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I'm surprised the gargoyles put some of you guys off. I always thought they were hilarious! Granted I was 4 when the movie came out.
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Removing the dialogs of Dinosaur would do wonders for the movie. First, the mouths never look quite right when they're talking. Second, a lot of the dialogs are absolutely cringe worthy. Third, it would be closer to the way it was originally envisioned. Maybe a narrator could be added, but silent acting and the wonderful music by James Newton Howard would make the movie much better. And for those that don't believe me, compare the opening of the movie with the rest of it. The opening is miles ahead.
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@Dr Frankenollie: Of course! My mom got us the VHS tape and we watched it at least once every week! Oh and I got the Hunchback DVD this year as a birthday present!

I'd change the cutting of rapunzel's hair!
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KubrickFan wrote:Removing the dialogs of Dinosaur would do wonders for the movie. First, the mouths never look quite right when they're talking. Second, a lot of the dialogs are absolutely cringe worthy. Third, it would be closer to the way it was originally envisioned. Maybe a narrator could be added, but silent acting and the wonderful music by James Newton Howard would make the movie much better. And for those that don't believe me, compare the opening of the movie with the rest of it. The opening is miles ahead.
something along the lines of spirit, stallion of the cimarron. [my favourite animated movie]

i adore dinosaur as it is, but i agree that having them act like they would have in real life would have made the movie amazing.
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MattDean wrote:...Winnie The Pooh.

Flaw: SPOILER WARNING!



The main section of the film being a reaction to a misinterpreted note from CR. The note, even read the way Owl did, did not (really) suggest that CR had been taken away by a 'Backsoon' - if anything , as CR signed it, it merely suggested he had left of his own accord. "Gone away...busy...back soon...CR" How can that be interpreted as CR being, well, kidnapped by a 'backsoon'? It was a very weak misinterpretation and unfortunately a large portion of the film's action related directly to it. I have the DVD and watched the scene a couple of times thinking I'd missed the point but...well, if anyone can tell me where I'm going wrong - and I can be very dim! - I'd love to hear about it 'cos I'm a WTP fan!
I just found out that the Backson note does come from a story in The House at Pooh Corner, although it sounds like it's a very, very small bit, so that explains why I didn't remember it being there. My only complaint with the Backson storyline, (small though it may be because I really enjoyed the movie), is that it sort of, kind of reminded me of Pooh's Grand Adventure, when they mistake "school" for "skull".

As for the gargoyles in HoND, they are so, so wrong but I love them anyway. When I visited Notre Dame last December, I was enamored by the real gargoyles (I have a whole file of pictures to prove this point).
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Dr Frankenollie wrote:As for the actors in Bedknobs & Broomsticks, Cindy O'Callaghan was a bit bland and Roy Snart seemed to have been picked only because of his 'cutesiness.' However, Ian Weighill was good as Charlie.
I think the reason Cindy may come off as a bit bland is more to do with the script, which doesn't give her too much to say and do, in contrast to Charlie who's given plenty of chances to look smart alecky and entertaining for it.

I'll add Bambi to my list. More development of Bambi's adult life and relation with his father would be appreciated by me.
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>>I think the very small single flaws of Mary Poppins and Bedknobs & Broomsticks are that the child actors are somewhat weak.<<

Gosh, I's disagree with that. Karen Dotrice and Matthew Garber (both in Poppins and Thomasina particularly) have that special, charming "authentic kid" quality that graces so many of the Walt era films: real kids that help make the fantastic premises seem more accessible and tangible.


>>Lady and the Tramp had a few improvements in some of its songs, it would also be perfect.<<

Only What is a Baby? seems a bit weak to me - - otherwise the Lee/Burke score feels so fresh and emotionally resonant -- I just love He's a Tramp and Bella Notte in particular (Peggy's Decca singles of both are awesome).


Tiny "would have been nice" changes that come to mind (in a few of my favorite movies) -- Sleeping Beauty would have benefitted from the originally planned montage of Briar Rose growing up in the cottage with Merriweather doing all the mortal work for the other two fairies (the reason they can't do anything on Rose's 16th birthday) -- while showing the goons searching for the baby all those years and their amusing failures. (Some of these bits made it into the original comic book and help flesh out detail).

I also think Alice in Wonderland would have benefitted from introducing recurring characters like the Cheshire Cat and the Queen's threat earlier in the movie (for me the second half flows much better than the first for these minor threads).

Would have been emotionally nice, in Peter Pan, if Wendy sang a few verses of Second Star to the Right to John and Michael while telling tales of Neverland - - and perhaps there was a counterpoint as she sang to the Lost Boys about home and mother.

Song of the South could definitely have used a title card at the head clearly stating the post war, post slavery, reconstruction setting. And also a bit more clarity in dialogue on what the Dad's positions as a postwar Atlanta news journalist were that created controversy -- and subsequent tension with his wife. Both of these steps might have precluded a lot of speculation and debate on the film's content.
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merlinjones wrote:Tiny "would have been nice" changes that come to mind (in a few of my favorite movies) -- Sleeping Beauty would have benefitted from the originally planned montage of Briar Rose growing up in the cottage with Merriweather doing all the mortal work for the other two fairies (the reason they can't do anything on Rose's 16th birthday) -- while showing the goons searching for the baby all those years and their amusing failures. (Some of these bits made it into the original comic book and help flesh out detail).
Where did you learn this?! I think Escapay guessed that Merriweather was the one who did most of the work for them all, which is extra hilarious when Merriweather asked who would do the work and Flora said "we'll all pitch in"! But where did you learn all these things, and that they were actually gonna be in the movie?! Can we see storyboards or the comic?!
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Briar Rose growing up -- with Merry doing all the work while Flora and Fauna dote on the baby -- brief montage is in the 1959 Dell comic book which otherwise follows the film continuity and dialogue pretty closely (unlike some of the earlier comics from older films). As I recall, there was also a follow-up line in the comic added to the existing scene when Flora and Fauna want to make the dress/cake where one of them says to Merry "After all we've been watching you all these years.''

Don't have a comic around to scan, but the added business clarifies the set-up immensely, so I'm assuming it was at one time in the storyboards/reels. As we all know, the movie went drastically over budget so it would make sense that they lost some of this stuff due to cuts (and goons business too).

There were several versions of the 1959 comic -- a giant and a regular size, not sure if this in both, but it was also reprinted in 1970 in either the regular size Gold Key comic or the Walt Disney Comics Digest.
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In the film, Ten Who Dared, I'd cut that brief part between the opening credits and the end card.

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So the comic's the only thing you have to go on? Well, I think you're right, that the comic indicates that they were thinking of putting that in the movie and maybe had storyboards, but were the goons searching in the comic, how did you know about them?
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