"Glee" Discussion

[TheSequelOfDisney]

BEST NEWS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no new GLEE episodes until February 8th!!!!

Maybe by then I will be able to free up the space on my DVR by canceling the recording of this show. I only watch a few minutes of the show each week, just the scenes with Jane Lynch, my favorite lesbo.

WRONG-O!!!

Glee returns after the Super Bowl on February 6th. I'm actually really looking forward to the Super Bowl episode. I've read some pretty interesting spoilers, and I think it's going to be really fun especially California Gurls and the Thriller mash-up. I'm not looking forward all that much to the Valentine's Day episode, which is on the 8th. For supposedly being the "Most Famous Love Songs of All Time," there's really only one that is a semi-famous love song. I've never heard of the rest, and at least one of them has nothing to do about love.

[carolinakid]

What are some of the songs for 2/8?

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I'll post the list in white, just in case no one wants to see it:


1. Katy Perry's "Firework," performed by Rachel (Lea Michele)
2. Queen's "Fat Bottomed Girls," performed by Puck (Mark Salling)
3. Michael Jackson's "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)," performed by Artie (Kevin McHale)
4. Babes In Arms' "My Funny Valentine," performed by Tina (Jenna Ushkowitz)
5. Robin Thicke's "When I Get You Alone," performed by Blaine and the Warblers
6. Paul McCartney's "Silly Love Songs," performed by The Warblers


Personally, I'm kind of irked that The Warblers are singing two songs. I don't really like them to begin with, and they seem pretty superflous. They're only around because of the Kurt storyline. I do have to say, though, that I'm really looking forward to the songs Lea and Jenna are singing (even though Firework is definitely overplayed; plus they have a Katy Perry song in the previous episode).

[carolinakid]

I've heard of # 3, 4 & 6......I LOVE #4.....I like #6....#3?...meh!


Oh, and thanks!

[dvdjunkie]

The show that comes on after the Super Bowl is NOT a new show in reality. It is a compilation of things from the season so far, plus some new songs just to keep it interesting.

The First ALL NEW GLEE episode is February 8th. Hopefully this show will be put out of its misery by the end of May.

I try to give this show a chance. I watched it every once in a while hoping that something will interest me besides Jane Lynch.

The "Rocky Horror" show was on the verge of embarrassment for the cast and everyone who had anything to do with it. Their censorship of the songs was laughable, and I am glad that Susan Sarandon decided to not do this show.

"Glee" has its fans (for some unknown reason) and it has its detractors. I think that there are too many other good shows on at the same time and I think that if you are under the age of 25 this show is perfect for you. Me, I would rather not have to groan everytime some kid breaks into song with a full lush orchestra in the background. My high school wasn't like that. If you wanted to break into song, there wasn't any big orchestra to back you, and no one else could dance in the perfect synchronization they seem to do on "Glee". That is probably what bothers me most.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Me, I would rather not have to groan everytime some kid breaks into song with a full lush orchestra in the background. My high school wasn't like that. If you wanted to break into song, there wasn't any big orchestra to back you, and no one else could dance in the perfect synchronization they seem to do on "Glee". That is probably what bothers me most.

Except that rarely happens.

Let's go through the first episode's song list together and see how many times the characters break out into song:

Empire State of Mind - Demonstration/Recruitment of new members
Every Rose Has Its Thorns - Singing in the shower (who doesn't do that?)
Telephone - Singing with iPod
Getting to Know You - Music lesson at Asian camp
Billionaire - An audition
The Power - An audition
Listen - An audition
What I Did For Love - Begins out of the blue, but ends up on the stage, practicing

So, from those performances, only one was actually out of the blue. I could go through the rest of the episodes, but I don't have the time or the patience.

[Disneykid]

"Glee" has its fans (for some unknown reason) and it has its detractors. I think that there are too many other good shows on at the same time and I think that if you are under the age of 25 this show is perfect for you.

My mother's 57 and loves this show, and I was unaware that there was a 25-and-under age limit for Emmy and Golden Globes voters. Condescending, much?

Me, I would rather not have to groan everytime some kid breaks into song with a full lush orchestra in the background. My high school wasn't like that. If you wanted to break into song, there wasn't any big orchestra to back you, and no one else could dance in the perfect synchronization they seem to do on "Glee". That is probably what bothers me most.

I suppose you also groan when the same thing happens in these movies:

http://www.broadway.tv/blog/broadway-ma ... -all-time/

If so, then this isn't the show (or the genre) for you. Obviously you have the right to like or dislike whatever you wish and also have the right to say so. However, considering how often you post in this thread and how often those posts are filled to the brim with moaning over the show's apparent pitfalls, I'm beginning to think you're intentionally doing this to provoke a debate.

[UmbrellaFish]

The show that comes on after the Super Bowl is NOT a new show in reality. It is a compilation of things from the season so far, plus some new songs just to keep it interesting.

You're still wrong. It's a completely new episode and it's the most expensive post-Super Bowl episode in history. It is "ALL NEW."

I won't even adress your criticisms of the show anymore because it's all gone in circles, and quite frankly, your oft-repeated argument still doesn't make any sense as Disneykid pointed out above me.

[Disney's Divinity]

=The "Rocky Horror" show was on the verge of embarrassment for the cast and everyone who had anything to do with it. Their censorship of the songs was laughable, and I am glad that Susan Sarandon decided to not do this show.

Actually, Sarandon stated she would have loved to have been on the show, but they didn't ask her for whatever reason. They probably though, because she was a film actress, she might not want to be on TV. They didn't ask Tim Curry either, I don't think.

Besides, if they did, more people would be complaining about, "Oy! Stop with the guest stars!" If they can get people like Julie Andrews, Anne Hathaway, Kristen Chenoweth, and Carol Burnett, they can guest star every episode for all I care.

I'm so excited to hear "Firework"! I'm disappointed that it's just Michele though. I would like to have had the full-on group treatment of the song. And has it been confirmed that "California Gurlz" will be mashed-up with "Thriller"? Omg, that's horrible! Besides the fact that "CG" is awful, a fad like Katy Perry should not be mixed with Michael Jackson biggest hit. Ugh.

I'm so glad they moved American Idol to another night, so I can see Glee at 8!

[TheSequelOfDisney]

And has it been confirmed that "California Gurlz" will be mashed-up with "Thriller"? Omg, that's horrible! Besides the fact that "CG" is awful, a fad like Katy Perry should not be mixed with Michael Jackson biggest hit. Ugh.

Haha, sorry. I should have been more clear. The Cheerios are dancing/singing California Gurls and there is a mash up of Thriller and Heads Will Roll by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. Yeah, I should have stated that more clearly. I bet you're relieved now!

[dvdjunkie]

NOTE TO TheSequelofDisney:

Nowhere did I say that you had to be 25 to enjoy the show, I am just saying that if you read what it was all about before it premiered on Fox, then you would know that its prime audience is the 13-25 group of males and females. I am sure there are a lot of viewers over the age of 25 who watch the show.

As for your comparison of "Glee" to the Musical Motion Pictures of Hollywood's hayday, you are truly barking up the wrong tree. I love musicals, and am proud to say that I have over a hundred of them in my collection. What I was saying was that when FOX originally announced the show, they said it was about a High School Glee club that was striving for perfection and entering the state championships for Glee clubs. It said nothing about the fact that it was going to be a 'musical' television series.

Do you really think that I am that off-base? I hope not, because I can run circles around most of those people who defend this show as being the "best thing on television". This is not THE BEST, but ONE of the best shows on television. It consistently has good ratings, and will, unfortunately, still be on for the next couple of years. Let's see what happens when these '30-somethings' graduate from High School and a whole new cast comes in.

My criticism of the way they just break into song is very solid. If they are listening to their MP3 player or iPOD, or whatever, they break into song and it just so happens that the whole school yard, class room, wherever they are, can break into song and dance at the same time. If you go to school, does your school have an orchestra that follows you around to back you up when you decide to sing a lyric or a whole song? That's what I am saying about the show.

If they promoted the show as a 'first rate High School musical' with a little drama on the side, I would probably give it a chance again. But they don't. And on Tuesday night there are a lot of other shows with higher ratings than "Glee" that are on, so someone isn't just watching "Glee". I watch "No Ordinary Family" which is on ABC at the same time as "Glee", and record "NCIS" which is on at the same time as "Glee". To each his own on what a person likes or dislikes on television.

I am just bold enough to put it out there that "Glee" is not realistic enough to be believable and aside from Jane Lynch, whom I adore, there isn't too many things going for this show that make me want to watch it exclusively over other television shows that are on at the same time.

I borrowed the season one DVD's from a friend so I could watch the show from the very beginning. I still can say that I am glad that there are other shows on at the same time as "Glee".

[TheSequelOfDisney]

My criticism of the way they just break into song is very solid. If they are listening to their MP3 player or iPOD, or whatever, they break into song and it just so happens that the whole school yard, class room, wherever they are, can break into song and dance at the same time. If you go to school, does your school have an orchestra that follows you around to back you up when you decide to sing a lyric or a whole song? That's what I am saying about the show.

First of all, this is the only thing that you should have noted to me. The first part is in response to Wondy.

Secondly, are we watching the same show? I've never seen, in any episode of glee, where "the whole school yard, class room, wherever they are, can break into song and dance at the same time." And there definitely hasn't been "an orchestra that follows [them] around to back [the students] up when [they] decide to sing a lyric or a whole song." I honestly think you are just doing this to ruffle feathers. At least 90% of the performances are in a setting where it would be normal to sing a song (auditions, teaching, etc.) and the other 10% could be classified as either dream sequences or, yes, the occasional song out of the previously mentioned contexts. If you don't want to watch it, dont. And stop posting in a thread for a show you don't like.

[pinkrenata]

I didn't know Glee was striving for realism.

[Escapay]

What I was saying was that when FOX originally announced the show, they said it was about a High School Glee club that was striving for perfection and entering the state championships for Glee clubs. It said nothing about the fact that it was going to be a 'musical' television series.

I guess Ryan Murphy was using the wrong word when he spoke with The New York Times:

• And while the series includes plenty of singing and dancing and is set in a high school, it is not Disney’s “High School Musical,” Mr. Murphy said, though he admitted he had never seen the Disney juggernaut. Nor is it “Cop Rock” or “Viva Laughlin” or “Eli Stone,” previous network shows that tried and failed to convince audiences that dancing and singing could be a part of a mainstream network series.
  
  “I wanted to do a sort of postmodern musical,” he said. “Fox was not interested, and neither was I, in doing a show where people burst into song.” People do sing, of course, but there are rules: the singers will have to be onstage rehearsing or performing, or a song will come in the form of a fantasy in a character’s head. They are the type of rules that made “Chicago” such a successful film, he said. But “Glee” also draws on “American Idol.”

(Source: New York Times, May 15, 2009)

Murphy also said that Fox approached him to create a show in the vein of their musical hit "American Idol".

• Net is fast-tracking the project -- which revolves around the world of high school glee clubs -- and has ordered four additional scripts beyond the pilot. If all goes as planned, Fox hopes to have the show on the air by March, as a potential companion to "American Idol."
  
  ...
  
  "It made sense for the network with the biggest hit in TV, which is a musical, to do something in that vein," Murphy said. "But it's not a kid show. The adult leads are equal in part to kid leads."
  
  ...
  
  The show's leads won't break out into song, but Murphy said the series will contain at least four songs per episode -- organically sung onstage by the choir. Taking a page from "Idol," the performers will croon popular, well-known tunes.
  
  "No original music is being written," he said. "It's like 'American Idol,' a form of karaoke. People like to see people singing songs they know."

(Source: Variety, July 28, 2008)

Amazingly, in both articles, they state that performances will not be of the "full orchestra and background dancers who know exactly what to do" variety that you claim the show to be. Maybe once you actually watch all of Season 1 from that friend of yours, you'd see that.

albert

[pap64]

If so, then this isn't the show (or the genre) for you. Obviously you have the right to like or dislike whatever you wish and also have the right to say so. However, considering how often you post in this thread and how often those posts are filled to the brim with moaning over the show's apparent pitfalls, I'm beginning to think you're intentionally doing this to provoke a debate.

I believe this is the term you are looking for...

[pap64]

BEST NEWS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no new GLEE episodes until February 8th!!!!

Maybe by then I will be able to free up the space on my DVR by canceling the recording of this show. I only watch a few minutes of the show each week, just the scenes with Jane Lynch, my favorite lesbo.

HOLD IT RIGHT THERE...

OK, this is flat out, unabashed, unadulterated TROLLING.

What is trolling you may ask?

From Wikipedia:
"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

What you have been doing throughout this thread, Bill, is just that: trolling. Usually, the correct response to that is to ignore them. But now it has become apparent that you have nothing better to do than to try and convince everyone that the show sucks, with no apparent success. And it's ALL been thinly veiled trolling. You blame the show for tropes, ideas, and conventions that have been in EVERY SINGLE MUSICAL EVER MADE, from The Jazz Singer to even Camp Rock on Disney Channel. And your counter arguments have been weak so far.

Here's the thing. If you don't like the show, just say it... "I don't like the show. I think its too peppy for my taste and I don't like the music". There, point proven, everyone moves on. But no. You are extremely aware that people LOVE this show around this. You KNOW that people talk about the series every time a new episode airs. You KNOW that Glee news discussion happens on this thread. Don't pretend that you are coming here with innocent intentions. That last paragraph should prove to EVERYONE that what you want to do is troll this thread because apparently there's nothing better to do.

And it's sad too. For someone that claims to be of great age and apparent wisdom you resort to a tactic that is commonly associated with teenagers on the internet. Siren was right. It's amazing that "the kids" have been behaving better than someone that is supposed to be the voice of wisdom.

Next time, rather than using this at the end of every paragraph...



Use this...



Serves the same purpose.

[Luke]

You are kind of meeting that definition, dvdjunkie. Most of us here know your strongly-worded posting style and accept it, but it does seem a bit mean and pointless to keep carping on the show here (while continuing to watch it at least in part, no less). If it is a reasonable discussion/debate you're looking for, feel free to pursue it. But just putting down the show for the heck of it seems to be a thinly-veiled attack on everyone else posting in this thread.

[pinkrenata]

Season 2: Volume 1 review is up:
http://www.dvdizzy.com/glee-season2-volume1.html



The new avatar is Jenkinlicious, Luke!

[rexcrk]

I just got into this show two weeks ago (to the day lol) and I've already watched all 32 currently-available-on-DVD episodes. I love it! It reminds of High School Musical (which I also really like) but... like... not for kids

Brittany is probably my favorite character, she has the best random one-liners and the fact that she still believes in Santa is adorable.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Three of the four songs can be listened here:

http://www.gleethemusic.com/us/episode/ ... wl-shuffle

I have yet to find the Thriller / Heads Will Roll mash-up.


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Need You Now is easily my favorite. Mark and Lea sound great together.