Well, no one would be a greater expert on what you obviously mean than you are. (That came off mighty insulting, by the way, and I did nothing to warrant the implication; I know what you meant, that doesn't mean I can't disagree with it.)Goliath wrote:That may very well be, but it's a simple pop song. It's a very standard ballad. Well performed, well executed, yes. But there's nothing about it that makes it stand out from the rest of whatever there is on the charts. Obviously, that's what I was going at. Let me put it this way: music as original, groud-breaking and experimental as that of Pink Floyd, The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Jefferson Airplane etc. would nowadays not be in the mainstream. It would not be on the hit charts. It would be 'underground' or 'indie'. That was my point. It's all the same kind of pop nowadays.Lazario wrote:The meaning of music is subjective. Look at how many people were moved to tears by Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful." Based on that, you had better believe that song meant something... to some people. For others, she was still the same tart who just got finished dancing in mud and hoochie-ing around in chaps in a boxing ring (there was mud in one of her videos- right? Who here's an Xtina fan?).
But no matter what you say, you can not cancel out the fact that people make up their own meaning. Use any words you want, but a lot of people disagree that "same sounding" music can't be artistic. Not that most people even judge it that way. If I was a slave to rock music too, I might agree with you (I don't even know who are the big names right now). But if pop were dead, there wouldn't be acts like Goldfrapp. And say what you want, but they're proof that music nowadays is still artistic. If anything about your use of the label artistic means DAMN good. (By the way, I stumbled into a forum that were having one hell of a discussion behind the meaning to their "A&E"... :
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That's artistic, and no one can deny it. If they put half that much thought into the lyrics for their other songs, maybe you should care about them. The lyrics:
"It's a blue, bright blue Saturday, hey hey
And the pain has started to slip away, hey hey
I'm in a backless dress
On a pastel ward that's shining
Think I want you still
But it may be pills at work
Do you really wanna know how I was dancing on the floor
I was trying to phone you when I'm crawling out that door
I'm amazed at you the things you say that you don't do
Why don't you ring
I was feeling lonely, feeling blue
Feeling like I needed you
Like I've woken up surrounded by me
A & E
How did I get to accident and emergency
All I wanted was you to take me out high
I was feeling lonely, feeling blue
Feeling like I needed you
Like I hoped you'd call and hoped you'd see me
A & E" .)
