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Six Flags Great America's new roller coaster opening in 2012

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Video's description on Youtube:
Get ready to take flight! Six Flags Great America announces plans to add a state-of-the-art roller coaster for the 2012 season. X-Flight is a ground-breaking wing coaster featuring cutting-edge technology. The Gurnee theme park is the first to announce plans for a wing coaster in the U.S.

X-Flight will take riders on a flight that defies gravity, with no track above or below them. Riders sit in pairs, suspended on either side of the track with their feet dangling, as they begin their climb up a 12-story plunge launching them into speeds of 55mph through 3,000 feet of intense drops and five inversions, including a barrel roll and zero-g roll. One of the most adrenaline-pumping moments on the ride is an extreme fly-through where the coaster speeds straight toward a structure, before making a last-minute vertical flip to fit through a keyhole cut-out.
Wowzers. I get a shiver down my spine imagining myself riding that. I'm wimpy about riding roller coasters that flip up-side down.
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This ride going to be at the six Flags in NJ? Awesome. I wonder if this ride is replacing any existing ride or they will make more additional land for this new ride.


I'm a big Six Flags fan. Love roller coasters.
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There are so many Great Americas theme parks, which state is this one in? Gurney, Illinois has a Six Flags Great America, California has a Great America, and I think of two or three other states with the same name themed parks.

Roller Coasters are my favorite. This one sounds great, and I could be persuaded to drive to ride it if it is within a reasonable distance from Kansas.
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dvdjunkie wrote:Gurney, Illinois has a Six Flags Great America
This is the one getting it.
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dvdjunkie wrote:There are so many Great Americas theme parks, which state is this one in? Gurney, Illinois has a Six Flags Great America, California has a Great America, and I think of two or three other states with the same name themed parks.

Roller Coasters are my favorite. This one sounds great, and I could be persuaded to drive to ride it if it is within a reasonable distance from Kansas.
Even though Sky Syndrome answered the question, I wanted to comment further (for dvdjunkie or anyone else interested).

Theme parks, both the Disney parks and the more coaster-oriented regional and traditional parks, are my biggest passion in life - even more than movies and music.

Dvdjunkie, if you like coasters, I guess you've been to Worlds of Fun in Kansas City, which is the closest major regional theme park near Kansas that has several coasters. I've always enjoyed my visits there, especially on Mamba, their 200 foot high steel "hypercoaster".

Six Flags Great America (in Gurnee IL) is a very nice regional theme park in north Chicagoland (about halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_Great_America

Its sister park is the Great America in Santa Clara, CA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California ... at_America

These are the only two parks to have ever had the "Great America" name.

Both Great Americas began life in 1976, and both were known as Marriott's Great America, as they were built by the Marriott corporation. They were the first regional theme parks to feature the Looney Tunes characters. Both parks were built as practically identical "clones", even moreso than Disneyland and Magic Kingdom - with the exact same attractions in the exact same locations.

In 1984 Marriott got out of the theme park business, and sold their Gurnee property to Six Flags, and it became Six Flags Great America; and it was at this time that Six Flags also acquired the rights to use the Looney Tunes characters in their other parks.

Meanwhile, the Santa Clara park came into the Kings Entertainment family (who also operated Kings Island, Kings Dominion, and Carowinds), and became known as simply Great America.

In the early 90's, Paramount acquired the Kings Entertainment parks and the Santa Clara park became known as Paramount's Great America.

In 2006, Cedar Fair (owners of Cedar Point, Valleyfair, and some other regional parks) acquired the Paramount Parks, and the Santa Clara park became known once again as simply Great America. One year later, it's name was expanded to California's Great America, as it is still known today.

It is interesting that while the 2 Great America parks started out as clones, their history and evolution have been radically different due to having different owners for most of their history. While the basic layouts of both parks are still the same, and some architectural landmarks common to both parks are still there, many original rides still present in one are missing in the other, or vice versa. One example is the Gurnee park still has their railroad circling the park; while Santa Clara does not. And of course, new attractions and coasters added over the years are completely different in both parks.

As far as parks with similar names, there are quite a few:

Great Adventure in Jackson, New Jersey, was opened by Warner LeRoy in 1974 and had an adjoining drive-thru Wild Animal Safari which is still open today.

In 1977, both the park and safari were acquired by Six Flags, and the property is now known as Six Flags Great Adventure and Wild Safari. It has become one of the premier thrill/coaster parks in the northeastern United States, and one of the only drive-thru safaris left in the US - a genre which was much more common in the 70's and 80's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Adventure

Six Flags America in Mitchellville, MD (just east of Washington, DC) began life in 1974 as a wildlife park, "The Largo Wildlife Reserve". As rides were added it became known as Wild World. By the mid 80's the animals were gone. In 1992, park owner Premier Parks changed the name to Adventure World. In 1999, as a result of Premier Parks buying out all of Six Flags from Time Warner (which by 2005 led to bankrupting the company and a shareholder revolt), the park became known by its current name, Six Flags America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_flags_america

Lastly, (but not least), there is Six Flags Over Mid America, in Eureka, MO, on the southwest side of metro St. Louis. This park opened in 1971 as the third and final Six Flags park that the original Six Flags company built from scratch as a brand new park. (The others were Six Flags Over Texas in 1961 and Six Flags Over Georgia in 1967). After these original three, all other parks to bear the Six Flags name would be built by other developers, and bought out by Six Flags (who themselves changed hands several times throughout their history).

In 1996, for the park's 25th anniversary season, the park's name was changed to its current name, Six Flags St. Louis, to give a more specific idea of it's location as well as to avoid confusion with the relatively nearby Six Flags Great America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_St._Louis

As for X-Flight, being a coaster fan myself, I look forward to riding it as it is definitely new and innovative. But since I have more "old-school", "meat-and-potatoes" taste in coasters (ie, I like drops, camelbacks, lapbars, and the airtime that those elements give, more than loops/inversions), it will be hard for any new coaster in Gurnee to replace Raging Bull as my favorite steel coaster in that park. And of course I love their classic wooden coasters, Viper and American Eagle, as well!

Raging Bull is a 200 foot tall steel "hypercoaster", my favorite type of steel coaster, meaning it is all about big drops, big airtime, and no loops. It is my #4 favorite steel coaster out of 217 steel coasters ridden - the remainder of the 279 coasters I've ridden are wooden, which are less common than steel coasters but my favorite kind compared to steel as a whole. (The elements of wooden coasters inspired the steel hypercoaster genre, but by using steel, they can build bigger with less maintenance than wood).

Here is a reasonably steady (though unmounted) POV of Raging Bull at Six Flags Great America in Gurnee, IL.

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Wow!!!! David you did your homework on this and I found it to very informative and very interesting. I wasn't familiar with some of the historical points about the Great Americas, but feel very informed now.

I have been to Six Flags Dallas only once and that was back in 2002, and more recently to Frontier City in Oklahoma City. Do you have any information on these parks. I know Oklahoma City is still operating, but don't know for sure that Six Flags in Dallas is.

Thanks again for your in-depth information about the parks.

And yes I am a big fan of steel roller coasters, but really enjoy some of the good old wooden ones like the one in Valencia, California at a park that slips my mind right now, you may know which one I am talking about.

"Worlds of Fun" in Kansas City is a regular visit for me during the summer months and Viper and Black Mamba are the first things I get on to get my blood pumping.
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dvdjunkie wrote:Wow!!!! David you did your homework on this and I found it to very informative and very interesting. I wasn't familiar with some of the historical points about the Great Americas, but feel very informed now.

I have been to Six Flags Dallas only once and that was back in 2002, and more recently to Frontier City in Oklahoma City. Do you have any information on these parks. I know Oklahoma City is still operating, but don't know for sure that Six Flags in Dallas is.

Thanks and no problem! To be honest most of it I knew already from closely following the industry since I visited my first park at age 3 and got hooked, and I just had to check a few specific dates so I provided the wikepedia links.

The Six Flags in Dallas is the original, flagship SF park, Six Flags Over Texas which opened in 1961. Technically it is in Arlington*, which is halfway between Dallas and Fort Worth, right in the center of the DFW Metroplex. The park is still going strong and is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year, and is the reason the chain is doing the same this year.

This was the first successful regional theme park after Disneyland opened in 1955 (although there were several failed attempts, like Freedomland in NY, between the two). The 6 themed lands of the park were the 6 Flags that had flown over Texas - Spain, France, Mexico, Texas, Confederate, and United States. Many original 1961 park elements were heavily influenced by Disneyland besides having themed sections. These include the idea of being built in the suburbs of a large metropolitan area right along the interstate system, Cast Member land-specific costumes, a railroad circling the park, a jungle boat ride, a sports car ride, a "Speelunkers Cave" dark ride, etc. As time passed the focus became more on thrills and coasters, with many of the original rides removed, like the other non-Disney regional parks.

Unique industry innovations pioneered by Six Flags Over Texas include being the first theme park to have a "pay one price" system covering all the rides (Disneyland was still using the pay-as-you-go ticket books), the first Log Flume ride (1963), and the first in the "runaway mine train" genre of steel coasters (1966).

The "sequel parks" Six Flags Over Georgia (in Austell, a few miles west of Atlanta on I-20), and Six Flags Over Mid-America near St. Louis, were the only other SF's to have their themed sections based on the Six Flags to have flown over their states/region, since all other SFs were acquisitions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_Over_Texas

Frontier City is a smaller park in OKC that was briefly in the Six Flags family in the late 90's and 2000's when its owner Premier Parks bought, and then became, Six Flags. They never "flagged" the park though due to its smaller size. After the ouster of the Premier executives from SF in 2005, the park (like many SF properties) was eventually sold and is independent again. Even though it is small, it has western-flavored charm and I enjoyed my one visit there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_City

And the park you mentioned in Valencia, CA is Six Flags Magic Mountain, which opened in 1971 as Magic Mountain, and was acquired by SF in 1979. Like Great Adventure on the east coast, Magic Mountain is considered by many to be the premiere coaster park on the west coast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_Magic_Mountain

*I spent the first month of my Katrina evacuation, during which we were not allowed to return home, in Arlington and will never forgot the incredible heart and hospitality found there during a stressful time. Being able to visit Six Flags Over Texas each weekend was a major highlight during this time, as a Six Flags season pass from one park is good at all of them, and I had one from the now-closed Six Flags New Orleans. I had grown up taking short weekend trips to this park, as well as the other nearby SF parks in Houston (now closed) and Atlanta, as New Orleans lacked a park for much of my life. So I am very familiar with SFOT!

(I have visited all of the parks I discussed in my two posts, with the exception of the Santa Clara Great America and Six Flags America near DC. But they are on my list to get to eventually!)
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I commend you on your knowledge of something that I love and don't have all the facts, sometimes. Magic Mountain was and still is one of my favorite parks in California, although at one time I lived less than 20 miles from Great America in Santa Clara and it was that I never failed to be a season pass for.

Roller coasters are probably the most fun I have when I go to an amusement park and I judge the park I am attending by the thrills I get from their featured coaster.

In Santa Monica, there used to be an amusement park called Pacific Ocean Park (P.O.P.) and they had a roller coaster that took you to the ocean's edge before making a sharp right turn and climbing to the top of a 90-foot drop that was heart-stopping.

Six Flags Over Texas seems like to be our destination next year for sure, I just remember how much fun it was, and I believe there are six monster roller coasters there. Am I right about that?
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dvdjunkie wrote:
Six Flags Over Texas seems like to be our destination next year for sure, I just remember how much fun it was, and I believe there are six monster roller coasters there. Am I right about that?
They are up to 13 now, of various sizes and genres! I guess how many one would consider "monster" depends on one's taste, but they definitely have several that are quite large.

http://www.rcdb.com/4531.htm

This one here, Titan is my favorite in the park, with a 255 foot tall first drop!

http://www.rcdb.com/742.htm
http://www.rcdb.com/742.htm?p=0

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The classic Texas Giant at SFOT was one of my favorite wooden coasters in the country. It was closed all year last year to replace all the wood track with steel track, although they kept the wooden support structure. The new version opened this year. I haven't ridden it yet, but I'm sure its still fun.

Have a nice trip! ;)
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Six Flags Great America is kind of my hometown theme park, and I've been going there since I was 6 or so. I haven't gone in 8 years now, and I'm excited for this new coaster because it gives me the best reason to go back! My only problem though is that after watching the video it looks like they might've torn down The Demon roller-coaster, which was my first looping coaster ever. If that's so, it's going to be a sad moment when I see it's not there... :(.
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singerguy04 wrote:Six Flags Great America is kind of my hometown theme park, and I've been going there since I was 6 or so. I haven't gone in 8 years now, and I'm excited for this new coaster because it gives me the best reason to go back! My only problem though is that after watching the video it looks like they might've torn down The Demon roller-coaster, which was my first looping coaster ever. If that's so, it's going to be a sad moment when I see it's not there... :(.
Then you're in luck, unless you liked Iron Wolf better than the Demon... tomorrow is the last day for Iron Wolf (which is being moved to Six Flags America), although the new X-Flight coaster itself is taking the place of the Antique Cars and now-removed Splashwater Falls.

Demon still stands! ;)

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Oh Sweet! Thanks David S.!!!

I mean, I'd hate to see any coaster leave, but I would choose Demon over Iron Wolf any day. Iron Wolf was just an OK coaster with it's main attraction being a stand-up coaster. It was also one of the most painful roller coasters I've ever ridden. It seemed you were lucky to leave the ride without a concussion, lol. With a rehab it probably would've been ok though...

If anything, I just am glad to hear that the ride is being moved and not just torn down. I hate when rides are just torn down. There was a coaster at Six Flags Great America named Shockwave that got torn down for Superman: Ultimate Flight. It apparently had a lot of operational issues, but at one point it was the tallest and fastest looping roller coaster in the world. Now it mostly sits in scrap yards after not being sold off.
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