Tae wrote:My biggest problem with Flynn's dialogue is I can see it dating the movie pretty quickly, compared to, say, Little Mermaid or Cinderella where the speech isn't so full of phrases/ways of speaking that were current when the movies came out.
Agreed. Flynn's dialect will be off-putting to viewers in a couple of decades, unlike older DACs.
Lazario wrote:...I just wanted to illustrate a troubling forum pattern.)
*cough*a pattern that you are frequently responsible for*cough*.
Lazario wrote:I admitted up front that my reply was going to look suspicious but I've more than proved it was entirely academic.
Anyway, I said what I said and you can't undo it or twist it. Try though you may.
Super Aurora meant nothing against you and you launched an unprovoked attack on him. Now you are trying to weasel your way out of it and paint him as the villain? Enough already.
Dr Frankenollie wrote:
Lazario wrote:...I just wanted to illustrate a troubling forum pattern.)
*cough*a pattern that you are frequently responsible for*cough*.
It's ok. Just ignore him. He's just being an asshole and hypocritical by excusing me of going off topic even though he started it. He'll always be like this at me.
Super Aurora wrote:It's ok. Just ignore him. He's just being an asshole and hypocritical by excusing me of going off topic even though he started it. He'll always be like this at me.
Actually, I was accusing quindarka for going off topic but I apologized for it (it was a cheapshot anyway). Not that I'm saying everyone likes me or anything. That's your job.
Anyway, like I was saying before, you have a disturbing preoccupation with the Three Fairies. And the scene you referenced is bullshit nitpicking of the highest order. You honestly think Sleeping Beauty is the only Disney movie to state the obvious in a would-be dramatic fashion? What are you, new?
Lazario wrote: Not that I'm saying everyone likes me or anything. That's your job.
No it isn't.
Lazario wrote:Anyway, like I was saying before, you have a disturbing preoccupation with the Three Fairies. And the scene you referenced is bullshit nitpicking of the highest order. You honestly think Sleeping Beauty is the only Disney movie to state the obvious in a would-be dramatic fashion? What are you, new?
I may make big over exaggeration on my dislike for the three fairies, But I do dislike them(not as much on Merriweather I think), and felt like their morals and themes shove in my face. In fact it's not too different from Goliath annoyance at the rafiki/adult Simba convo that he finds to be forceful and shoved in his face. While I disagree with him on that, I don't go at him, and call or find him disturbing or need therapy for that opinion.
I'm well aware Disney as a whole does this, but to me I find the fairies to hold it to an obnoxious level to me compared to others. You may not see it that way, but I do. This thread is what lines make you cringe, and I stated mine's. And now you're calling me out on it just because you don't find it tasteful to you?
Tae wrote:My biggest problem with Flynn's dialogue is I can see it dating the movie pretty quickly, compared to, say, Little Mermaid or Cinderella where the speech isn't so full of phrases/ways of speaking that were current when the movies came out.
Just like the title, too.
toonaspie wrote:"Best day ever!" -Tangled
ehh...to me that sounds like something you would hear in a low-grade comedy or knockoff.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Super Aurora wrote:two from Sleeping Beauty:
Merryweather, Flora, Fauna: [noticing Prince Phillip's cap on the floor] Maleficent!
Merryweather: She's got Prince Phillip!
Flora: At the Forbidden Mountain!
Fauna: [nervously] But we can't... we can't go there.
Flora: We can. And we must!
i literally shout at the screen, "NO SHIT, REALLY?!"
I believe those are the lines Walt actually wrote himself...but ignoring that, I honestly don't understand why you think they are so cringeworthy.
"Thats the funny thing about birthdays; they're kind of an annual thing" - Rapunzel, Tangled
I actually liked when mother gothel said "No, I distinctly remember, your birthday was last year" (paraphrasing a bit), because I think it set mother gothels' personality well. And i think it is pretty funny. But that Rapunzel line… ughhh, it sounds so awkward and forced, and I always cringe when hearing it.
Merryweather, Flora, Fauna: [noticing Prince Phillip's cap on the floor] Maleficent!
Merryweather: She's got Prince Phillip!
Flora: At the Forbidden Mountain!
Fauna: [nervously] But we can't... we can't go there.
Flora: We can. And we must!
i literally shout at the screen, "NO SHIT, REALLY?!"
I believe those are the lines Walt actually wrote himself...but ignoring that, I honestly don't understand why you think they are so cringeworthy.
I'll talk to you about it when you and Tim come over. We did promise to watch the movie with my commentaries right? lol
btw did you get my email message? Also we sent your jacket back.
Lazario wrote:Either way, exactly why are you attempting to invoke anything from my area of expertise against any aspect of one of Disney's greatest movies?
Uhhh no. I'm not attempting provoking you at all. You're making yourself be provoked over nothing. I wasn't even thinking about you when typing my post.
Lazario wrote:You know I had to come in and correct you.
No I wasn't expecting or hoping you reply at all. I posted lines that made me cringe, not "lines that I list just to piss Lazario off".
Uh-oh, he's onto you, Super A.! He has clearly revealed your hidden agenda! How sneaky of you to give your opinon on a subject that was entirely what the topic starter asked! But you see: you can't fool Lazario that easily! He sees right through you! He'll unravel your diabolical vendetta against him, no matter how well you try to hide it! What did you think? That giving an honest answer to a question posed by somebody else and not even mentioning Lazario at all would get past him? Ha! If he could figure out that my opinion of Lady Gaga was obviously and entirely one big scheme to get revenge at him because he said something I disagreed with on a subject I couldn't even remember anymore four months prior, then he'll certainly have no problems deducing that your opinion on characters in a Disney movie are only posted here with the sole purpose of making his life miserable! Admit it!
I give this conversation about 4 more posts before it gets this topic locked. How about you both just stop acting like children and let the people who actually want to talk about this topic have it.
In my opinion none of you should be complaining about going off topic, or digging up old arguments, or making outlandish claims, or whatever it may be because 1.) it doesn't belong here, 2.) merely commenting on it makes it worse, and 3.) It makes you all instantly hypocrites by complaining about it. I mean, do you guys even read what you type? It makes you all look like fools.
So seriously, drop this whole "They're attacking me because they know blah blah blah upsets me" and then the whole "Oh you complain about so and so, but you do this this and this" bullshit. It just ruins otherwise good discussions.
What instantly comes to mind for me is pretty much all of Meet the Robinsons. Far too many moments of forced/unfunny jokes and those along with moments where attempts to be cute turn out anything but (the Twitterpated bit for example) are what are most likely to make me cringe.
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Disney Duster wrote:
She said, "No, but my people are savage"?!?!
While they could have worded it a bit better, she isn't saying that her people are savages, she is basically stating that John Smith thinks that everyone is a savage except for Pocahontas.
It's like if someone said to me "Boy Puertoricans are some of the worst people ever", I argued it, and then the person said "Oh but you are not one of them". Even if the person apologized for indirectly calling me a bad person he still made mention of MY race being bad people, and that's what Pocahontas points out: that even John Smith apologizes to her he still implied that her friends, her family, her CULTURE is bad.
Thanks for saving me some typing pap.
To be honest that line doesn't make me cringe as much as some of the lyrics in Savages.
Has anyone ever used the exact words "They're not like you and me, which means they must be evil" in a serious context? The "Barely even human" line, while not quite as laughable, is still very obvious.
pap64 wrote:
While they could have worded it a bit better, she isn't saying that her people are savages, she is basically stating that John Smith thinks that everyone is a savage except for Pocahontas.
It's like if someone said to me "Boy Puertoricans are some of the worst people ever", I argued it, and then the person said "Oh but you are not one of them". Even if the person apologized for indirectly calling me a bad person he still made mention of MY race being bad people, and that's what Pocahontas points out: that even John Smith apologizes to her he still implied that her friends, her family, her CULTURE is bad.
Thanks for saving me some typing pap.
To be honest that line doesn't make me cringe as much as some of the lyrics in Savages.
Has anyone ever used the exact words "They're not like you and me, which means they must be evil" in a serious context? The "Barely even human" line, while not quite as laughable, is still very obvious.
Anvilicious in the extreme.
I noticed you used the troper term anvilicious;have you been to tv tropes?
