Tangled Discussion Part VI: Let the Drama continue...

[Goliath]

There's a problem with this, though. Most Disney fans such as us wish that Disney wasn't viewed by so many people as "for little kids/girls". But you guys are helping that way of thinking by being embarrassed about it. Just sayin'.

Nobody was embarrassed to buy tickets to a Disney movie or a Disney dvd in the 1990's. Disney has ruined its reputation all by itself by the kiddies-oriented babysitter-sequels, the teenybopper tv shows and most of all the Princess franchise. Not our fault.

[disneyprincess11]

TANGLED HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE WORLD OF COLOR!
IT'S AT 0:51-0:58!
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[phan258]

You guys are actually embarrassed enough to make up a story? They've seen much stranger things, I'm sure.

There's a problem with this, though. Most Disney fans such as us wish that Disney wasn't viewed by so many people as "for little kids/girls". But you guys are helping that way of thinking by being embarrassed about it. Just sayin'.

Agreed.

I have no problem at all taking any Disney dvd that I buy and plunking it on checkout to buy it.

Oh, so you guys have NEVER had an instance where you felt even a little embarassed about what you were buying in public? Must be nice.

Personally, I've had several experiences where I was made to feel ashamed about what I was purchasing by the cashiers, other people in line, so on---and as a girl, I can kind-of sort-of get away with buying "silly/girly" things (moreso than a man could, I guess). I've had people flat-out call me "odd," give me nasty smirks, ect. Excuse me for falling back on a harmless excuse to protect myself from scorn--the problem here isn't with the ones who need the excuse, it's the ones who make the excuse necessary.

Just sayin'.

[Elladorine]

I got more flack for buying Sailor Moon stuff back in the day than I ever do now for getting my Disney fix. And I can understand being a little embarrassed, but I personally don't care what other people think these days.

I must be getting old.

Woah, and is it me, or did our main smilies just change?

[phan258]

Actually, I've gotten the least flak for Disney stuff than anything else...but it's still happened.

Honestly I think -everyone- cares about what others think, at least a little bit. I'd love to say I don't care at all, but I know it isn't true--I might say "screw you" to their face, but later I'll agonize and wonder if EVERYONE I come across thinks I'm a freak.

[yukitora]

Wow America seems harsh. I actively promote Tangled during my classes, even did presentations on it in Japanese. Then again, I have a pencil shaped like an bear wearing overalls which all my female teachers have loved.

[Semaj]

There's a problem with this, though. Most Disney fans such as us wish that Disney wasn't viewed by so many people as "for little kids/girls". But you guys are helping that way of thinking by being embarrassed about it. Just sayin'.

Nobody was embarrassed to buy tickets to a Disney movie or a Disney dvd in the 1990's. Disney has ruined its reputation all by itself by the kiddies-oriented babysitter-sequels, the teenybopper tv shows and most of all the Princess franchise. Not our fault.

Very true.

I'm not ashamed of paying to see a Disney film in a theatre, and thankfully, no one has given me any beef about it. For Disney merchandise, maybe because I don't buy as much, I never had to use the "little cousin" excuse yet, but I'm more than prepared if/when anyone gives me trouble.

[Elladorine]

Honestly I think -everyone- cares about what others think, at least a little bit.

Most certainly. But I was mostly speaking of strangers, like the clerk checking me out or the people behind me in line that I'll likely never see again. My family/friends are understanding of my more unique interests and obsessions, or at least those of which I'm willing to share with them.

[Chernabog_Rocks]

Oh, so you guys have NEVER had an instance where you felt even a little embarassed about what you were buying in public? Must be nice.

Personally, I've had several experiences where I was made to feel ashamed about what I was purchasing by the cashiers, other people in line, so on---and as a girl, I can kind-of sort-of get away with buying "silly/girly" things (moreso than a man could, I guess). I've had people flat-out call me "odd," give me nasty smirks, ect. Excuse me for falling back on a harmless excuse to protect myself from scorn--the problem here isn't with the ones who need the excuse, it's the ones who make the excuse necessary.

Just sayin'.

As a 22 year old male, no I don't feel embarassed about buying a Disney dvd at the store, nor have I felt that away about other animated works that I've bought (Flintstones, Scooby-Doo, G.I Joe, Transformers etc.) because who cares?

If anything I get more comments on when I toss in an R-Rated Horror flick with a Disney one just due to the contrast of the two types of films. When that does happen the cashier chuckles about it and asks for my ID.

Now, if you want to talk about being embarassed about purchases I'd agree very easily on condoms and ky jelly or even underwear to an extent. But a disney dvd (or any 'younger target audience' dvd)? No.

[milojthatch]

Nobody was embarrassed to buy tickets to a Disney movie or a Disney dvd in the 1990's. Disney has ruined its reputation all by itself by the kiddies-oriented babysitter-sequels, the teenybopper tv shows and most of all the Princess franchise. Not our fault.

Very true.

I'm not ashamed of paying to see a Disney film in a theatre, and thankfully, no one has given me any beef about it. For Disney merchandise, maybe because I don't buy as much, I never had to use the "little cousin" excuse yet, but I'm more than prepared if/when anyone gives me trouble.

I don't care. If someone questions me over it (not that it has happen too much since I've been out of high school, but it has happened) I tell them to stuff it! Don't see a need to use an excuse to be myself. I like Disney. I like animation. Either people accept that or they can get lost. And in fact I have had a few "friends" walk away over this. I'm better off. I have some family that has problems with it, I don't hang around them as much.

I think I've become this way becuase over the years, I seem to be a fan for things that are not widely popular and have gotten picked on a lot. Star Trek, cartoons, soccer. I've gotten lots of flak depending on the time in my life over all of the above. It's left me a bit feisty as a result and I stand my ground, becuase if I don't, I get trampled. As a result, the friends I have I know are REAL friends. That said, I understand that this approach may not work for everyone.

[Super Aurora]

I brought hardcore hentai (the bondage ones) porn and brought it from cashier while giving straight face. Feels good man.

Disney stuff is nothing. LOL

[pap64]

Guys want to know why I have no shame...

I WATCH MY LITTLE PONY: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC AND HAVE THE SONGS ON MY IPOD.

And I enjoyed every minute of it!

[phan258]

I brought hardcore hentai (the bondage ones) porn and brought it from cashier while giving straight face. Feels good man.

Disney stuff is nothing. LOL

L O L. You rock.

(And yes the emoticons definitely changed.....hmmm.)

I remember back in my pre-18-years-old days, my friends and I would lurk around the hentai section of our local Sam Goody, flip back those black "Adults Only" cards hiding the DVDs, and giggle at the dirty cover art. Made us feel so rebellious.

Then once I actually turned 18 I didn't care anymore. Growing up is so boring....

ETA: pap64, you're a brony?? Oh man, I love that show! Actually I was buying a pack of FiM figures a few weeks ago and the cashier gave me hell about it.....XD

[Jackoleen]

Dear Super Aurora,

When I was in college, I only ordered adult catalogues, searched online, and printed animated Disney porno. I always prayed to God that the computer wouldn't break down while I was looking at any type of porno. I'm glad that that situation never occurred.

In my opinion, "Disney stuff" isn't exactly "nothing" (Alice, Aladdin and Jasmine, Hercules and Megara, Megara, even George and Judy Jetson-and I still have the pages in a file folder from way back when) but, then again, I haven't really taken a good look at Hentai, either.

Oh. I also owned handcuffs (they're in a bag with tons of other "CONFIDENTIAL" stuff now), but I never used them.

OOPS! The discussion is getting to be rather off-topic. I guess that the Torture Chamber for the Naughty is around here somewhere?


Thank you in advance for your reply.

I brought hardcore hentai (the bondage ones) porn and brought it from cashier while giving straight face. Feels good man.

Disney stuff is nothing. LOL

[SWillie!]

Oh, so you guys have NEVER had an instance where you felt even a little embarassed about what you were buying in public? Must be nice.

Personally, I've had several experiences where I was made to feel ashamed about what I was purchasing by the cashiers, other people in line, so on---and as a girl, I can kind-of sort-of get away with buying "silly/girly" things (moreso than a man could, I guess). I've had people flat-out call me "odd," give me nasty smirks, ect. Excuse me for falling back on a harmless excuse to protect myself from scorn--the problem here isn't with the ones who need the excuse, it's the ones who make the excuse necessary.

Just sayin'.

Where the heck are you from that people actually comment on what you're buying? I've never gotten that before, ever. So yes, I've seriously NEVER had an instance of feeling embarrassed about buying a Disney film, or Disney anything for that matter. Even if I went up to the cashier with the Doll of Rapunzel and all her hair braiding goodness, I don't really care what they think. They probably just assume I'm buying it for someone else as a gift of whatever anyways, seeing as how I'm a 22 year old guy.

Not that I don't care what people think. As someone else said, everyone cares what people think about them to some extent. But the cashier at Target is really not of those people I care about, personally. Like somebody else said, the closest I've come to feeling strange about buying something is when I've bought condoms or ky or other personal products.

But a DVD? I think it's silly that anyone would feel the need to make up a story, regardless of how Disney's image has changed in the past 15 years. I think if anyone actually were to say something to me about it, I'd just tell them that I'm an animation student so I watch as many animated movies as possible.

[Sotiris]

Oh, so you guys have NEVER had an instance where you felt even a little embarrassed about what you were buying in public? Must be nice.

Personally, I've had several experiences where I was made to feel ashamed about what I was purchasing by the cashiers, other people in line, so on---and as a girl, I can kind-of sort-of get away with buying "silly/girly" things (moreso than a man could, I guess). I've had people flat-out call me "odd," give me nasty smirks, etc. Excuse me for falling back on a harmless excuse to protect myself from scorn--the problem here isn't with the ones who need the excuse, it's the ones who make the excuse necessary. Just sayin'.

I agree with this. People may (usually) not comment but they will give you looks and smirks or scoffs. It's even worse when you are guy and you live in a conservative community. That is enough to make you feel uncomfortable and embarrassed although you know that you don't have anything to feel embarrassed about. It's not an issue of whether you care about what others think, it's more of an issue of frustration that others can be judgemental about you and belittle you based on such a thing especially when it's something that it is generally frowned upon socially.

Personally, a cashier once actually commented on me buying Disney products which highly annoyed me but that didn't stop me from keep buying and doing what I like.

I think if anyone actually were to say something to me about it, I'd just tell them that I'm an animation student so I watch as many animated movies as possible.

But that is sort of an "excuse" already. Saying that you're animation student (even if it's true) to convince them that it's OK for you to watch "cartoons".

[SWillie!]

Seriously where are you guys from that people are giving you scoffs and smirks? That's so weird to me, I can't wrap my head around it. Are people just generally rude to you all the time?

I went out at 2 in the morning to Wal-Mart to buy Tangled the day it came out because I had a plane to catch the next morning and wanted to take it with me, and there was practically nobody there, and I go up to this cashier who was this big huge ripped african american guy, and he didn't say a word or give any kind of smirk or whatever. I thought the situation was funny, but not embarrassing.

Sotiris, you may be right that that could be considered an excuse, but I've never used it, and even if I ever did it would not be out of a need to defend myself. It would just be the truth. No embarrassment or "making OK" involved.

[Sotiris]

That's great for you SWillie! but you do realize that things differ from place to place, state to state or from country to country. Just because this has not happened to you does not make other people's experiences regarding this issue invalid.

I think making-up an innocent "excuse" is not something to be ashamed of when you know that other people around you are narrow-minded and judgemental.

Generally, people consider animation just for kids and consider to be "weird" (if not worse things) for growns-ups (especially guys) to enjoy watching them or be fans of the medium. That's why you've said that probably the cashier is going to think that the DVD is destined for someone else since you're a male adult and that's not considered the norm.

[SWillie!]

But that's exactly why I said that. If people are most likely assuming that a product is not for you, then why feel the need to make up a story and tell them about it if that's what they're thinking regardless?

And I'm not saying that other peoples experiences are invalid. That's why I'm literally asking - where is everyone from that has issues with this? Because I've bought my fair share of Disney stuff both in the Detroit and Orlando areas (the two places I've lived), and never run into any issues. It's just hard to believe that this is so common.

Or is this more like a "I had one guy say something so now I'm scarred every time I go the cashier" kind of thing, and it's not actually as common as some of you are making it seem? I mean it sounds like every single time you go to buy something you get some kind of reaction.

[Jules]

I wish I could contribute my own experiences to this discussion, but I simply don't buy my DVDs and Blu-rays from stores anymore. They're just not worth it, in Malta at least. I order everything online, from Play.com, and various Amazon and eBay sites (depending on the DVD I need).

I suppose I might encounter the problem when going to see an animated film in the cinema, alone - but I'm not ashamed, and nobody at the box-office has so far questioned my intentions. I would have gone see Winnie the Pooh alone when it opened here last April. I didn't go only because I didn't feel like shelling out 6 Euros for just 60 minutes of film.

I'll wait for Winnie the Pooh to start showing in my local cheap theatre for which I will only pay 2 Euros.