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Tristy wrote:Well, like as many people said, some of the characters seem a little different than their cinematic counterpoints (many people have cited Belle as a prime example) and in my opinion it gives the wrong impression about the actual movies.
All I can say is that they need to get new people for the management for the Disney Princess franchise.All I got to say did the advertising people even watch the movies at all.Another thing is that they could do unlock the hidden potential that Pocahantas and Mulan have in merchandisng; the problem is that they have think outside the box for that.
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jazzflower92 wrote:
Tristy wrote:Well, like as many people said, some of the characters seem a little different than their cinematic counterpoints (many people have cited Belle as a prime example) and in my opinion it gives the wrong impression about the actual movies.
All I can say is that they need to get new people for the management for the Disney Princess franchise.All I got to say did the advertising people even watch the movies at all.Another thing is that they could do unlock the hidden potential that Pocahantas and Mulan have in merchandisng; the problem is that they have think outside the box for that.
I agree, the franchise does very little to actually unlock the potential each character has. The princesses could appeal to most age demographics, but they continually choose to focus on the 5-10 yr old girl range. An example of this was the HUGE success of the designer princess dolls The Disney Store released last year. I think if they spent a little more time producing more products that appealed to all fans of the characters, it would end up being more profitable than grouping them randomly together on a toothbrush.

Another flaw in the franchise is that it belittles the characters. I don't think any of the princess characters showed any infatuation with tea parties, jewels, shoes, and other luxuries. In fact, most of them acted against such things.

Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora were all raised pretty humbly. In fact all three seemed to treat royalty as a bonus when compared to finding true love.

Ariel left her old life to begin a new one, and although she went from one royal family to the other she didn't know Eric was a prince until after she had fallen for him. I doubt that her character would have cared if he was a beggar or not.

Belle and Jasmine hated being objectified. They were both clearly independent women who seemed to care less if they became (or retained, in Jasmine's case) royal status at all.

It's clear that Pocahontas was a woman of the land, so the franchise doesn't really suit her in it's current state at all.

Mulan was shown to never feel very comfortable as a feminine being. She becomes very awkward in the film every time she attempts to be girly, so once again the franchise doesn't really fit her personality.

Tiana is a working woman who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty. She's very self-driven, and just hanging out with all these other princesses in fancy clothes doesn't really seem her cup of tea. Yet, that's kind of how the franchise interprets her.

Rapunzel lived her whole life not knowing she was a princess, and began a lot like the first three. I don't believe that she would truly grow accustomed to "royal life". Her adventurous spirit wouldn't allow her to.

I think that if executives focused the franchise more closely on the actual personalities of the characters and the films they came from, we would end up with an overall more successful franchise that would probably be more gender mutual as well.
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singerguy04 wrote:
jazzflower92 wrote: All I can say is that they need to get new people for the management for the Disney Princess franchise.All I got to say did the advertising people even watch the movies at all.Another thing is that they could do unlock the hidden potential that Pocahantas and Mulan have in merchandisng; the problem is that they have think outside the box for that.
I agree, the franchise does very little to actually unlock the potential each character has. The princesses could appeal to most age demographics, but they continually choose to focus on the 5-10 yr old girl range. An example of this was the HUGE success of the designer princess dolls The Disney Store released last year. I think if they spent a little more time producing more products that appealed to all fans of the characters, it would end up being more profitable than grouping them randomly together on a toothbrush.

Another flaw in the franchise is that it belittles the characters. I don't think any of the princess characters showed any infatuation with tea parties, jewels, shoes, and other luxuries. In fact, most of them acted against such things.

Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora were all raised pretty humbly. In fact all three seemed to treat royalty as a bonus when compared to finding true love.

Ariel left her old life to begin a new one, and although she went from one royal family to the other she didn't know Eric was a prince until after she had fallen for him. I doubt that her character would have cared if he was a beggar or not.

Belle and Jasmine hated being objectified. They were both clearly independent women who seemed to care less if they became (or retained, in Jasmine's case) royal status at all.

It's clear that Pocahontas was a woman of the land, so the franchise doesn't really suit her in it's current state at all.

Mulan was shown to never feel very comfortable as a feminine being. She becomes very awkward in the film every time she attempts to be girly, so once again the franchise doesn't really fit her personality.

Tiana is a working woman who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty. She's very self-driven, and just hanging out with all these other princesses in fancy clothes doesn't really seem her cup of tea. Yet, that's kind of how the franchise interprets her.

Rapunzel lived her whole life not knowing she was a princess, and began a lot like the first three. I don't believe that she would truly grow accustomed to "royal life". Her adventurous spirit wouldn't allow her to.

I think that if executives focused the franchise more closely on the actual personalities of the characters and the films they came from, we would end up with an overall more successful franchise that would probably be more gender mutual as well.
The reason why I think the executives won't do it because they believe the general public are morons that will eat up anything.I still kinda won't the costumes to still be there but at the same time it would be fun if they expanded to other boundtries that little girls would be interested in.So,we can blame everything on the marketing people for the reason why feminists are against Disney Princesses.
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leo_brasil wrote:NEWS!!!

Brave merchandise + amazing ''banner''. :P

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-div ... o-animado/

Gorgeous wallpaper!!! :D

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-con ... o-display/
She is defiantly going to be in the Disney Princess line now.And I got to say I am loving that handbag thats there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSYlCEz5VI
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Look at that WIG :lol:
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jazzflower92 wrote:
leo_brasil wrote:NEWS!!!

Brave merchandise + amazing ''banner''. :P

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-div ... o-animado/

Gorgeous wallpaper!!! :D

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-con ... o-display/
She is defiantly going to be in the Disney Princess line now.And I got to say I am loving that handbag thats there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSYlCEz5VI
LOL! Love the Monty Python bit. :lol: I don't mind if Merida is going to be an official princess. It will be a shame if she doesn't have a prince.
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jazzflower92 wrote:
leo_brasil wrote:NEWS!!!

Brave merchandise + amazing ''banner''. :P

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-div ... o-animado/

Gorgeous wallpaper!!! :D

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-con ... o-display/
She is defiantly going to be in the Disney Princess line now.And I got to say I am loving that handbag thats there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enSYlCEz5VI
LOL! Love the Monty Python bit. :lol: I don't mind if Merida is going to be an official princess. It will be a shame if she doesn't have a prince.
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Here is a song that would suit Merida's personality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkUIy0j1 ... re=related

I just know she will be a wild child and it would be cool if someone did a amv for her with this song. :)
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Love the logo with her sitting on the "E". Kind of adds to the fairy tale aspect of the whole thing.

I guess those bears are sure going to pop in a lot of merchandise aren't they? (Knowing the way Pixar is with its cute characters, they probably will be)
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leo_brasil wrote:NEWS!!!

Brave merchandise + amazing ''banner''. :P

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-div ... o-animado/

Gorgeous wallpaper!!! :D

http://planetadisney.com.br/valente-con ... o-display/
Thankyou so much for sharing. I really loved to see that.
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Simply delightfull! Really wonderfull colurscheme.. I desperately want to see this movie!! I adore it's look.. 
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'Brave' Exhibit inside 'The Art of Animation' Attraction at Disney's Hollywood Studios
http://pixartimes.com/2012/02/03/more-b ... ney-world/
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:o That is so awesome espically the pictures of the bear.
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Those exhibit photos are fantastic! :o Thank you for sharing, Sotiris!

jazzflower92, you're the first person to reply after Sotiris' post of pictures and it was unneccesary to quote the entire post to comment on them. If everyone on this forum was quoting a post full of pictures to comment on them, discussions would be lost in the muddle. :wink:
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Sky Syndrome wrote:Thank you for sharing, Sotiris!
You're welcome! :)
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Sky Syndrome wrote:Those exhibit photos are fantastic! :o Thank you for sharing, Sotiris!

jazzflower92, you're the first person to reply after Sotiris' post of pictures and it was unneccesary to quote the entire post to comment on them. If everyone on this forum was quoting a post full of pictures to comment on them, discussions would be lost in the muddle. :wink:
Sorry. :oops:
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jazzflower92 wrote:Sorry. :oops:
You can edit your post and remove the images.
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WOAH!! That is some awesome concept art! I love the one where she's confronting the bear (the one with the bear roaring at her)! This just makes me even more excited to see the film!
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