle Remus - If I understand your post(the one Loomis is so fond of quoting), you are taking the position that war is a better thing than sex.

I am not really sure Clinton's affair was horrible - mildly amusing maybe.

As for horrible - American fighter pilots bombing wedding parties - which they have done in both Afganistan and Iraq would qualify as horrible events.

[Uncle Remus]

i think Clinton's affair is horrible to the eyes of a 8 year child. i would wake up on sunday when i was young and all i ever heard on the news was "Clinton, Lewinsky, In the White House, With the.. oh never mind".

i would rather hear more about war than hear about someone having an affair with another. the news about affairs sometimes makes others feel bad you know.

[englishboy]

Since this is getting out of hand, I'll try to step in with some reason.

Uncle, I'm fairly certain that you're in school--maybe high school--and that you probably live at home. I'd also tend to guess that your parents, probably because of their economic circumstances, are conservative Republicans. Correct me where I'm wrong. I say this because I work at a school and I see similar arguments from kids often. But usually these kids are repeating arguments put forward by their parents at home.

So there may be a couple things to take away from this:

(1) First off, I don't think you understand the position of your parents. Though there can be a coherent argument made for your positions (which I STRONGLY disagree with), you don't seem to understand the premise from which such an argument is made. Therefore, your position can only be seen as mimickry (which is why people are poking fun at you) because you are poorly sampling other people's arguements without understanding them. And since you don't understand them, you certainly can't believe them either.

(2) Though I suspect that you live in a world where the positions you "hold" seem reasonable and normative because your parents and most of their frields also hold similar positions, in the larger world, these positions are a significant minority. Even within the Republican party, there is an active movement to distance US from its involvement in Iraq. Also, I'm guessing here, part of your statement seem to suggest a religous bias, so here's something to consider: this fall there'll be two Christian candidates (Bush and Kerry), both active in their churches, but both of whom have come to extremely different views, based partially on similar faiths (Protestant, Catholic), on how the US should use its resources.