I realize every new one should find a new audience (Daria was for the more dark intellectual crowd, Freaks and Geeks was for the Dazed & Confused, Virgin Suicides crowd). But it bothers me that Glee is a show about outsiders made for the mainstream. A complete contradiction in terms. In fact, it's made for the sort of people Daria (the show, but possibly the character as well) would have mocked.rs_milo_whatever wrote:I mean.. how many times can you do a show about outsiders?
Excellent point. However, if I have you on the correct version of Moulin Rouge- I think that film's a piece of crap. Footloose... I've seen but I can't recall any scene where they re-do a previous song. Rock of Ages- I have no idea what that is. If you're talking about musicals on stage instead of movies, than I feel that's another matter altogether. I never thought of Glee as a musical, though that's probably how it was intended to be viewed. I can admit when someone else might be right.rs_milo_whatever wrote:Besides, without any of that it would just be a concert. That's like saying a show about something can only ever have that kind of content. Covering songs is a very sane idea; can you imagine writing six songs for them to do weekly? Glee clubs and choirs usually cover songs anyway. Not to mention it has been done before in movies like Moulin Rouge and in musicals like Footloose and Rock of Ages.
I just don't believe it's the job of the artists who made these songs in the 70's, 80's, 90's (etc) to give dancers and singers who can't come up with their own material careers just because our culture is on American Idol overload and there isn't enough room on that show for all the people who want to be famous. These people on Glee are just desperate for attention and I don't think they should be riding other people's material to get it. No matter how much of these performances fans think is new and fresh. It digusts me. Deeply. And it doesn't matter to me where it began. Whether it has it feet in musicals or whatever. And I don't care how much time there is with the show to come up with new material. The fact is: what they're doing is too easy and cheap. And too accepted by people who don't care that everyone out there is so Remake-happy. It's also telling how the people who own the show sell it out. So much of it is cut in pieces and handed out via YouTube (from the companies who own the material, not just someone who thought there was a funny quote), the song covers sold via iTunes or whatever, and the show is now a perfect business card for everyone trying to sell their services like those people for Max Factor used to. A bunch of opportunistic leaches in this business are using other people's work to get them noticed. Whether they're doing makeup or choreography or clothes. It's a bad insider's joke waiting to happen. For all this money being made, how much are the original artists really going to get? And what about all this themed-cover stuff? A Glee Tribute to Madonna, Rocky Horror Picture Show, what- Britney Spears? They are petty thieves, so suddenly they have their own Seal of Approval... just because they're so popular the name "Glee" is suddenly regarded as its' own like record company / publishing house? Or, is it just: come up with this kind of thing and it's easier now to advertise more stuff?
Another good argument- I admit. Although I'm a child of the 90's and we watched a lot of 80's movies on VHS. You're right that those 80's-Outcast films weren't obscure at all. But does any of that mean I approved of those movies doing the same thing Glee is doing now in the 80's? No. The difference between the obscure outcast movie or show and the 80's ones however, is in what they did. Daria, like Ghost World years later, just savaged the popular culture and questioned the things teens considered sacred. If American Idol had come out in the 90's, Daria would have shredded it. And Glee owes American Idol bigtime. As well as trashy soap operas, Degrassi- etc. So really, I'm not sure the show is at all fresh. Rather than just superficial, very derivative, and disturbingly easy to swallow for anyone's claims that it's at all about outsiders. Yeah... outsiders... with more expensive clothes, professional makeup and hair jobs, trendy dialogue, singing trendy songs that nobody on the production actually wrote...rs_milo_whatever wrote:And the whole outsider thing, why does it have to be obscure to apply to outsiders? And it's not like they're playing popular characters that pretend to be outcasts, the premise of the show was the same before it became this big. Every teen movie since the 80's has revolved around a popular/outcast theme, and those movies are always big and they do apply to teen's lives. It's not really fair to use that argument against Glee and not that whole plethora of movies.
Consider me lost in translation.
It feels like there aren't that many episodes left now and they haven't showed up all season. Maybe have Chenoweth and Menzel on one episode? 
Too bad Blaine doesn't.
