What Would Your Version of Rapunzel Be?

[nomad2010]

My version of Rapunzel would be called "Rapunzel." The End.

I pictured it as dark, with lots of very muted colors. Blues. Golden lights. A sweeping, far more eerie tower. Something that felt old and with history. I guess I saw the story starting out with the king sending one of his men to steal the flower from Gothel's garden after she refused three times to allow access to it. Furious, Gothel steals Rapunzel and vanishes. A young man, I actually like the name bastian, who is a little shy and awkward, but very masculine, large, and built, stumbles upon the tower one afternoon. Bastian is from a different kingdom than rapunzels. He climbs up and frightens Rapunzel who would be naive but nowhere near as blonde. I saw her as intellectual but cautious. A book nerd. Very scared of taking chances. He tells her stories of the world that thrill her, and comes back again and again. When Gothel learns Rapunzel has had a visitor, she is furious. One afternoon, a dashing but obnoxious prince from bastians kingdom, hears of bastians tale of this tower and goes on a quest to find her. The prince climbs up the tower only to be killed by Gothel. Gothel, thinking she has killed rapunzel's visitor would leave on a journey thinking she was safe. Bastian would return and convince Rapunzel to come with him. They adventure, Gothel finds out. Gothel does what she does in the movie. Just gets bastian in trouble with the law a different way. He returns, she stabs him. He cuts her hair. And Gothel pushes him out the window at the end, blinding him but falling to her death as well. Rapunzel is left with a choice to save the one she loves or her mother who lied to her and never cared about her at all. She saves bastian and returns to her parents. No corny ending. An actual wedding. Although, I think it would be interesting if the tower were wooden as in the concept art. And Gothel accidentally set it on fire before she died, and Rapunzel watched it burn as she saved bastian.

[5star]

I'm a bump this thread I picked up from the (crazy) disney essence debate.

I think this movie was pretty well done (almost perfect I would say), but i partly agree with everyone about the ending(which has been talked about a lot when ever speaking of the movie). So I'm a going to drop my opinion on the matter on what the best ending would be.

Simple, put a scar on Flynns hand; after flynn cuts rapunzels hair they should have made his scar reappear(the one he got in the cave). This would have signified that even if he cut her hair after she healed him (with the hair) he would have still died. And it would have made sense for Gothel to rapidly return to her age appearance (dust),when she first touch the flower.

But i guess this was disneys initial intention, but they chicken out and didnt want to put to much scars on their character in fear of frighten the little kids..

[Lazario]

Good damn question...

To answer it, I think I might actually need to know something about the history of the story and... what actually happened in the story. For example: did the hair have magical powers in the story? Or any famous version of it?

[Disney Duster]

I'm putting myself out here and admitting I thought everyone was going to think my story was the one Disney should have done. I'd love to hear and actual discussion of why mine would or wouldn't be good. nomad2010, you did have a pretty good one, but I don't like Rapunzel having to decide between saving her mother and Flynn, and some of the other things, like Rapunzel not being a peasant. I like mine because it is both close to the movie they made and much closer to the original story.

Disney's Divinity, thank you for being like the only one to comment on my version, and say positive things, no less! But you are exactly right, only the intro would really be that different.

I actually decided that it could be this way, even closer to the actual movie people know and...half-love: Mother Gothel casts drop of sun spell on Rapunzel lettuce in garden, peasants steal lettuce, Gothel steals baby, then Prince Bastian could change his name to Flynn because he always wanted to be a cool adventurer like him and he leaves the palace to be a thief, gets with the Stabbington Brothers and vikings, they tie him to the ship to make it look like he abandoned Rapunzel, Rapunzel almost heals him before Gothel pulls her away and he cuts her hair right there, and she finds her peasant parents at the end, maybe even using Gothel's magic or a map she had or something.

Simple, put a scar on Flynns hand; after flynn cuts rapunzels hair they should have made his scar reappear(the one he got in the cave). This would have signified that even if he cut her hair after she healed him (with the hair) he would have still died. And it would have made sense for Gothel to rapidly return to her age appearance (dust),when she first touch the flower.

But i guess this was disneys initial intention, but they chicken out and didnt want to put to much scars on their character in fear of frighten the little kids..

That is actually not a bad solution, except I think when Rapunzel's tear heals his wound, it would heal his hand, too, so kids wouldn't have to worry about scars. Hm, you have a good idea!

Lazario, just search, you can very easily find the Grimm's Rapunzel online, make sure it's the real one where it describes Rapunzel as being "the most beautiful child under the sun", I think that line's in the original real one. But no, there were no magic powers in her hair in the original story. But Disney has always added things since Walt Disney's time, so I think it's good.

[5star]

That is actually not a bad solution, except I think when Rapunzel's tear heals his wound, it would heal his hand, too, so kids wouldn't have to worry about scars. Hm, you have a good idea!
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Thats exactly what I was saying; her tears would heal all his wounds. But before that, the kids would have to deal with the sight of him being wounded in more place than one. I'm thinking thats why they didn't go with it. I personally don't think it would be a problem though..

[Disney Duster]

Thats exactly what I was saying; her tears would heal all his wounds. But before that, the kids would have to deal with the sight of him being wounded in more place than one. I'm thinking thats why they didn't go with it. I personally don't think it would be a problem though..

I just realized something, though. It would mean Flynn had to know, or assume, that the magic would be undone after he cut her hair. Otherwise, he still would have let her heal him before he cut it, which goes back to the need for my idea where Mother Gothel realizes Rapunzel doesn't need to be over there to heal him, just her hair needs to be on him, so she tries to pull her away and so Flynn has to cut her hair from her head right then.

[Super Aurora]

I just realized something, though. It would mean Flynn had to know, or assume, that the magic would be undone after he cut her hair.

He knew cause Rapunzel told him about it during campfire scene. She showed him her cut brown hair lock(the one Gothel cut back then) beneath the long golden hair.

[Disney Duster]

I just realized something, though. It would mean Flynn had to know, or assume, that the magic would be undone after he cut her hair.

He knew cause Rapunzel told him about it during campfire scene. She showed him her cut brown hair lock(the one Gothel cut back then) beneath the long golden hair.

I know he knew that cutting her hair would make the hair not magical anymore. I was talking about he would have to know if that would undo all the magic that had ever been done by the hair, as in Mother Gothel's age or Flynn's wounds.

[Super Aurora]

He knew cause Rapunzel told him about it during campfire scene. She showed him her cut brown hair lock(the one Gothel cut back then) beneath the long golden hair.

I know he knew that cutting her hair would make the hair not magical anymore. I was talking about he would have to know if that would undo all the magic that had ever been done by the hair, as in Mother Gothel's age or Flynn's wounds.

He didn't.

He cut the hair so Rapunzel could be free from Gothel's grasp as Gothel wanted Rapunzel for her hair powers and Rapunzel said she'll stay with her forever if she let her heal Flynn . It was basically Flynn's way of saying to Gothel, "Fuck you bitch, you're not keeping my wommin"

[ajmrowland]

wouldnt change anything except adding the origins of the flower song. the drop of sun is a bit much too.

[Disney Duster]

He didn't.

He cut the hair so Rapunzel could be free from Gothel's grasp as Gothel wanted Rapunzel for her hair powers and Rapunzel said she'll stay with her forever if she let her heal Flynn . It was basically Flynn's way of saying to Gothel, "Fuck you bitch, you're not keeping my wommin"

You didn't read my version of the story. You don't have to but I was hoping you would. In it, I explained this... I was saying it was stupid of Flynn to cut Rapunzel's hair before she healed him. He could have been healed...then cut her hair. So I came up with the idea of Gothel trying to pull Rapunzel away because only her hair needed to be on him to heal him, so then he is forced to cut it before he is healed.

[5star]

He didn't.

He cut the hair so Rapunzel could be free from Gothel's grasp as Gothel wanted Rapunzel for her hair powers and Rapunzel said she'll stay with her forever if she let her heal Flynn . It was basically Flynn's way of saying to Gothel, "Fuck you bitch, you're not keeping my wommin"

You didn't read my version of the story. You don't have to but I was hoping you would. In it, I explained this... I was saying it was stupid of Flynn to cut Rapunzel's hair before she healed him. He could have been healed...then cut her hair. So I came up with the idea of Gothel trying to pull Rapunzel away because only her hair needed to be on him to heal him, so then he is forced to cut it before he is healed.

I watched it again today, i focused more on the ending. And I thought more about gothel; honestly, I don't think he could have waited till after she healed him. And its a bit more believable this way, because it was sort of unexpected on gothels part(shes not expecting a wanted thief to sacrifice himself for rapunzel) . I mean she would have to have been really dense to stand there and watch him (after being healed) take up a shard of glass while leaning forward towards her prized possession, her fucking life line(she had to have been keeping a keen eye), especially when you consider she was standing right by her hair, which she could and probably would of tugged to pull her away the moment hes healed. She could of probably even walked up closer to them during the song and the moment its finish she would pull her away.

so the endings ok...

[Goliath]

I was saying it was stupid of Flynn to cut Rapunzel's hair before she healed him. He could have been healed...then cut her hair. So I came up with the idea of Gothel trying to pull Rapunzel away because only her hair needed to be on him to heal him, so then he is forced to cut it before he is healed.

Where is the emotional impact in your version? You forget we're talking about a movie, which is supposed to touch and move the audience. Your version is nothing but cold, hard logic... Imagine that, coming from *me*! Your version bored me to tears, by the way.

[Disney Duster]

5star, I meant that Mother Gothel would try to pull Rapunzel away as soon as the song was done! Please, please get what I mean here: Rapunzel goes over to heal him, and she starts. Mother Gothel sees, out of the corner of her eye, Flynn grip the glass shard, preparing himself. She says that Rapunzel doesn't have to be on him to heal him, only her hair has to be, so she tell Rapunzel to come back and tries to pull her back, so then Flynn is forced to cut her hair just as she's being pulled back. He is still sacrificing himself, because he still could have just had her heal him and leave, but this way he has to cut her hair before he is healed.

Goliath, I think it's just because you were reading it instead of watching it with the actual character acting and such.

[DisneyAnimation88]

I was going to say the same as Goliath, that your version makes sense logically but lacks the emotional touch of Tangled. The ending of Tangled works for me because Flynn, who for so long has been immoral and selfish, commits probably the most selfless act he could by sacrificing his own life so that Rapunzel can be free. It's an ending that's prevelent in a few Disney films like Hercules, where Hercules gives up immortality and his place among the gods for a life with the woman he loves or Aladdin where the title character uses his last wish to finally set the Genie free. If Flynn is a prince then the sacrifice is still heroic but I think the sacrifice works better if Flynn is a thief who so willingly double-crosses everyone he meets but then makes the ultimate selfless gesture. If he has to cut Rapunzel's hair then it takes away from that; by making the choice to do it and break Gothel's hold over Rapunzel it redeems Flynn.

[Goliath]

Goliath, I think it's just because you were reading it instead of watching it with the actual character acting and such.

No, I'm pretty sure it's because it sucked.

[5star]

I was going to say the same as Goliath, that your version makes sense logically but lacks the emotional touch of Tangled. The ending of Tangled works for me because Flynn, who for so long has been immoral and selfish, commits probably the most selfless act he could by sacrificing his own life so that Rapunzel can be free. It's an ending that's prevelent in a few Disney films like Hercules, where Hercules gives up immortality and his place among the gods for a life with the woman he loves or Aladdin where the title character uses his last wish to finally set the Genie free. If Flynn is a prince then the sacrifice is still heroic but I think the sacrifice works better if Flynn is a thief who so willingly double-crosses everyone he meets but then makes the ultimate selfless gesture. If he has to cut Rapunzel's hair then it takes away from that; by making the choice to do it and break Gothel's hold over Rapunzel it redeems Flynn.

This.

And him being a thief also helps emphasize his growing love for rapunzel at one point; At the kingdom scene you see him dodging the guards, and splashing his cash on her(buying her shit). A thief doing that, lol come on, he must be in love..

Plus, it shows how sweat and charming she is, I mean if she can change a selfish ''very ambitious thief'' into a sincere loving man, lol Then she must be very sweat and charming girl..

[Disney Duster]

...um...did you all miss how I said that Flynn would be a prince who becomes a thief, as in he leaves his money to steal and explore, and be selfish and double-cross people. I mean, in a way he even betrayed his own family.

Also, he in my version he is still sacrificing himself. It's just that he's less stupid about it. He is still choosing not to be saved so that she can.

See?

Goliath you're being a jackass.

[Super Aurora]

...um...did you all miss how I said that Flynn would be a prince who becomes a thief, as in he leaves his money to steal and explore, and be selfish and double-cross people. I mean, in a way he even betrayed his own family.

[5star]

...um...did you all miss how I said that Flynn would be a prince who becomes a thief, as in he leaves his money to steal and explore, and be selfish and double-cross people. I mean, in a way he even betrayed his own family.

Also, he in my version he is still sacrificing himself. It's just that he's less stupid about it. He is still choosing not to be saved so that she can.

Hmm....