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DisneyJedi wrote:You know, this never dawned on me until now, but wouldn't it make a lot more sense for this movie to be released on Valentine's Day? :?
I don't think so. That wouldn't give consumers as much time to buy it as gifts/etc. in preparation for Valentines Day.
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SWillie! wrote:
singerguy04 wrote:I don't think anyone would have any problems with Disney investing in digital distribution if Disney would keep up the quality of work on physical formats. Unfortunately, they aren't and the impression I think most of us are getting is that we're being bullied to buy into these new release methods to get the releases we want when we all know it would be fairly easy for them to release the exclusive digital release content in other formats. There's a difference between investing in the future and a new format, and forcing your consumer to buy into a product they dont want when your past product was perfectly acceptable.
I wouldn't call it "bullied into"... I'd call it giving you a reason to move on to the future of media.

To refer back to the two groups you listed a few posts ago - the first group that cannot afford or is unwilling to buy the technology required for blu-ray or digital releases, and the second group of collectors. You're right that these would be the only two groups that will hold onto physical formats. But consider how big each group is. The first group will be MUCH larger than the second. And when you consider who the majority of that first group will be - parents buying the movie for young children and others who don't really care about bonus features or the brightest and best picture quality, what Disney does with their DVDs (and eventually their blu-rays) makes absolute sense. Why should they waste money putting out the best DVD release they can, when the majority of people buying the DVD don't care or notice? The amount of people that do care and yet are still holding onto DVD is so small that they are insignificant in the long run.

And so, the same thing will happen with blu-ray vs. digital. Disney knows that those who really care about the bonus features will buy whatever format they put those features on. And so, by putting "exclusive features" on a digital release, Disney is telling fans "hey, we're planning on going this route in the future. You might want to think about it." When the majority of things have gone digital, the most hardcore fans will have switched a long time ago, thus ushering in the rest of the people who more or less follow the trends.

Disney is a business, and they have to stay relevant while still making money. You might see it as bullying, but Disney sees it as the only way to get people to hop on the bandwagon ahead of the curve.
I don't understand what or why you're arguing.

I'm not saying Disney can't pursue Digital distribution, and I'm not really complaining about it as a whole. I'm sentimental to the people who would prefer Disney to continue to pursue physical releases. Yes, the company can do whatever it wants but that doesn't mean that it's right. Just because they make moves that they think will give them the most bang for their buck, doesn't mean they are right.

I'm merely proposing the thought that Disney should try a different approach to their typical one of phasing out a medium. One where their more hard-core fans can end up benefiting than needing to jump on a bandwagon. After all, you said it yourself... we're a small number of people. Why would it matter if we download something at all? Is that something you are against? If it isn't, I really don't understand what you're posting about.

Disney could produce awesome limited edition releases of each film in their catalogue that wouldn't cost them much at all. They could release them to The Disney Store as an exclusive, and even upcharge us for them. How would that be any different than the Designer Princess Dolls that sold like crazy last year? I suppose it's something that is kind of been made available to DMC in the past, but if they can do it there, they should be able to do it more publicly. My main argument isn't against Digital, it's more for awesome physical special editions.
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Hmm, not sure which edition to purchase on Tuesday. Blue frame cover or gold frame cover?

What do you guys think is the better investment?
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I read somewhere online today that there are two additional deleted scenes that are only available on the digital copy.
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Barbossa wrote:Hmm, not sure which edition to purchase on Tuesday. Blue frame cover or gold frame cover?

What do you guys think is the better investment?
I think they will be about the same price with the $3 extra bonus for buying the gold border. i pre-ordered from TRU i think their prices are $25 and $22
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Do you want the digital copy or not? That's the selling point between the two versions.
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What are the purchase bonus' for the States? In Canada we have:

-BestBuy: A Lady and the Tramp Golden Book
-FutureShop: A poster (the one that follows) and a $10 credit for "The Muppets" Blu-Ray.

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CampbellzSoup wrote:Do you want the digital copy or not? That's the selling point between the two versions.
I don't want it and I don't need it. >: (
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DisneyJedi wrote:
CampbellzSoup wrote:Do you want the digital copy or not? That's the selling point between the two versions.
I don't want it and I don't need it. >: (
the best price is going to be toys r us.. 25/23 with a $5 gift card. the only problem.. if the dvd/blu combo is in a dvd case that is what they usually carry.
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singerguy04 wrote:Disney could produce awesome limited edition releases of each film in their catalogue that wouldn't cost them much at all. They could release them to The Disney Store as an exclusive, and even upcharge us for them. How would that be any different than the Designer Princess Dolls that sold like crazy last year? I suppose it's something that is kind of been made available to DMC in the past, but if they can do it there, they should be able to do it more publicly. My main argument isn't against Digital, it's more for awesome physical special editions.
Well then we're in agreement pretty much then. I suppose since you were the one responding to me I directed my points toward you, but looking back at the posts I guess I was more responding to others who are like "DOWN with digital!!" haha... It just seems that there are so many out there that are SO reluctant to change of any kind. Sorry if I came across as unnecessarily argumentative.

But I definitely agree. As someone who is all about the future of technology and how things will change, I would still definitely shell out some big bucks for a definitive, limited edition, super awesome platinum diamond collector's editions. The part that sucks about that idea is that you know that even if they were to go that route, the lack of consistency would still drive everyone crazy, and we would probably never see less popular films. #collectorproblems
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I can't decide on which version! The digital copy includes two deleted scenes not available anyhwhere else. But I want to get my copy at Best Buy to get the plush and it is almost $10 more than the Target version! Maybe I will get them to price match.
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SWillie! wrote:"We keep moving forward, opening up new doors, and doing new things..."

I think if there is ANY chance that digital media will become the norm of the future, then Disney ought to be putting 100% of it's efforts there, so that it becomes the innovative frontrunner of digital media, just as it has often been with physical media.

Do you all honestly believe that digital is not the future? I hope they continue to release collector's editions as much as everyone else, but to say they should forget this "digital copy crap" is to say that they should make themselves irrelevant to modern society.
Digital Copies shouldn't be wasted on a physical disc. A lot of other studios either put it with the barebones DVD or make it a full online thing.
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FigmentJedi wrote:"We keep moving forward, opening up new doors, and doing new things..."


Digital Copies shouldn't be wasted on a physical disc. A lot of other studios either put it with the barebones DVD or make it a full online thing.

Yeah I agree

I mean Jurassic Park trilogy blu ray didn't have digital copy discs at all. It's just a few codes. Disney has had some digital copy releases where the Digital copies have some (confusingly few) music on them, but it's so hit and miss sort of thing...mostly missing and leaving us scratching our heads when Mickey Mouse Clubhouse Phineas and Ferb gets a digital copy/dvd on the same disc, but some of their biggest players i.e. Lion King, Lady and the tramp, get a digital copy get a useless disc once used, useless or used for craft ideas....
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disneyboy20022 wrote:
FigmentJedi wrote:"We keep moving forward, opening up new doors, and doing new things..."


Digital Copies shouldn't be wasted on a physical disc. A lot of other studios either put it with the barebones DVD or make it a full online thing.

Yeah I agree

I mean Jurassic Park trilogy blu ray didn't have digital copy discs at all. It's just a few codes. Disney has had some digital copy releases where the Digital copies have some (confusingly few) music on them, but it's so hit and miss sort of thing...mostly missing and leaving us scratching our heads when Mickey Mouse Clubhouse Phineas and Ferb gets a digital copy/dvd on the same disc, but some of their biggest players i.e. Lion King, Lady and the tramp, get a digital copy get a useless disc once used, useless or used for craft ideas....
It's nothing more than a marketing ploy to say this is a 3, 4, 5, 100 disc set. Then they also feel the right to up charge because it was the extra disc. The few of us that know the extra disc is a useless Digital Copy understand that, but the general public just sees, "WOW, it's a 5 disc edition! That MUST be the best option! More discs = Better release".
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SWillie! wrote:
singerguy04 wrote:Disney could produce awesome limited edition releases of each film in their catalogue that wouldn't cost them much at all. They could release them to The Disney Store as an exclusive, and even upcharge us for them. How would that be any different than the Designer Princess Dolls that sold like crazy last year? I suppose it's something that is kind of been made available to DMC in the past, but if they can do it there, they should be able to do it more publicly. My main argument isn't against Digital, it's more for awesome physical special editions.
Well then we're in agreement pretty much then. I suppose since you were the one responding to me I directed my points toward you, but looking back at the posts I guess I was more responding to others who are like "DOWN with digital!!" haha... It just seems that there are so many out there that are SO reluctant to change of any kind. Sorry if I came across as unnecessarily argumentative.

But I definitely agree. As someone who is all about the future of technology and how things will change, I would still definitely shell out some big bucks for a definitive, limited edition, super awesome platinum diamond collector's editions. The part that sucks about that idea is that you know that even if they were to go that route, the lack of consistency would still drive everyone crazy, and we would probably never see less popular films. #collectorproblems
yeah, I was just making sure I didn't say anything I didn't mean to lol. Ah well, such is the life of a Disney fan.
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I assume that when Disney finally unveils Disney Studio All Access, the discs will no longer be used. At least it sounds that way...
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Although I have NO use for digital copies I'll be buying the 3 Disc at TRU (which is $1 cheaper than the 2 disc with the $8 coupon). Already presold the digital disc which will knock $7 more off my cost (less S&H, paypal & ebay fees). Great price + the gift card so I'll pass up the BB plush.
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SWillie! wrote:I suppose since you were the one responding to me I directed my points toward you, but looking back at the posts I guess I was more responding to others who are like "DOWN with digital!!" haha... It just seems that there are so many out there that are SO reluctant to change of any kind.
My problem is which those who think change of any kind is automatically going to be for the better and blindly jump on anything new regardless of it is any good. Digital downloads for films and music invite nothing promising to me. Especially when quality is compromised. Convenience seems to be more important than quality which is sad.
SWillie! wrote:Do you all honestly believe that digital is not the future? I hope they continue to release collector's editions as much as everyone else, but to say they should forget this "digital copy crap" is to say that they should make themselves irrelevant to modern society.
In that case good riddance to modern society. If it means compromising quality then who cares about relevance. I'm happy with purchasing vinyl records for the full dynamic range without limiting and compression that downloading doesn't offer. If that makes me irrelevant than so what? What's the real loss here? The music world is in such a sad state with that and I would hate to see film go that way as well. Luckily Blu-ray is an increase in quality and not a decrease as we've seen with music downloads.

I'm also not going to be a bandwagon jumper just to keep up with the newest, most relevant trends. If I feel something new is an improvement and a worthwhile investment and would like to then I would. If what I'm being offered isn't an improvement to me and doesn't seem like a worthwhile investment for that reason then so be it. Staying relevant in the modern society is the worst reason to get into new things.
buffalobill wrote:Although I have NO use for digital copies I'll be buying the 3 Disc at TRU (which is $1 cheaper than the 2 disc with the $8 coupon). Already presold the digital disc which will knock $7 more off my cost (less S&H, paypal & ebay fees). Great price + the gift card so I'll pass up the BB plush.
As will I. It's a no brainer! Get more while paying less!
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DisneyJedi wrote: I don't want it and I don't need it. >: (
the best price is going to be toys r us.. 25/23 with a $5 gift card. the only problem.. if the dvd/blu combo is in a dvd case that is what they usually carry.
You might as well get the 3-Disc and use the Disney coupon. It will actually turn out to be $1 cheaper than the dvd/blu combo. :)
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SWillie! wrote:"We keep moving forward, opening up new doors, and doing new things..."

I think if there is ANY chance that digital media will become the norm of the future, then Disney ought to be putting 100% of it's efforts there, so that it becomes the innovative frontrunner of digital media, just as it has often been with physical media.

Do you all honestly believe that digital is not the future? I hope they continue to release collector's editions as much as everyone else, but to say they should forget this "digital copy crap" is to say that they should make themselves irrelevant to modern society.
Disney should support bad things just because they're popular? Disney should abandon hand-drawn animation just because it isn't popular? Disney should have some stuff only be available on digital copies to eventually abandon physical copies just because they're not as popular?
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