SWillie! wrote:.With a streaming service, you wouldnt have to worry about your computer or tv going down, because if they did, your movies would still be there, ready to watch on ANY OTHER DEVICE! Why did you choose to totally ignore all those points?
Because I don't want to watch them on ANY device. I want to watch them on my TV.
What is my problem with streaming if it looks perfect? Easy. That I feel I don't own the product. That at any time the place streaming the video to me could stop it, take it down, take it back. Something could interfere with it at the place it's streaming. Like when internet or cable get interference. That doesn't happen with discs.
It's not the better way. It's just the easier aka cheaper lazier way
Oh, come on! The non-Diamond Edition Blu-ray packs of Disney's classics (such as Pocahontas and The Fox and the Hound) have to include their sequels while the diamonds like Bambi, Lion King and Lady and the Tramp are sold separately from their sequels! I mean, why don't the non-Diamond films get the same treatment??
I just picked up my copy from my local Target. I used the 8-dollar off coupon on the 2-disc version of Lady and the Tramp instead of the 3-disc, and it worked, no problems. So I got eight bucks off of 22, and because Target had another deal (buy LatT and one of either Dumbo, Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Bambi, Tangled or Winnie the Pooh all priced at 19, save another 8 bucks) I saved an additional 8 dollars. So, total of 30 plus some change for Lady and the Tramp and the 3-disc Winnie the Pooh? Great deal.
DisneyJedi wrote:Oh, come on! The non-Diamond Edition Blu-ray packs of Disney's classics (such as Pocahontas and The Fox and the Hound) have to include their sequels while the diamonds like Bambi, Lion King and Lady and the Tramp are sold separately from their sequels! I mean, why don't the non-Diamond films get the same treatment??
Because no one is going to buy cheapels separately and it's a way for Disney to act as though getting two films is some big bonus feature. Plus they get to charge more.
ProfessorRatigan wrote:I just picked up my copy from my local Target. I used the 8-dollar off coupon on the 2-disc version of Lady and the Tramp instead of the 3-disc, and it worked, no problems. So I got eight bucks off of 22, and because Target had another deal (buy LatT and one of either Dumbo, Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Bambi, Tangled or Winnie the Pooh all priced at 19, save another 8 bucks) I saved an additional 8 dollars. So, total of 30 plus some change for Lady and the Tramp and the 3-disc Winnie the Pooh? Great deal.
Aw man, I wish I had known about that. I still need to pick up Winnie the Pooh as well!
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Disney Duster wrote:Because I don't want to watch them on ANY device. I want to watch them on my TV.
What is my problem with streaming if it looks perfect? Easy. That I feel I don't own the product. That at any time the place streaming the video to me could stop it, take it down, take it back. Something could interfere with it at the place it's streaming. Like when internet or cable get interference. That doesn't happen with discs.
It's not the better way. It's just the easier aka cheaper lazier way
Goodness gracious Duster. You COULD watch them on your TV.
And the probability of the host taking the film away from you or something interfering would probably be about the same odds as someone stealing your physical disc, or scratching your own disc.
The only real argument you have is that you wouldn't feel like you own something. I agree with that. Like I said, I hope they continue to release collector's editions just so I have something to collect. But for the convenience of actually watching the film, I can't wait till Disney Studio All Access starts.
DisneyJedi wrote:And they don't put the cheapquels with the Diamond Editions of their films.... why?
Maybe because they continue to make huge money off the diamond releases with their re-releases and new theatrical releases? Maybe they just think some films need an added incentive to get customers to buy it whereas as the diamonds editions, generally the most popular films, can sell themselves.
Voiceroy wrote:
Best Buy is offering an exclusive plush of either Lady or Tramp with purchase of the DVD/BR combo, but it seems there's no way to get both, and if you buy online you don't get to choose which one you get.
At the store, you get your choice of either one, but you can get the other if you buy another Disney movie on Blu-Ray or pay $5 separately for it. I saw a man who bought a copy with a Lady come back in to pick up a Tramp for his wife, and this is what the cashier told us.
Voiceroy wrote:
Best Buy is offering an exclusive plush of either Lady or Tramp with purchase of the DVD/BR combo, but it seems there's no way to get both, and if you buy online you don't get to choose which one you get.
At the store, you get your choice of either one, but you can get the other if you buy another Disney movie on Blu-Ray or pay $5 separately for it. I saw a man who bought a copy with a Lady come back in to pick up a Tramp for his wife, and this is what the cashier told us.
Well, that's good to know anyway. I already bought the 2-disc with the $8 coupon at Walmart though. I'm not as interested in the exclusive promo items as I used to be.
Disney Duster wrote:
Because I don't want to watch them on ANY device. I want to watch them on my TV.
With Disney All Access, the file would still be on your cloud account so if your TV broke and you had to buy a new one, it would still be part of your digital library and you'd be able to resume watching it like before.
I understand what you mean though about wanting the security of a hard copy in your home. Personally, for me, it's not even so much about security as it is, I feel sentimental about having a Disney classics library on my shelf. Maybe in time that will seem old fashioned to the next generation, but there is no harm in either preference. People are still able to buy not only CDs, but LP's are making a huge comeback, so I think that regardless of what becomes the dominant format for the general public, there will be some form of hard copy to purchase as well, at least in our lifetime.
SWillie! wrote:I understand your want to have hd music, and that's fine... But you need to acknowledge the fact that most people don't care NEARLY enough to go through the process of keeping music on an external hard drive.
The only thing I have left to say then is this. Everyone and I mean everyone should back up anything they download and NOT online. Sites that people use to store downloads for back up can be taken down at any time and have been. For that reason, online back up isn't as safe as it appears. Solely backing up on a computer isn't safe either because if the computer crashes, there it all goes. That's why data discs and external hard drives are your friend. It's too risky to just back files up online or to just store them on the computer or backing up on both. For me it's more convenient to have a physical copy for easy and security reasons. Not only do I not need to worry about back up as much, for music I can choose how I rip the CD, and with CD, DVD, and Blu-ray, I'm pretty much guaranteed a certain level of quality (excluding bad transfers/mastering, etc). I can watch/listen to any of those on a TV or computer (both have at least a DVD drive) or on my stereo. While I have an ipod and that does make it more convenient for portable listening, that is only a small percentage of my music listening experience. If my music were simply downloads, they would essentially be stuck on my ipod or computer for listening and I would essentially be forced to listen to music either through my ipod or on my computer. (good ipod docks are far and few between and if one has low resolution files on it, it's going to sound worse on a dock than through headphones. It's the equivalent of watching a DVD, non-upscaled, on an HDTV. That's not going to look too good. So for me, the overwhelming added convenience isn't there.
The_Iceflash wrote:The only thing I have left to say then is this. Everyone and I mean everyone should back up anything they download and NOT online. Sites that people use to store downloads for back up can be taken down at any time and have been. For that reason, online back up isn't as safe as it appears. Solely backing up on a computer isn't safe either because if the computer crashes, there it all goes. That's why data discs and external hard drives are your friend.
Very much agreed. I do so on a regular basis. Go back your stuff up, folks!
The_Iceflash wrote:The only thing I have left to say then is this. Everyone and I mean everyone should back up anything they download and NOT online. Sites that people use to store downloads for back up can be taken down at any time and have been. For that reason, online back up isn't as safe as it appears. Solely backing up on a computer isn't safe either because if the computer crashes, there it all goes. That's why data discs and external hard drives are your friend.
Very much agreed. I do so on a regular basis. Go back your stuff up, folks!
I don't get it. So you agree that the servors could get taken down or it would be lost forever when he says it. But not when I say it?
As a person that lurked here for many months because I enjoyed seeing the discussion about pending releases, I will say what discouraged me from joining until recently (and is probably discouraging other people from joining) was a lot of the bickering that goes on in these topics, generally over things that aren't necessarily related to the topic itself, and the fact that people take it so personally. I know it's not really my place to say so, but maybe for any discussion that's not about Lady and the Tramp it should be taken to a relevant part of the board.
SWillie! wrote:
Very much agreed. I do so on a regular basis. Go back your stuff up, folks!
I don't get it. So you agree that the servors could get taken down or it would be lost forever when he says it. But not when I say it?
Duster, we're talking about two different things. Me and you have been discussing a streaming service. There's no such thing as backing something up with a streaming service.
Ice flash was talking about digitally stored music and movies that are actually stored on your hard drive. In that case, it is highly recommended to back up all your files.
I was talking about finding a way to download the stream and then put it on your computer or a disc. So you stream the movie and never get to own it on anything you have? Yea...this is exactly why it's a step backward from discs.
Plus they get to charge more.
