Questions about shorts

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 11:41 pm

3 quick questions:

1. What # was Three Little Pigs in the Silly Symphony series?
2. What year was The Old Mill released?
3. Does anyone know of any sites about Disneys shorts?

Thanks all.

Mr. Toad · Post by **Mr. Toad** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:01 am

I am just counting in the Matlin book but I think the Three Little Pigs was the 34th Silly Symphony.
2. The Acadamy Award Winning Short The Old Mill was released in 1937. The use of the multi plane camera that was being tested for Snow White was an absolutely amazing advancement.
3. Unfortunately no but "The Disney Films" by Leonard Maltin provides an excellent list by year and subject. Although the explanations are a little thin comared to the movie section.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:55 am

yoda_four wrote: 3. Does anyone know of any sites about Disneys shorts?

Yes, the best site would be the Encyclopedia of Disney Shorts at Toonzone.

http://disneyshorts.toonzone.net

Thye have the most information on Disney Shorts anywhere, including release info, DVDs, and video clips.

PLus, they feature rare downloads (at the moment it is a rare Silly Symphony called 'Hells Bells').

Hope that helps.

bmadigan · Post by **bmadigan** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:25 am

yoda_four wrote:3 quick questions:

1. What # was Three Little Pigs in the Silly Symphony series?
2. What year was The Old Mill released?
3. Does anyone know of any sites about Disneys shorts?

Thanks all.

http://www.bcdb.com/

and

http://disneyshorts.toonzone.net/

mvealf · Post by **mvealf** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:46 am

Loomis wrote:Yes, the best site would be the Encyclopedia of Disney Shorts at Toonzone.

http://disneyshorts.toonzone.net

Thye have the most information on Disney Shorts anywhere, including release info, DVDs, and video clips.

I have a problem with their site, although their information is probably the best around. A couple of years ago, they sent me an e-mail asking if they could use the images of my laserdiscs on their website. I told them that because it has taken me years to collect my rare laserdiscs and put together my site, I would rather that my images stay on my site, not theirs. Then they went ahead and used them without my permission. I then sent them another e-mail saying that if they were going to steal my images, at least give me credit for them and link to my page. They did, but spelled my name wrong. Then they had the nerve to say, "Scans of most laserdisc covers cortesy of" me. It's not MOST, it's ALL scans that are mine. I don't really have respect for them because of that. My discs on their site can be seen here:
http://disneyshorts.toonzone.net/homevi ... reign.html

Ciaobelli · Post by **Ciaobelli** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:08 am

Where did you get all those btw?

mvealf · Post by **mvealf** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:19 am

Ciaobelli wrote:Where did you get all those btw?

The short answer is, many different places. They made the first Disney Japanese laserdisc in 1985 and I started collecting them in 1987. I bought a lot of them new when they were first released. The problem was that, back then (pre-internet), it was a very hard task to determine each and every Disney Japanese laserdiscs that was released, since there were only 1 or 2 places in the U.S. that would import them. I have worked with many people, and still have contacts in Japan. I believe my list is the most complete you will find anywhere.

Ludwig Von Drake · Post by **Ludwig Von Drake** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:22 am

the encylopedia of Disney shorts is a great site and it continuously being updated.

mvealf · Post by **mvealf** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:34 am

Ludwig Von Drake wrote:the encylopedia of Disney shorts is a great site and it continuously being updated.

They update their DVD section "kind of" regularly, but you can get information faster here and elsewhere. But they hardly ever update other pages like the "Mini-Classics" seen here:
http://disneyshorts.toonzone.net/homevi ... ssics.html
They show all of the Mini-Classics with photos, but it's missing 1 title called "Mickey's Magical World".<p align="center"><img border="0" src="http://www.geocities.com/disney_laserdiscs/mini/mmw.jpg" width="167" height="300"></p>For more than a year, I have given them this image a couple of times, to add to their page, but they have not updated it. They're happy to steal my images, but when I give one to them, they don't use it

Mr. Toad · Post by **Mr. Toad** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:46 am

Wow that site is a great reference even if their ethics leave a little to be desired.

Who would have thought Disney would make the Story of Menstration short?

yoda_four · Post by **yoda_four** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:37 pm

JimmyJackJunior wrote:Wow that site is a great reference even if their ethics leave a little to be desired.

Who would have thought Disney would make the Story of Menstration short?

I heard about that short. So funny!

Wouldn't at all expect Disney to make it, would ya?!

NYWAYS, Thanks everyone for the sites and references! Big Help!

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:27 pm

BTW, I think The Three Little Pigs was #36 in the Silly Symphonies series.

Mr. Toad · Post by **Mr. Toad** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:31 pm

I knew counting after Midnight could only lead to trouble.

Lars Vermundsberget · Post by **Lars Vermundsberget** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:36 pm

englishboy · Post by **englishboy** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:44 pm

huh, your scans are of copyrighted images that you don't own either. I'm not sure you have a strong moral point to rely on in this case.

Loomis · Post by **Loomis** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 5:24 pm

englishboy wrote:huh, your scans are of copyrighted images that you don't own either. I'm not sure you have a strong moral point to rely on in this case.

You make a good point, because technically neither party "owns" the right to the images.

But the addition of the scanning (which means the scanner put some "effort" - according to the definition - into their electronic version), means that the scanner has more of a right to use them on the net, as long as all due mention is made that images belong to Disney.

Disney is quite litigous when it comes to these things...

Anyhoo, I'm getting OT now.

mvealf · Post by **mvealf** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:23 pm

Loomis wrote:
englishboy wrote:huh, your scans are of copyrighted images that you don't own either. I'm not sure you have a strong moral point to rely on in this case.
You make a good point, because technically neither party "owns" the right to the images.

But the addition of the scanning (which means the scanner put some "effort" - according to the definition - into their electronic version), means that the scanner has more of a right to use them on the net, as long as all due mention is made that images belong to Disney.

Disney is quite litigous when it comes to these things...

I suppose I could have watermarked my name on them. I realize that Disney owns the copyright, and any image on the net is pretty easy to steal. But he asked me, I refused, and he used them anyway, so why did he ask me? Some of the Disney Japanese laserdiscs from the 80's are extremely rare, particularly the period when Pioneer stopped pressing them and Bandai took over. Bandai eventually lost the rights to press Disney laserdiscs and they went back to Pioneer. Some of the Bandai discs were only on the market for a matter of weeks, with very tiny press runs. Those are practically impossible to find today. To my knowledge, I am the only person who has identified every single Disney Japanese laserdisc from that period, and it took me over 20 years to complete my collection. I'm pretty confident that nobody else has the exact same collection of rare Disney Japanese laserdiscs that I have. Now I see every single image of my discs all neatly put on someone else's site. Like I said, I realize that Disney owns the copyright, but how would you feel about that?

Kram Nebuer · Post by **Kram Nebuer** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:36 pm

mvealf wrote:They show all of the Mini-Classics with photos, but it's missing 1 title called "Mickey's Magical World."

What was this movie about? Was it just the Sorcerer's Apprentice released by itself?

That sucks that they took your images w/o asking. Well, what it is an image of isn't exactly your creations, but you did put the effort into actually obtaining a whole collection (congratulations, btw) and then scanned the images, resized them, converted file type, put it on a site, etc. You have my sympathy, mvealf and I thank you for sharing your images on your site.

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mvealf · Post by **mvealf** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:51 pm

Kram Nebuer wrote:
mvealf wrote:They show all of the Mini-Classics with photos, but it's missing 1 title called "Mickey's Magical World."
What was this movie about? Was it just the Sorcerer's Apprentice released by itself?

It was promoted at the time as a showcase for The Sorcerer's Apprentice, which was years before the release of Fantasia, but it also had several other shorts. However, it was an edited version (they didn't even show the part where Mickey chops up the broom). It also has the only colorized version of Gulliver Mickey, which actually looks very good in color (there's another thread going on right now on colorized shorts). It was only released on laserdisc in Japan, of course:<p align="center"><img border="0" src="http://www.geocities.com/disney_laserdi ... a-1061.jpg" width="200" height="200">

The Lizard King · Post by **The Lizard King** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:57 pm

When I clicked on this thread, I thought that it would be an off-topic post about the relative merits/lengths of thongs, hot pants, Bermudas, pedal pushers, and Capri pants.

TLK

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