Title of 6th Harry Potter book revealed.

Mushu2083 · Post by **Mushu2083** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:02 pm

For you Harry Potter fans out there, according to Yahoo! News (I found the article there) , the title of the sixth Harry Potter book is "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince". This title is NOT confirmed so she may change it if she wants to. There were rumors that the sixth book was to be titled "Harry Potter and the Pilar of Storge" but J.K. shrugged off the title as "laughable". "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince" is NOT the confirmed title so don't get mad at me if this won't be title after all!

Uncle Remus · Post by **Uncle Remus** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:22 pm

i think this title might refer to Harry Potter since his mother was a muggle-born (Mudblood as known in the books) and his father was born a wizard. so the idea about the Half Blood Prince could be refered to as someone who has half muggle-blood and half wizard-blood. i think i will go back and read the OotP to see if i can spot any more upcoming ideas for the 6th book.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:39 pm

Actuallty, the title *IS* confirmed. It's on J.K. Rowling's official site. I personally love the title, though J.K. has confirmed on her site that the Half Blood Prince neither refers to Harry nor Voldemort. Does it refer to someone we'll least likely suspect? A new character? Speculating's so much fun.

MagiChar · Post by **MagiChar** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:06 pm

This title was also a working title for Chamber of Secrets. I think whoever the prince is must have been in CoS.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:22 pm

Hmmm, I would have thought "Mudblood" would be more appropriate.

Anyhoo, the big question is: Has Rowling finally got an editor, or will she continue to describe the entire Quidditch match in a 100 pages or more?

I do enjoy the books, but I think it is about time somebody edited them. It is not so much the length that worries me, as the fact much of it is not needed. It seems to be a way to jack up the hardcover price (which is where the majority of initial sales are made). Take the fourth HP book for example. Way too long. The first few hundred pages were at the equivalent of the Quidditch world cup, and as fun as it was for a while, what the audience wanted was to get to Hogwarts and get on with the adventure. And in the end, Goblet of Fire WAS a good adventure.

Now, I've not read "Phoenix" (might borrow it this week), but it also seems too long (expecially when the point of these books was to encourage kids to start reading. If you have spent time around kids who don't read much, the first thing that will put them off is the length).

Now I'm not suggesting she should dumb these down at all, but there IS a lot of filler.

Still, look forward to the new one...

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:35 pm

I thought the 4th book had too much superfluous writing at the beginning, as well, but not the 5th. The 4th remains my favorite, though. That title is AWESOME!

But if you recall, the title of Book 4 was announced to be Harry Potter and the Doomsday Tournament- retailers even had posters up for it, until shortly before its release, when GoF was announced.

-Aaron

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:45 pm

Hmm, well, J.K. promised that this title will hold up all the way till the day of release, so I'll take her word for it. As much as I love Goblet of Fire, I must agree, though, that the pre-Hogwarts stuff dragged on too long, the same with Order of the Phoenix, though to a lesser extent with the latter.

Loomis - I never knew you read the books (the first 4, anyway). I'm guessing you did so recently since based on your comments of the HP films, it seemed you hadn't. Welcome to our world.

As for Half Blood Prince's relation to Chamber of Secrets, I still think it's possible that it could refer to an unknown character. Why? Because J.K. said the main reason she abandoned the title for book 2 was because she removed A LOT of things from it, deciding that it was better fit for book 6. What I find interesting is that the books follow a pattern:

Books 1 and 7: The defeat of Voldemort (assuming, of course, he IS defeated)
Books 2 and 6: The issue of Mudblood, Pureblood, and Half Blood
Books 3 and 5: The relationship of the Marauders
Book 4: Stands alone because it acts as a bridge in the series

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:10 pm

Disneykid wrote: Loomis - I never knew you read the books (the first 4, anyway). I'm guessing you did so recently since based on your comments of the HP films, it seemed you hadn't. Welcome to our world.

I had read all the books that were out prior to the release of the first film, it is only the 5th I've not read.

Despite what I said above, I still think the books are far better than the films. My critixism is largely that Rowling needs to develop as a writer a bit more to maintain an adult as well as kiddie audience.

As for the films, they have either played in a dull fashion (when they stuck too closely to the book e.g. Philosopher's Stone) or too quickly (when they didn't stick closely enough - Azkaban).

Having said that, I will try and knock over Potter 5 this week, then make further calls then.

Mushu2083 · Post by **Mushu2083** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:12 pm

I haven't read any of the books or seen any of the movies. Well I did see the first movie but I fell asleep halfway through. I tried reading a Harry Potter book but I just couldn't get into it. I prefer Meg Cabot and John Grisham.

DreamerQ18 · Post by **DreamerQ18** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:40 pm

I am Excited does anyone know the tenatvie date for this book realsed ?

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:32 am

I just got a vibe here! Half-Blood Prince = Rubeus Hagrid!!!!! He was important to CoS and is a half-blooded giant. It makes sense, no?! I don't know why it would be a prince though....

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:56 am

I really liked Book 4 and I have very slowly been reading Book 5 for the past year now.

Despite what I said above, I still think the books are far better than the films.

There's absolutely no need in the world to makes the movies compete with the books. The fact that they make movies does not mean they are trying to replace the books or say, "Oh geez, those books we made were so stupid. Here, you'll like the movies much better." The movies are merely giving you one way to enhance your imagination of what the characters and the events in the books might be like.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:20 am

Disneykid wrote:Books 1 and 7: The defeat of Voldemort (assuming, of course, he IS defeated)

Hi Disneykid.

My theory is Voldemort will be defeated in book 6, making way for a more powerful foe to be the focus of book 7. It's a standard dramatic device. Build up a villain, only to find out the ultimate battle is with someone/thing more powerful.

My personal theory is Lucius Malfoy only ever got into Voldemort's gang with the aim of acquiring the power for himself, so he's my number one suspect. I also think that ultimately Draco will turn on his father himself. Draco and what we know about his mother have exhibited a few of the classic signs of being victims of physical abuse in the books, so perhaps Draco will end up protecting his mother. Remember how Draco verbally defends his mother and not his father when teased at school about his family? (That in itself is a hint that they both share being victims of abuse).

Imagine a showdown in Book 7 between Lucius Malfoy and the DeathEaters, and Harry and his gang (now including Draco!).

But it's only a theory, and most probably wrong. I was hoping Order of the Phoenix would drop a few hints about this (or at least somebody having an intent to challenge Voldemort's leadership), but there were none that I picked up on.

Christian · Post by **Christian** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:29 am

Well, it's apparent she has all sorts of different arcs set up for the different characters.

Prince Adam · Post by **Prince Adam** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:24 am

awallaceunc wrote:I thought the 4th book had too much superfluous writing at the beginning, as well, but not the 5th. The 4th remains my favorite, though. That title is AWESOME!

But if you recall, the title of Book 4 was announced to be Harry Potter and the Doomsday Tournament- retailers even had posters up for it, until shortly before its release, when GoF was announced.

-Aaron

Our local bookstore had a poster advertising it as "& the Doomspell Test", then "& the Doomsday Tournament", then "& the Triwizard Tournament", and finally "& the Goblet of Fire".

Personally, I didn't think Goblet of Fire to be a really good or appropriate title-the goblet had a very small part in the story.

Matty-Mouse · Post by **Matty-Mouse** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:00 am

I agree Prince Adam,
I would have called book four "Harry Potter and the Triwizard Tournament" but I think that might of given a bit too much away.

I also DON'T think the books need the slightest bit of editing. I have never read a harry potter book/chapter/page that I felt dragged so I am all for long books. I want Book seven to be the size of the first six put together!

Not sure I agree with you Netty, Lucius is more of a lap dog like Wormtail to me. Plus J.K. has said that Harry and Darco will NEVER join forces.

I think the "Half Blood Prince" much have been mentioned in "Chamber" somewhere personally. My money would be Syltherine himself or Dumbledore.

I CANT WAIT TO READ THIS BOOK!

Kram Nebuer · Post by **Kram Nebuer** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:58 am

MagiChar wrote:This title was also a working title for Chamber of Secrets. I think whoever the prince is must have been in CoS.

It's interesting you should mention this. Just two nights ago, I was watching the interview with JK Rowling and Steve Kloves on the 2nd disc of CoS DVD. They were discussing communication between the two writers and JK Rowling stated that when he wanted to cut something, she said something like "No, you need that b/c it is important in book 6." Now I'm not quite sure if she was either making it up for an example or it was true. Based on other observations (Disneykid's book comparisons is uncanny!

), it seems true to me.

Anyhow, the title sounds great and makes me wonder what the heck the books going to be about. I don't mind the lengths though b/c it means more story (even if it isn't needed) of one of my favorite book series. Though what I find really annoying is that everyone thinks its a race and tries to read the whole thing in one day/night! That's insane! It's true sometimes you can't put it down, but personally I like to read it slowly so I get a chance to enjoy it over a long period of time.

Matty-Mouse · Post by **Matty-Mouse** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:38 pm

I've just had another thought, I think the Half Blood Prince could be Godric Gryffindor. Don't know why but he's mentioned a load in Chamber and theres that thing with the sword?

Uncle Remus · Post by **Uncle Remus** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:18 pm

all i know is that the title refers to someone who is half-blood which makes me really obvious that it must has to do with something about Voldemort since it was mentioned that his mother was a witch and his father was a muggle. i may have reread the Chamber of secrets again as well as the order of the phoenix.

Disneykid · Post by **Disneykid** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:02 pm

2099net wrote:
Disneykid wrote:Books 1 and 7: The defeat of Voldemort (assuming, of course, he IS defeated)
Hi Disneykid.

My theory is Voldemort will be defeated in book 6, making way for a more powerful foe to be the focus of book 7. It's a standard dramatic device. Build up a villain, only to find out the ultimate battle is with someone/thing more powerful.

My personal theory is Lucius Malfoy only ever got into Voldemort's gang with the aim of acquiring the power for himself, so he's my number one suspect. I also think that ultimately Draco will turn on his father himself. Draco and what we know about his mother have exhibited a few of the classic signs of being victims of physical abuse in the books, so perhaps Draco will end up protecting his mother. Remember how Draco verbally defends his mother and not his father when teased at school about his family? (That in itself is a hint that they both share being victims of abuse).

Imagine a showdown in Book 7 between Lucius Malfoy and the DeathEaters, and Harry and his gang (now including Draco!).

But it's only a theory, and most probably wrong. I was hoping Order of the Phoenix would drop a few hints about this (or at least somebody having an intent to challenge Voldemort's leadership), but there were none that I picked up on.

Hi, Netty.

Very interesting theory, but I don't think any of those things will happen simply because a) J.K. Rowling confirmed that Voldemort will appear in both books 6 and 7 and b) she also confirmed that despite rumors, Harry and Malfoy will never work together. Still, it's a fascinating theory, and I'm sure those hints you mentioned will resurface themselves in another way in the last two books (like Draco's relationship with his dad, which the film expanded upon considerably).

Oh, and Uncle Remus, J.K. said the title doesn't refer to Voldemort.

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