A Goofy Movie - A Unique Instance of a Non Animated Classic?

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A Goofy Movie - A Unique Instance of a Non Animated Classic?

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I swear I made a topic like this before, but any search I do either returns nothing like this or chokes the search system and results in an error message.

So, I feel that "A Goofy Movie" is a unique 'DisneyToon Studios' movie.

It was partially animated by WDAS as well as Disney Animation France. Admittedly, it was animated by Disney France while they were 'Walt Disney Animation France, S.A.' not 'Walt Disney Feature Animation Paris.'

The former was responsible for:

DuckTales the Movie: Treasure of the Lost Lamp (1990)
TaleSpin (1990, television series)
Darkwing Duck (1991, television series)
Petal to the Metal (1992)
Goof Troop (1992, television series)
A Goofy Movie (1995)

... while the latter:

Runaway Brain (1995, animated short)
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996)
Hercules (1997)
Tarzan (1999)
Fantasia 2000 (1999)
The Emperor's New Groove (2000)
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)
Treasure Planet (2002)
Brother Bear (2003)
Destino (2003, animated short)

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Even so, I feel as though "A Goofy Movie" is a unique instance of a Disney animated film that is a non-Disney Animated Classic, and comes the absolute closest of any non-DAC animated film to deserving DAC status.

Everything else that has/is slated to come out of DisneyToon have been tied to either a Disney Animated Classic (in the form of prequel, midquel, interquel, sequel, spin-off) or a Disney animated TV show.

Now, there are a few other films not directly tied to a Disney film/TV show:

Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas
Mickey · Donald · Goofy: The Three Musketeers
Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas

... but those three were all exclusively animated at DisneyToon Studios.

"A Goofy Movie" is a unique instance of being partially made by an 'actual' Disney animation studio. It was not tied to a TV-show or previous DAC like its predecessors ("DuckTales the Movie: Treasure of the Lost Lamp", "Return of Jafar", 'Gargoyles.')

So why is this not a DAC? Do you agree it is a unique non-DAC feature? I mean, it's obvious why Pixar films are not DACs - they are Pixar classics. Films like 'Nightmare' and "James and the Giant Peach" also were not touched directly by WDAS or one of its satellite studios.

And people argue about "The Wild" or "Valiant" - again, not done by a WDAS studio.

But "A Goofy Movie," from my understanding, had treatment by WDAS in the U.S. as well as WDAS France just before it was officially dubbed that.

What prevents it from being considered a Disney Animated Classic? Would you agree with its retroactive addition to the list?
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I think the mantle of 'Disney Classics' is one that is open to individual interpretation; the only two animated classics I don't like are Dinosaur and Chicken Little and as a result, I don't class either as classics. I certainly enjoy A Goofy Movie more than both of those films, yet I still don't consider it a classic, though you make a good argument to do so.
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DisneyAnimation88 wrote:I think the mantle of 'Disney Classics' is one that is open to individual interpretation; the only two animated classics I don't like are Dinosaur and Chicken Little and as a result, I don't class either as classics. I certainly enjoy A Goofy Movie more than both of those films, yet I still don't consider it a classic, though you make a good argument to do so.
I agree about your feelings for "Chicken Little" and "Dinosaur." That said, while individual interpretation will always be there, and there isn't anything wrong with that, officially I think whatever the studio says is a DAC is a DAC. I think the PR around "Tangled" made that official list very clear.

But, I did like "A Goofy Movie" way more then a number of the official DAC.
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Neal wrote:What prevents it from being considered a Disney Animated Classic?
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Goofy Movie is the most underrated Disney animated film. How they managed to make that one a touching, funny, fresh, relevant film is pretty remarkable.
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Post by Neal »

I find way more teens/college kids know of A Goofy Movie than they do actual DACs. They really seem to connect with it/the songs.

Also, this one was made as a theatrical release which further sets it from other sequels/derivative works as most of those were made to be DTV, and some just ended up becoming big screen movies when they were deemed quality enough.

A Goofy Movie, from my understanding, was to be a theatrical release from the start.
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Like most, I too like this movie very much.

It has that cosy 90's feel to it that is so obviously missing from most
latter movies.

Ducktales was a decent effort too.

More important it stayed fairly close to the original Goof, whereas
Cinders 2 , altough sequel material, just ignored the original altogether.
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This subject has bothered me for a while as well. IMO, I don't see what sets A Goofy Movie and Dinosaur that far apart. I feel as though if Dinosaur is to be considered a DAC then A Goofy Movie should as well. Heck, in some ways I'd say it's overall production is above and beyond some of the DAC's
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Post by RIPJoeRanft »

And I hope we can all agree that An Extremely Goofy Movie paled in comparison to the original. What a letdown, that felt like a walking billboard for the X-Games (although the Goofy romance was pretty cute).
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Even though I think the "Classic" label is a bit pretentious (how many other studios refer to all of their movies as Classics?) if a substantial part of the movie was done by Walt Disney Feature Animation, and the Paris department, then I'd guess it is a Classic, just as Dinosaur was retroactively named. The animation definitely falls in between both studios. It looks far too good to strictly be a Toon Studios production (look at the DuckTales movie, for instance) and even features some CGI (which doesn't look nearly as out of place as some of the background characters in Hunchback, for instance), but it's not as good as some the DACs from that time.

I have to say, I think I love A Goofy Movie more than some DACs, and definitely seen it a lot more than a lot of them as well. Yes, some songs are dangerously close to "ear worm" territory, but if you'd have to compare it to the Classic that also came out in 1995, Pocahontas, A Goofy Movie has a lot more heart, is actually funny, and so on. I know what my favorite is.
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Post by avonleastories95 »

A Goofy Movie (definition; noun)- A wonderful, funny movie. Has a very "feel-good" approach with. You can tell it was made in the 90's. It's not "Goofy" in the least. The only thing "Goofy" about it is Goofy's first feature length movie. Not that it's bad or anything. avonleastories95 loves this movie and thinks it could be right up there with some other DACS.
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Post by FigmentJedi »

Pretty sure Goofy Movie isn't considered part of the canon for it's semi-sequel status to Goof Troop. Even though Peg and Pistol are nowhere to be seen and it's made unclear if they're even living in Spoonerville still.
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