Which Disney film didn’t live up to your expectations?

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@DDuster: Yeah, the speech was cheesy, but more than that I didn't really like the voice that gave Stitch at all. I think it might've been better if they'd went the Tinker Bell route, and not given him a voice. It would've been hard to resolve the story without some sort of dialogue though, but I'm sure it could've been done.
milojthatch wrote: Where is all this dislike for Stitch coming from? He was one of the best Disney characters of the last decade, if not the best, hands down!
Best character of the decade, I'd agree, but...it was the 2000s. :lol:

I agree with Goliath on Fantasia 2000--it always had a similar feeling to a DTV sequel, except with better animation. I mean, the hyper-bright colors aren't something you'd find in the original Fantasia, but they are the norm for every sequel they've had.

Edit: @ Linden about Mermaid (not to attack, but to give thoughts :lol: :
I actually love the climax to the film, though it’s been criticized before. Firstly, Ursula finally becomes the goddess she is in her own mind, but I also felt they needed to show her wreaking the power of the ocean to emphasize why someone would really want the trident that badly--partly because the whole film's leading up to it from the end of "Poor Unfortunate Souls." Then you have Ariel getting some retribution for her actions. And lastly Eric both proves his love for Ariel, proves Ursula’s cynicism wrong, and proves that Triton was wrong about humans. It honestly ties up all the storylines spectacularly well, imo, so I can't agree that it's clumsy in any sense.

Of course we’re going to have different opinions on Mermaid. :P I believe it’s one of the greatest Disney films this half of Disney’s history. My only criticism has ever been that it moves too quickly. And, of course, the animation isn’t at its strongest, but I can’t hold that against the movie so much as the problems behind the scenes.
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Disney Geek wrote:Another one of mine would be Fantasia 2000 It just didn't charm me anywhere near as much as the first one. I wish I could say why.
Because it's much too short; it uses awfully dated CGI-animation; it's nowhere near as innovative as the original; it focusses way too much on badly written slapstick comedy; and the best part of the movie is the segment from 1940.


Thanks for helping me put my finger on why I don't like Fantasia 2000 I don't analyse the Fantasia's in the same way I analyse the other Disney Films because of their different format. i would also say that 2000 tries too hard to tell some stories, and not hard enough to make the music visual. The music feels tacked on, with the exception of Rhapsody in Blue. It would've made a great short.

As for the Stitch controversy, I would say that Stitch is much too important to the plot to be compared to Jar Jar Binks :wink:
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Fantasia 2000 also felt more pretentious with all the comedic introductions. I liked the genuine quality of the original.
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I generally like all of the Disney animated features but there are two exceptions: Dinosaur and Chicken Little. Bland, unimaginative, more attention to visuals than story, weak characters...there is pretty much nothing positive I can take from either of those films.
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DisneyAnimation88 wrote:I agree with this. It was originally intended as a short but when Emperor's New Groove went on hiatus, Disney offered Eric Goldberg some artists to finish the segment on the condition it became part of Fantasia 2000. [...]
Really?! I never knew that.
toonaspie wrote:I also have to agree with Fantasia 2000. Didn't like the celebrity segways. It made the whole thing too contemporary. [...]
Ah, I forgot to mention those among the reasons why the movie sucked. Thanks!
Disney Geek wrote:[...]i would also say that 2000 tries too hard to tell some stories, and not hard enough to make the music visual. The music feels tacked on, with the exception of Rhapsody in Blue. It would've made a great short.
Another good point. And to think I loved it when first saw it. But I was an impressionable young kid, what did I know?
Linden wrote:The Little Mermaid: Now I realize it's an unsaid rule on UD not to criticize TLM, but I shall have to break it. [...] If they wanted a happy ending, they shouldn't have touched TLM with a 10 foot pole. [...]
Again, like I said to DisneyFan09: I won't argue with people's disappointments in Disney movies, as they're all personal and therefore they're not really up for debate... but I don't think the reasoning behind this one is quite right. Disney has always made adaptations to the original source materials. You wanna see a tragic story transformed into a magical happy musical? Watch Hercules. ;)
Linden wrote:Enchanted: I do like this movie, but I was initially very disappointed with the messy ending. Nancy did nothing wrong, yet she gets stuck with vapid Prince Edward. I'm still disappointed with it, but I've become resigned to the fact that Nancy was wronged.
That's only one of a thousand reasons why the movie doesn't make sense at all. But I'm not gonna list them here (that's not what this thread is for.) :P
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I don't know we've discussed this before. I don't keep track.
Yes, we have discussed this before and here's the proof;

http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... c&start=40
There's nothing false about your opinion of Lilo & Stitch being disappointing to you. If it was disappointing to you, it was. No arguing there. Can't be argued even. A matter of opinion. However, the idea that Lilo and Stitch, the characters, had no real connection or dynamic, is just not supported by the movie itself. That's not an opinion, that's something that's a fact taken from the actual movie.
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Goliath wrote:You wanna see a tragic story transformed into a magical happy musical? Watch Hercules. ;)
Or Hunchback. While it's not exactly happy, it's nothing compared to the original material. I try not to judge a Disney movie based on it's original source material. While I would enjoy a movie more true to the book, I;m not disappointed by Disney's version, because they obviously made those changes for a reason.
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DisneyFan09 wrote:I'm glad to see that you're humble for once.
Well, prove me wrong with evidence taken from the movie, instead of making snark remarks.
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The Princess and the Frog: It just wasn't everything it should have been. The humor, especially, is weak at best and beat-you-over-the-head dumb at worst (pun intended). It does have beautiful animation, some good songs, and a very likeable (and what's more, respectable) heroine, but overall, it's a weak addition to the Disney canon.
No offence, but it seems like it has gotten popular to hate TpatF after Tangled was released. I'm not saying that you're not stating your real opinion, but I still can't help the notion that Disney animation fans were praising TpatF during its released and then it suddenly decided that it actually sucked after Tangled got released.

Don't worry. I'm not saying that TpatF is one of Disney's greatest works, cause it isn't. But I still found it to be an enjoyable and watchable film. More than Tangled, actually, which was more flawed, in my opinion (weak songs, inconsistent tone, a weak villain and a rushed ending).
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DisneyFan09 wrote:No offence, but it seems like it has gotten popular to hate TpatF after Tangled was released.
Lots of us, including myself,already hated it before we even knew about Rapunzel.
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Goliath wrote:
DisneyFan09 wrote:No offence, but it seems like it has gotten popular to hate TpatF after Tangled was released.
Lots of us, including myself,already hated it before we even knew about Rapunzel.
I was gonna say, I saw TPATF criticisms around here WAY before Tangled was released.
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yeah, PATF is cool and all, but it was criticized here for months after it's release.
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ajmrowland wrote:yeah, PATF is cool and all, but it was criticized here for months after it's release.
Usually by the same people. :wink:

But I do think that following Tangled it has become even more popular to hate TP&TF. Or maybe I'm wrong to judge popularity by 5 to 10 posters on the Internet. :lol:
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I rewatched Hercules a while back because I hadn't seen it in years and while I thought it was cute I didn't love it as much as the other films from the 90's. To me it seemed like they were trying too hard to be like Aladdin with all of the goofiness. It is especially disappointing because of the more serious tone of Pocahontas and Hunchback and then they do a 180 with Hercules.
That is one of my main problems with "Hercules" too, with the exception that they didn't managed to do the film as frisky and light as "Aladdin". While "Hercules" does have some genuine funny moments, it was peppered with unnecessary melodrama, which prevented the film from being really funny. Actually I didn't mind the fact that Disney went a more humorous direction after "Pocahontas" and "Hunchback", but they could have done it with more flair than they did with "Hercules".
Mulan and Tarzan were a bit better balancing out the drama and humor like earlier 90's films.
I agree about "Mulan", but not with "Tarzan". While the latter film had some genuine physical and situational comedy, much of the humor was annoying and juvenile.
If any villainess disappointed me it was Narissa from Enchanted she sucked imo lol. Which lead to my disappointment because she was a mixture of the Evil Queen and Maleficent so I was expecting to love her. But Susan Sarandon was kind of a let down for me. I personally would have picked Anjelica Huston for the part she oozes early Disney villainess. Plus she has played her fair share of evil witches so she would have been awesoms. But Amy Adams saved the movie for me so it was all good. And thankfully Narissa didn't get alot of screentime.
Really? I actually liked Narissa, I though she was a villain with real flair. I prefer her to Gothel. I just never became fond of Gothel for some reason.
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Lots of us, including myself,already hated it before we even knew about Rapunzel.
Oh, I didn't knew. I wasn't here discussing that film on these boards. I'm sorry.
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DisneyFan09 wrote:[quote
If any villainess disappointed me it was Narissa from Enchanted she sucked imo lol. Which lead to my disappointment because she was a mixture of the Evil Queen and Maleficent so I was expecting to love her. But Susan Sarandon was kind of a let down for me. I personally would have picked Anjelica Huston for the part she oozes early Disney villainess. Plus she has played her fair share of evil witches so she would have been awesoms. But Amy Adams saved the movie for me so it was all good. And thankfully Narissa didn't get alot of screentime.
Really? I actually liked Narissa, I though she was a villain with real flair. I prefer her to Gothel. I just never became fond of Gothel for some reason.

I think I was just expecting her to be awesome and to me she wasn't really. Susan Sarandon didn't seem evil or threatening at all imo. The only time I liked her was when she was the hag. She was creepy and played that part well. But other than that she came off as bland and not as evil, exciting, fun to watch or overall awesome like the villains she was based on. Plus the climax was soooo disappointing with her. The dragon was not scary and it was almost laughable. Narissa was the worst part of Enchanted for me but I loved Amy Adams. It is usally the complete opposite for me I always like the villain the best but her I loved the heroine way more than the villain.

As for Gothel I thought she was well done. She wasn't "pure evil" like Maleficent or the Queen but she was interesting atleast to me. I thought she was well voiced and well animated. I liked how you kept thinking "does she love Rapunzel/Does she like Rapunzel/Does she despise Rapunzel." Her death was kinda disappointing but up until then I thought she was a great villainess. Maybe not on the level of the Queen/Maleficent/Cruella/Ursula/Tremaine but defiantely close behind.
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I'm honestly surprised at some people saying films were too dark.....in Walt's day they were made for all audiences not just kids and even his films had lots of dark moments.


Anyways.

Narissa was a huge letdown for me as well, especially at the end. It would have been better if she would just STFU instead of doing this long monologue. EAT AMY ADAMS ALREADY don't just talk about killing her. Chloroform her, drown her, hit her in the head! Do -something- >.<


For movies themselves there aren't really any that I can think of for being a letdown. The only ones that possibly come to mind are the Saludos Amigos and 3 Caballeros which is probably why they are on the lower end of my favorites list.
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DisneyFan09 wrote:Oh, I didn't knew. I wasn't here discussing that film on these boards. I'm sorry.
Why do you take everything I say as an insult?
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Goliath wrote:
DisneyFan09 wrote:Oh, I didn't knew. I wasn't here discussing that film on these boards. I'm sorry.
Why do you take everything I say as an insult?

LMAO, dude EVERYONE here seems to take things you say as an insult.

They seem to see you as the: BIG BAD BULLY!
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Okay, the one Disney film that seemed like a bit of a- No, no. A MAJOR letdown for me was Cars. I'm sorry, but when my brothers and I went to see this movie, I was expecting it to be on the same level of awesome as The Incredibles. However, it seemed much slower, not all that funny, and.... yeah.

And yet, now, it's getting a sequel, the first movie was very popular with the kids due to merchandise, when it was their weakest film... Yeah. I didn't really like it. Biggest Disney letdown for me. Ever! :(
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