Part of the thing is that of WDW's attractions that are found in Disneyland are found in other WDW parks besides the Magic Kingdom.David S. wrote:I don't know if it could hold EVERYTHING the Imagineers have EVER thought of, since they have cabinets full of thousands of ideas that never have seen the light of day. BUT, in most cases where something in one park closes to make way for something new, yes, I think both could fit.
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No I meant I liked the Casey Jr. Jr. idea. Think about it. It's just the junior version of the train with a shorter stack, and it's a ride meant for kids, for juniors! It would work a lot better.
Because the Fab Five are not going away. They are still staying in the park, we just aren't sure what their new homes will look like yet. Goofy and Dumbo just don't mix.
			
			
									
						
							Because the Fab Five are not going away. They are still staying in the park, we just aren't sure what their new homes will look like yet. Goofy and Dumbo just don't mix.

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Well, I think they really do fit there. I think they fit there more than the forest they are adding to Fantasyland. They never lived in a forest.
They lived on streets, in houses in towns, with shops. That's like Main Street!
They were only in Magic Kingdom before. How was that better than Main Street? They aren't magic like I think of magic.
			
			
									
						
							They lived on streets, in houses in towns, with shops. That's like Main Street!
They were only in Magic Kingdom before. How was that better than Main Street? They aren't magic like I think of magic.

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I didn't say they did fit in the forest. I just don't think that they fit in Main Street, either. They would have to do really deck it out to make it look like the characters.Disney Duster wrote:Well, I think they really do fit there. I think they fit there more than the forest they are adding to Fantasyland. They never lived in a forest.
They lived on streets, in houses in towns, with shops. That's like Main Street!
They were only in Magic Kingdom before. How was that better than Main Street? They aren't magic like I think of magic.
And of course, this means that Walt Disney: One Man's Dream will no longer be able to be moved into this area from the Studios...
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I just had a brilliant idea! What if we put a new house for Mickey over near where The Great Goofini is going to go? That might help justify a bit of the Fab Six's presence in Fantasyland (Mickey and Goofy). We could possibly base that on the old Mickeyville concept, like so:

In fact, I had another idea to sweeten this idea: have the house for ALL the characters there! To avoid crowding issues, we could rotate the characters, so that it's always different. This might help justify the roller coaster being called The Great Goofini, since it will still have a Goofy theme. With this, we can establish a Toontown for the Studios and still give the Fab Six a reliable spot for guests to find them at the Magic Kingdom.
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In fact, I had another idea to sweeten this idea: have the house for ALL the characters there! To avoid crowding issues, we could rotate the characters, so that it's always different. This might help justify the roller coaster being called The Great Goofini, since it will still have a Goofy theme. With this, we can establish a Toontown for the Studios and still give the Fab Six a reliable spot for guests to find them at the Magic Kingdom.
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I always thought that something Mickey-related could fit into Fantasyland easily if they went down the route of tying it to one of Mickey's fairy-tale pieces (Mickey and the Beanstalk, Fantasia etc). It probably would fit into the general theme of fantasy and fairy-tales better than something like Dumbo or Winnie the Pooh (not that they're unwelcome), and it's not as though Mickey hasn't popped up in Fantasyland before in such a form. After all, Disneyland used to have a Christmas shop called "Mickey's Christmas Carol", and Disneyland Paris has a shop in Fantasyland called Sir Mickey's, which is dually themed around Mickey and the Beanstalk and The Brave Little Tailor. Obviously, though, taking this angle and putting it next to a circus could seem a bit of a clash.
			
			
									
						
										
						Good point. And a similar "Sir Mickey's" shop exists in the MK as well, themed to Mickey and the Beanstalk and Brave Little Tailor (it is located between the Snow White ride and the Castle). MK Fantasyland also includes Mickey's Philharmagic which references both the "Fab 5" and Fantasia/Sorcerer's Apprentice, and began life as an animatronic show called Mickey Mouse Revue that ran from 1971-1980 before being shipped to Tokyo Disneyland and playing in their Fantasyland for nearly 30 more years. So yes, the idea of having Mickey/Fab 5 characters in Fantasyland (or in the case of Toontown, adjacent to it) has been around since the beginning of the parks!Wonderlicious wrote:I always thought that something Mickey-related could fit into Fantasyland easily if they went down the route of tying it to one of Mickey's fairy-tale pieces (Mickey and the Beanstalk, Fantasia etc). It probably would fit into the general theme of fantasy and fairy-tales better than something like Dumbo or Winnie the Pooh (not that they're unwelcome), and it's not as though Mickey hasn't popped up in Fantasyland before in such a form. After all, Disneyland used to have a Christmas shop called "Mickey's Christmas Carol", and Disneyland Paris has a shop in Fantasyland called Sir Mickey's, which is dually themed around Mickey and the Beanstalk and The Brave Little Tailor. Obviously, though, taking this angle and putting it next to a circus could seem a bit of a clash.
I always saw Toontown as a logical extension "subland" of Fantasyland*, with it's 20th Century Americana (though Toonish) sets making it different from the European fairytale/storybook settings of Fantasyland. But the elements both lands have in common is whimsy and fantasy; an homage to the characters, stories, locales, and music of Disney animation (the features in Fantasyland and the shorts in Toontown); and being arguably more of an escape from "reality" than the other lands, although all MK lands provide some degree of escapism.
I really wish Toontown could stay!
* Much like the way Frontierland/Liberty Square can be viewed as "sublands" of one larger "metaland". Same for Frontierland/New Orleans Square/Critter Country at Disneyland.
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It's official now SWSA is going away to make way for a princess meet and greet and the mine car coaster is in! It looks like the Cinderella and Aurora realms are no longer in the plan either, I'm kind of sad about that. I am really upset we are losing SWSA, always lose a ride to get a ride   Thank God we are going back to WDW the end of this month so we can enjoy it one final time
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Well, it could be worse. They could've closed down the Snow White ride at Disneyland. Oh, well, at least now Hong Kong isn't the only Disney park now without a Snow White ride. Now if it only could get a Peter Pan ride...WonderlandFever wrote:It's official now SWSA is going away to make way for a princess meet and greet and the mine car coaster is in! It looks like the Cinderella and Aurora realms are no longer in the plan either, I'm kind of sad about that. I am really upset we are losing SWSA, always lose a ride to get a rideThank God we are going back to WDW the end of this month so we can enjoy it one final time
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And the irony here is that, when WDW was being built, the Imagineers initially considered not having any of the original Disneyland dark rides there at all. They considered having Florida's dark rides be themed to different Disney movies (in the case of Snow White, replace it with Sleeping Beauty), but Roy O. Disney intervened and demanded that they remain true to Walt's original Disneyland thinking and retain the Peter Pan, Mr. Toad and Snow White rides for Florida. Nevertheless, they did make sure the rides themselves were not exactly the same as in California. Of course, Mr. Toad is gone now, but that's another story.
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