Lady and The Tramp Diamond Edition Blu-Ray in 2012!

[Patrick]

Whoops! Yeah I should have put Tarzan. Thanks for the catch, guys.

[yanya]

So, fun question time...
... how many times have you watched Lady and the Tramp since yesterday (or whenever it came out locally)?

DVD: 0
Blu-Ray: 4
Digital: 2

[SWillie!]

So, fun question time...
... how many times have you watched Lady and the Tramp since yesterday (or whenever it came out locally)?

DVD: 0
Blu-Ray: 4
Digital: 2

Why the hell have you spent 8+ hours watching Lady and the Tramp in a 24 hour time span.

[yanya]

So, fun question time...
... how many times have you watched Lady and the Tramp since yesterday (or whenever it came out locally)?

DVD: 0
Blu-Ray: 4
Digital: 2

Why the hell have you spent 8+ hours watching Lady and the Tramp in a 24 hour time span.

Simple answer, I love Lady and the Tramp.
Give it a week or two and the shiny new Blu-Ray can take a day off.

[MJW]

I couldn't even make it through half of the movie last night before I got too tired to continue.

I'm not saying that the film is boring, but for some reason I get so tired at night when trying to watch a movie, and I started it at 8PM! I can't usually make it through a film in one sitting, it usually takes me 2 nights to watch anything!

[CampbellzSoup]

I couldn't even make it through half of the movie last night before I got too tired to continue.

I'm not saying that the film is boring, but for some reason I get so tired at night when trying to watch a movie, and I started it at 8PM! I can't usually make it through a film in one sitting, it usually takes me 2 nights to watch anything!

I found the exact opposite true I always thought this movie was boring until recently...I actually watched the making of first which made me a bit more intersted in the film.

[The_Iceflash]

iTunes song downloads are 256kps while a lossless CD rip is at 1411kps.

Okay, first of all... who in the world rips in lossless? Unless you have some MASSIVE hard drive, if you had lossless copies of all your music you'd only be able to have a matter of a few thousand songs before you're totally out of room. For someone like myself, with a library of over 20,000 songs (all at or above 256kbps) - that's obviously impossible. Lossless is not realistic, no matter how high the quality is. And that's regardless of the fact that 99% of people would never be able to tell the difference. Audiophiles like yourself might, but you are in a tiny minority.

Discussing the difference in quality between lossless and legal digital downloads is like discussing the difference in quality between an IMAX presentation vs. a blu-ray presentation. You're talking high end stuff that the majority of the population has no need for in their personal collection.

Plus, you seem to think convenience has absolutely no say in the matter whatsoever, when that obviously isn't true. Convenience, at least for a large chunk of people, and certainly the general public, is a huge arguing point. Most people will give up a small amount of quality if something is more convenient. You might not want to, but you have to acknowledge that most will, and for good reason.

This is just sad on so many levels. I don't know where to begin. First thing is suggesting that CD-level quality is "high end" that the majority of the population don't need. Since when did CD quality become too good for everyone? That's like everyone abandoning DVD and going back to VHS because DVD is too good for the majority of the population. Lossless isn't even close to unrealistic. External Hard-drives which hold a lot of space are becoming increasingly cheap. Before I go any further, I should let you know that CD quality isn't HD. It's only 16 bit. I'm not saying 16 bit don't sound good because it sounds great but I'm just putting that out there. HD audio is 24bit so think of how low our standards really are for music. A HD music download has a 4608kbps. By lossless I meant a lossless CD-rip. A CD isn't a Hi-res format. Also, you do realize that a HD movie will take up more space than music right? You're saying that HD film downloads will become the norm for digital download for films but there doesn't seem to be a concern for space with those but only with music. You do realize there is a major push from the audiophile community for Hi-res music right? Lossless is realistic to those who want Blu-ray. Also, if hard-drive space is such a issue, actually buy the physical copy. In most cases, I can find the physical copy cheaper than a legal download of it is (not individual songs but entire albums). I can post links to large audio collections. Music doesn't begin and end with downloads. Music Downloads for the most part are the bottom of the barrel in quality. Also, if you want to bring convenience into this, convenience is grossly overrated. For all these decades, a physical format hasn't been an inconvenience. Suddenly it's not convenient enough. One has to have it NOW a the click of a button. (Not touching the illegal downloading subject of people and their entitlement when it comes to thinking they shouldn't have to pay for music). It's a shame so few realize how poorly made many releases (or catalog releases) are today. The songs are clipped and thus lose dynamic range, and are compressed to sound artificially loud (see loudness wars) and one thing that's an issue with catalog re-issues, NR, or noise-reduction, all of which is audible. You know how we would criticize a restoration if we feel like it's been scrubbed to an artificial level, such that, information, texture, etc is lost from the picture? Well, that's what NR does to music. So, the problem isn't just the file size and resolution but the mastering itself. The fact that people aren't caring is the problem. Just as DVD and Blu-ray were a step up for video, why don't people want the same thing for music? Don't they realize how good their music could sound? I know nowadays, people mostly listen to music as background noise with earbuds instead of a separate experience like watching a movie. If anyone wants to discuss this further, I have a thread already made about the current state of music:

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=

In fact, I would ask if anyone does reply to the above post that they do post in in that thread to keep this thread from spinning off topic.

okay, so just to give some clarification....im not very tech savvy and dont want to sound stupid with the question Im about to ask...and, I know that some people on this board can be very snakry, rude and down right a**es sometimes, but,........have I made a mistake by purchasing my prior "Diamond Edition" releases on single dvd?/? I am reading all the comments about how the Blu-Ray releases are so much better than the single dvd releases...but, I thought that it was the same movie?/? So, I guess my question is...did those of us who bought the single dvd releases screwed and have bought crappy copies compared to those of you who got the Blu-ray? in terms on the picture quality?

Blu-ray quality and DVD picture quality are different. One is in HD and the other is not. Is the DVD crappy? Absolutely not.

[MJW]

I found the exact opposite true I always thought this movie was boring until recently...I actually watched the making of first which made me a bit more intersted in the film.

That's probably a good idea. I always find myself more interested in a film after I watch the behind-the-scenes features. There has even been movies that I bordered on disliking that I've changed my opinions about after watching the bonus features.

[CampbellzSoup]

Just watched it on bluray omg this is beautiful!

[PixarFan2006]

I have not gotten my copy yet. I am kind of getting tired of upgrading DVDs to Blu-Rays, only to have to face the inevitable fact that another format will appear and I will end up having to buy the movie all over again.

I MIGHT get it Friday (my day off), however, if there are any copies left, as LATT is one of my favorite Disney movies and would like to see how good it looks in HD.

[Disney Duster]

I have not gotten my copy yet. I am kind of getting tired of upgrading DVDs to Blu-Rays, only to have to face the inevitable fact that another format will appear and I will end up having to buy the movie all over again.

Don't worry, another new, signifigantly better, and popular format is not coming for a while.

[a-net-fan]

To commemorate the re-re-re-lease of Lady and the Tramp I present.....well.....this....

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[gregmasciola]

I have not gotten my copy yet. I am kind of getting tired of upgrading DVDs to Blu-Rays, only to have to face the inevitable fact that another format will appear and I will end up having to buy the movie all over again.

I MIGHT get it Friday (my day off), however, if there are any copies left, as LATT is one of my favorite Disney movies and would like to see how good it looks in HD.

I'm with Disney Duster on this one. A new format would be pointless, in my opinion. Unless the majority of people decide that they want their movies to take up an entire wall in a room, Blu-ray quality is way way way more than fine.
Back to the movie, I just watched my copy and thought it looked amazing! I love seeing all the details of the background art.

[NeverLand]

Just got my copy from Amazon UK

[Barbossa]

To commemorate the re-re-re-lease of Lady and the Tramp I present.....well.....this....

Got to admit, We are Siamese is one of the most catchy-est Disney songs out there. I actually heard a remix of it on the radio the other day, but don't know who it was done by.

[Disney Duster]

Duster, you really should do your research before you dismiss this as a bad thing, because based on what you said in your last post, you don't seem to really understand how digital distribution works.

First, you said that if something were to happen to it, it is lost forever. That simply isn't true. The movies will be stored in "the cloud", and the worst thing that could happen would be for Disney's servers to have temporary issues. But the way cloud systems are set up, this would most likely never be a problem because of the sheer number of servers that would be set up to handle this sort of thing.

Second, you say that the quality will not be as good as a blu-ray. As of today, digital copies can be as good as blu-ray (1080p), while streaming videos are usually not. But, the quality of streaming videos has gone way up in the past two or three years, which leads one to assume that it will continue to do soon the next two or three years. In two years we could very well be streaming movies at 1080p. It will most certainly be at least 720 by that point.

Third, you say you don't want to watch the film on your computer, you want to watch it on your tv. This is what really shows me that you don't really understand how a digital streaming service works. You WILL be able to watch them on your tv, Duster, through many different devices. That's why Disney Studio All Access is so exciting. (which, still, no one has responded to me about?) you will be able to watch the movie on your computer, your phone, your laptop, your iPod, your iPad, your mothers phone, your sisters computer, your tv, your girlfriends tv, and every other device that you could possibly imagine, as long as it has Internet access. (which, in this day and age, let's face it... If you don't have Internet access, you're behind the times.) AND this will all happen without carrying a disc around or having to sync your device with your computer. It will just be there, waiting for when you want to watch.

And last, you say "how is digital the future anyways when most people don't have a bluray player and geeks are the only ones into digital?" Both these statements are wrong - first, you don't need a blu ray player to use a digital streaming service. It is only one of many devices that can be used. Others include a ps3, Xbox 360, wii, and an Apple TV. Many tvs today can even do it on their own, without any device at all. So the correlation between digital and the number of people who own a blu ray player is not relevant. And second, it is NOT only geeks who use digital streaming services at this point. Do you know how popular Netflix is? Do you know that it works the same way that I've just described above? Digital streaming for movie rentals has already hit the mainstream, and that's because it is fast, it is easy, and it is convenient.

No I mean if you buy it and it's on your computer and something happens to it or your computer, it is lost forever. You'll have to buy it again.

Second, I was talking about when I put the movie on a CD or thumbdrive or something to take somewhere. The quality won't be the same.

Third, I know you can watch it on TV by streaming. Streaming sucks sucks sucks as far as I have seen it on my own TV. I have streaming Netflix and it sucks balls. It stops and starts. The quality doesn't look the same. It just isn't as good as when I watch discs. And if something happens to my TV then it's lost forever. If I have a perfect quality disc, then I can watch that on other people's TV's if mine isn't working.

Finally, I was not syaing this depended on Blu-rays. I was saying the fact many people don't have Blu-rays shows many people don't really care about all this new digital stuff so much.

[sunhuntin]

picked up both movies while in aussie, just got home at like 4am last night so havent watched yet. they werent due to be released until the 1st feb, but i scored LATT a day early. lol.

[SWillie!]

Ice flash... I've been talking about digital films in the streaming sense. Not the download a copy to your hard drive. (Again, everyone seems to be ignoring my points about Disney Studio All Access.) That's why space wouldn't be an issue. It will all be in the cloud. I understand your want to have hd music, and that's fine... But you need to acknowledge the fact that most people don't care NEARLY enough to go through the process of keeping music on an external hard drive. I don't have much of an argument, because you're right that higher quality is higher quality. But I, like most others, prefer convenience. That's why digital music has taken over the industry, the same way digital movies will take over the industry.

Duster, you're not understanding my argument then. I've never been arguing that digital downloads to a computer are the next step. I've been arguing that a streaming service (Disney Studio All Access! That everyone is ignoring!!) is the next step. Of course carrying things around on a USB is not a step forward, because you're still carrying things around with you.

With a streaming service, you wouldnt have to worry about your computer or tv going down, because if they did, your movies would still be there, ready to watch on ANY OTHER DEVICE! Why did you choose to totally ignore all those points?

I already acknowledged the fact that streaming services are not the greatest quality at this point. I said that the quality has massively improved over the past couple years, and will most likely continue to do so. You also chose to ignore that. Your qualm with Netflix is the quality. Let's just say in two or three years, ALL issues with quality have been resolved, and you can stream movies with no problem at 720 or 1080p? Would you still have problems with streaming?

When Disney finally releases Disney Studio All Access, for all we know it could already have a way to fix these issues... Maybe, just MAYBE, that's why people are claiming that it will be a game changer.

[Flanger-Hanger]

I noticed there's still music missing from the movie that was on the 90s soundtrack release during the part of Bella Notte when they're in the park. Did they just put it into the CD soundtrack or was it supposed to be in the movie too?

[Voiceroy]

Wow, this thread has so many spin-off topics it's hard to find people discussing the actual thread topic in the last 6 pages of discussion.

dvdizzy forums are also in dire need of the ability to multi-quote posts, which would have made this post a lot easier for me.

DVDizzy review is up!:

http://www.dvdizzy.com/ladyandthetramp-bluray.html

Sadly, this review doesn't cover the 3rd digital copy disc with the 2 exclusive deleted scenes, and neither does blu-ray.com's review. Would someone who got the 3-disc please describe what the two scenes that The_Iceflash mentioned ("Baby Arrives" and "Lady's Sweater")?

Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, Prince and the Frog, Tangled, and Winnie the Pooh have all left a lot to be desired when it comes to extras on the Blu-ray.

Some of those titles also left a lot to be desired when it comes to what should legitimately be considered Disney Classics. But now I've veered off-topic.

Just got my copy from Amazon UK

Thanks for sharing these images -- I don't think this 2-pack set was even offered in the US?

And by the way, I hope you've already redeemed your DMR points. Otherwise, you might want to remove that image ASAP before some lurker here steals your code.

Interesting that they have 2 different coupon values this time, instead of making the coupon for the largest combo only, like they've done with the 3D combos in the past. People were still using them on the lesser combo pack, though.

[raises hand] I confess I have been doing this ever since Disney went cheap on us and started only offering coupons for their most expensive releases. Walmart employes rarely-to-never check to see if the coupon matches the product, and their registers automatically apply the discount too. With L&TT I also noticed the UPC code listed on the $8 off coupon didn't even match the 3-disc product it was supposed to be used on.

I can't decide on which version! The digital copy includes two deleted scenes not available anyhwhere else. But I want to get my copy at Best Buy to get the plush and it is almost $10 more than the Target version! Maybe I will get them to price match.

Best Buy actually has actually two plush available, but it seems you can't get both, and if you order online you don't get to chose which one.

What are the purchase bonus' for the States? In Canada we have:

-BestBuy: A Lady and the Tramp Golden Book
-FutureShop: A poster (the one that follows) and a $10 credit for "The Muppets" Blu-Ray.

This is what I came to this thread to find and it was really difficult to sort through the off-topic BR vs DVD vs Digital discussion to find what I was looking for. Thanks for sharing the Canadian info.

I compiled a list of all the store exclusives/purchase incentives and sale prices for the Animated Media Collectors group I host on Facebook, some of which I found thanks to members posting in this thread:

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DISNEY MOVIE REWARDS
Coupon discounts offered for "upgrading" from previous editions you own of Lady & The Tramp:
$5 off 2-disc BR/DVD Combo
$8 off 3-disc BR/DVD/Digital Copy
http://www.disneymovierewards.go.com/pr ... adyupgrade

And even if you don't own the previous versions, all you need is the UPC code off a previous release, which you can easily find via dvdaf.com by clicking "compare prices" on the title images:

http://www.dvdaf.com/search.html?has=la ... %2F*rgn_us

- WAL-MART
$28 3-disc
$23 2-disc
$28 2-disc with exclusive pack-in that includes what looks like a doggie dish but is more like a kiddie cereal bowl with 2 utensils. Not worth paying more for in my opinion. Here's a preview:

http://blurayexclusives.blogspot.com/20 ... ishes.html

- TARGET
$28 3-disc*
$23 2-disc
* Purchase of the 3-disc version gives you an additional $8 off if you buy a selected Disney movie for $20 -- titles include Winnie the Pooh, The Lion King, Dumbo, Bambi, Beauty and the Beast, and Tangled. And this offer can be combined with DMR's $8 off coupon for "upgrading" your previous release.

- BEST BUY
$25 -- they are advertising $19.99 (cost after applying DMR's $5 off coupon), so no luck on getting a better deal here than Walmart or Target. And according to reports in this thread, the 3-disc version is not available at some Best Buy locations. On bestbuy.com the 2-disc is $25 and the 3-disc is $35, and there's an $8 discount offered if you purchase L&TT with one of 6 select Disney Diamond Edition Blu-Ray title.

Best Buy is offering an exclusive plush of either Lady or Tramp with purchase of the DVD/BR combo, but if you buy online you don't get to choose the plush you want.

Here's a pic of the plush:



- TOYS R US
$23 2-disc
$25 3-disc
Plus you receive a $5 gift card with purchase of either edition which has some odd limitations: it's activated 6 hours after purchase and expires on 3/31/12.

Note: TRU's $5 trade-in/upgrade deal is only good towards the 2-disc BR/DVD combo, and they KEEP your DVD. In short, it's a crap deal because you could probably resell your Platinum Edition release for $10+ on ebay or amazon.

- THE DISNEY STORE
...was offering a set of 4 lithographs through pre-order online or in-store.
http://blog.disneystore.com/blog/2011/1 ... is-on.html

Canadian exclusives:

-BestBuy: A Lady and the Tramp Golden Book

-FutureShop: Movie poster and a $10 credit for "The Muppets" Blu-Ray.

And finally, Amazon UK is offering a 2-movie pack with the L&TT sequel, but the discs included are BR only.