Quite interesting

Brad Bird was one of the very first people to work on The Simpsons crew, so Rich Moore directing an animated Disney film is not that crazy. There do exist directors who are flexible enough that they go from making adult material to directing family fare. Look at the recent example of Martin Scorsese, primarily known for directing violent gangster pictures and then went on to make the incredibly touching and adventurous family picture Hugo.DisneyJedi wrote: Wait, wait! Hold up a sec! The guy who worked on Futurama and Drawn Together (both adult cartoons) is working on this, a Disney film?! I'm... not sure what to say...
Agreed. What does it matter if he worked on those things in the past? If there was anything about him or his ideas for the film that was "un-Disney", I doubt he would have been hired in the first place.estefan wrote:Brad Bird was one of the very first people to work on The Simpsons crew, so Rich Moore directing an animated Disney film is not that crazy.

I'm not going into a big debate about this but Walt Disney died in the 1960's and in the intervening four decades, society as a whole has changed an awful lot and there are a lot of things we see today that we wouldn't have if we'd been around in Walt's day.Disney Duster wrote:Back in Walt's day, even adult stuff was not as crude, violent, irreverent, and, well, negative and bad feeling as the adult stuff of the Simpsons or Futurama or Sarah Silverman.
I'll put it this way; I'm not expecting any bad language, sexual innuendo or violence in this film, the same as I wouldn't in any other WDAS film. When I heard who the director was or the actors that they had cast, I didn't automatically assume that this would be a ninety minute animated Fox comedy and I haven't heard anything at all that makes me think otherwise. On the contrary, from what I've read, it sounds like it will be a funny film that people within the industry seem to be very excited about it so I'm definitely excited for it and hope it will be the success that some are predicting.Disney Duster wrote:Do they now? Or are they f-ing with it?
I'm against that too.estefan wrote:Or that the song-writer of Avenue Q and The Book of Mormon would then write the songs for Winnie the Pooh.

I'm sorry, but isn't that somewhat closed minded? To think that just because someone usually does adult oriented enteratinment, one can't do family oriented entertainment?Disney Duster wrote:I'm against that too.estefan wrote:Or that the song-writer of Avenue Q and The Book of Mormon would then write the songs for Winnie the Pooh.
I stand by what I said. There's plenty of adult stuff out there but the people working on Reboot Ralph aren't just adult their equivalent in Walt's day would be whatever was as bad and anti-Disney that could exist back in his day that was accepted by other adults but that he would never allow to be at his studio.
Juts because they can making something sweet amidst a million other of the kind of jokes and stories they tell doesn't mean a thing. Oh so Disney's just sweet and heartwarming, that's all they are, not even a special kind of it, so you can't even tell when you're watching a Disney film versus the right Futurama episode, there's no difference, nothing that seperates them, no essence? They might as well be the same thing, why give them different names at all? Sure.
Offfffffff course you are...Disney Duster wrote:I'm against that too.estefan wrote:Or that the song-writer of Avenue Q and The Book of Mormon would then write the songs for Winnie the Pooh.
Haha. I pointed out how it's not just going from adult to family, what they did is the more crude and bad of adult.Dream Huntress wrote:I'm sorry, but isn't that somewhat closed minded? To think that just because someone usually does adult oriented enteratinment, one can't do family oriented entertainment?
Haha, like Apple is the same. Apple is about making everything new, no matter the cost. Walt always selected old stories, or old things, old traditional values and sensibilities, just with new methods or technology. Don't anyone bring that quote up about movng forward, because that quote does not specify what new things Walt would do, according to that you could say a "new thing" could be adding new sensibilities aka making evil win in a Disney flick.Dream Huntress wrote:Seriously, Walt Disney has been dead for over 4 decades, to keep the company going based in the way stuff was done in his days is not only silly, but also poor business making, and puts great restrictions on the artists and the creative process. No wonder Steve Jobs asked Tim Cook not to let happen to Apple what happened to Disney after Walt died.

You do realize Disney spent almost 2 decades tiptoing around stories and terrified to try anything because they kept wondering "What Walt would do?", until they finally stopped doing that, because they were the ones who were still there, and decided to just try to tell good stories? In that sense, is the same, Steve Jobs didn't want Apple to be stuck in one gear, and I don't think Walt Disney would have wanted the company to freeze in time and stop being creative after he was gone.Disney Duster wrote: Haha, like Apple is the same. Apple is about making everything new, no matter the cost. Walt always selected old stories, or old things, old traditional values and sensibilities, just with new methods or technology. Don't anyone bring that quote up about movng forward, because that quote does not specify what new things Walt would do, according to that you could say a "new thing" could be adding new sensibilities aka making evil win in a Disney flick.
How is Futurama or The Simpsons bad or crude? Ever heard of the term 'satire'? Both shows were actually more intelligent than most things Disney did. So, who are you to judge the people who worked on these shows?Disney Duster wrote: Haha. I pointed out how it's not just going from adult to family, what they did is the more crude and bad of adult.