Tangled Discussion - Part V

[Poody]

Hey. Do you think he'd write a good Scottish score? I mean Pixars' Brave(possibly the next Disney Princess movie-Second CGI one, first Pixar one, first Scottish one-) is coming out in 2012...

I don't think that movie is a musical, right? I wouldn't either consider it a "Princess" movie, yet.... We'll see.

[DancingCrab]

Yeah, I think BRAVE will only be a musical over PIXAR's dead body.

[Fairytales]

Bytheway people, on IMDB there's an topic going about little details you liked in Tangled, things you perhaps wouldn't notice the first time you saw it.

For me these are:
- The fact that at the campfire Flynn touched his healed hand after he said: "Well, you'd be the first, but thank you."
- How Flynn stroked a lock of hair out of Rapunzels face when they're in the cave, right after he says: "It's pitch black down there."
-How Pascal turns red and covers his eyes everytime Rapunzel and Flynn kiss.
- During When will my life begin, Rapunzel sings about baking and has a pie standing on her head and her arms full of plates with food on it. Pascal also sits on her arm and has a cookie in his mouth; it looked so cute!
- Okay this one isn't that small, but I liked this part alot:
Flynn: Well i gotta tell you, i didn't know you had that in you back there, that was pretty... impressive.
Rapunzel: I KNOW!
Flynn: 0_0
Rapunzel: *ahem* I know.
Flynn: *okay then.*

[Fairytales]

Hey. Do you think he'd write a good Scottish score? I mean Pixars' Brave(possibly the next Disney Princess movie-Second CGI one, first Pixar one, first Scottish one-) is coming out in 2012...

I don't think that movie is a musical, right? I wouldn't either consider it a "Princess" movie, yet.... We'll see.

Well I definitely hope for it to be a musical, though there's not much hope for that...

[estefan]

Hey. Do you think he'd write a good Scottish score? I mean Pixars' Brave(possibly the next Disney Princess movie-Second CGI one, first Pixar one, first Scottish one-) is coming out in 2012...

I don't think that movie is a musical, right? I wouldn't either consider it a "Princess" movie, yet.... We'll see.

I think Alan Menken would do a fantastic score for Brave, but Michael Giacchino will probably end up getting the job. He seems to have now joined Randy Newman as Pixar's in-house composer.

Not that I'm complaining since Giacchiano is an excellent composer.

[Haddad28]

Oh hell yeah! According to deadline.com Tangled has surpassed it's massive budget. It grossed 6.5 over the weekend to end up with a domestic gross of $142mil! With a total worldwide gross of $261.8 mil!

It's got no real competition for the next month or so as well! Yogi is falling, Narnia is slowly going along, and Gullivers Travels is bombing out as well! Tangled's only opened to 18 territories, still leaving more than 50% of the international market left to open in. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if this movie hits $500mil by the end of its run

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/
That's the link if anyone wants it for the numbers

[Fairytales]

Oh hell yeah! According to deadline.com Tangled has surpassed it's massive budget. It grossed 6.5 over the weekend to end up with a domestic gross of $142mil! With a total worldwide gross of $261.8 mil!

It's got no real competition for the next month or so as well! Yogi is falling, Narnia is slowly going along, and Gullivers Travels is bombing out as well! Tangled's only opened to 18 territories, still leaving more than 50% of the international market left to open in. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if this movie hits $500mil by the end of its run

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/
That's the link if anyone wants it for the numbers

Well they have made 1 million profit! Is it still on number 1 in the USA box office?

[Linden]

Tangled surpassed its budget?!!! YES!

I saw Tangled on Thanksgiving (awhile ago, I know), but with finals and Christmas, I didn't have time to post my thoughts. Here goes.

First of all, I went into the theatre hating the advertising campaign but hoping that it was all a trick. I knew that quite a few people liked it, so I went to see it with moderate expectations. And Tangled surpassed them. I felt that the opening sequence was a little hard to get immersed in, but after a few minutes, I was there. After half an hour I leaned back in my chair and thought, "Thank you, God. This is just what I wanted." Obviously, I really liked it.
That said, there were a couple things that didn't meet my expectations. Rapunzel is good, but not great. She's really cute, but her eyes are a bit much. I loved the scenes in the tower, her reprise of "When Will My Life Begin," and the conflicted emotions scene just following it. She seems like a uniqe character in them. But once she hits the road with Flynn, she's a little too much like Ariel or Giselle. I still like her, though; I just felt like she wasn't original the rest of the time. I didn't really like Pascal. I felt like he was unnecessary. The little old man. He bothered me big-time. And I hated the fact that HE'S THE LAST PERSON YOU SEE! I did think he was funny in the breakout scene, but that was it.
The songs were below par, I thought. They're not as bad as some people say, but, honestly, they could have been way better. I agree that the emotion in Mandy's voice is very clear (esp. in WWMLB reprise), and her voice is unique and less perfect than the other "princesses." That's not what I have a problem with. It's the lyrics. The lyrics seem very clichéd, especially in lines like "And it's warm and real and bright..." The tunes of the song and the instrumentation are lovely, but the words are kind of amateur. I didn't like the montage that when along with "Mother Knows Best," but I think it will grow on me, now that I know the words to the song. Btw, did the tune to MKB seem Sondheimesque to anyone else?
They only other thing I disliked was the overly long shot of Mother Gothel falling at the end. It was a stunning shot, and I had to admire the lighting and everything, but it was too long. Oh, and I didn't lilke how Pascal trips Mother Gothel. Couldn't they have Rapunzel's hair trip her instead of a supposedly loveable sidekick?
I think that's everything. Anything I didn't mention, I was pleased with. Overall, I rate it at 8 out of 10. It's Disney's best solo movie in a long time. I will definitely buy it. I think Tangled has entered my Not Quite Favourites But Very Enjoyable category.

[Goliath]

Just to add, for me personally, I don’t think nostalgia has anything to do with it. I absolutely adored “That’s How You Know” in Enchanted when I first heard it (I wanted to pause and rewind that 1500 times; I'm sure I came close). It's become a part of my top ten of all Disney songs. I even enjoyed "Little Patch of Heaven" from HOTR pretty well.

Though I didn't want to rewind it over and over again and it's not in my Top 10, I agree with your remarks on 'That's how you know'. It immediately got stuck into my mind and wouldn't go away... unlike any of the songs in Rapunzel, which I had forgotten about before we left the theater. I think HOTR is a horrible film, but that song is the one thing I like about it. (Although I think Menken's version at the piano, at the end of the documentary on the Aladdin dvd, is the best.)

[Sotiris]

I think HOTR is a horrible film, but that song is the one thing I like about it. (Although I think Menken's version at the piano, at the end of the documentary on the Aladdin dvd, is the best.)

You like only that one song? How about "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again"?

[Prince Edward]

Oh hell yeah! According to deadline.com Tangled has surpassed it's massive budget. It grossed 6.5 over the weekend to end up with a domestic gross of $142mil! With a total worldwide gross of $261.8 mil!

It's got no real competition for the next month or so as well! Yogi is falling, Narnia is slowly going along, and Gullivers Travels is bombing out as well! Tangled's only opened to 18 territories, still leaving more than 50% of the international market left to open in. I honestly wouldn't be suprised if this movie hits $500mil by the end of its run

http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/
That's the link if anyone wants it for the numbers

Well they have made 1 million profit! Is it still on number 1 in the USA box office?

No, it's no longer the number 1 movie in America. Tron: Legacy and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader both opened as number 1, and maybe some other movies as well have been on top of the box office since Tangled, I can't remember. Now it's Meet the Fockers (*puke!*) that is on top. Rottentomatoes.com, IMDB.com, BoxOfficeMojo.com etc is all great sites if you want to know more about the box office:)

[estefan]

To add to the awesomeness of Tangled's box-office, it's also the highest-grossing film in the top ten. I can see it grabbing a hold of the family audience during January and coming close to $200 million.

[Victurtle]

Well they have made 1 million profit! Is it still on number 1 in the USA box office?

No, it's no longer the number 1 movie in America. Tron: Legacy and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader both opened as number 1, and maybe some other movies as well have been on top of the box office since Tangled, I can't remember. Now it's Meet the Fockers (*puke!*) that is on top. Rottentomatoes.com, IMDB.com, BoxOfficeMojo.com etc is all great sites if you want to know more about the box office:)

You mean Little Fockers

I'm not too sure it's made a profit yet, just that it's grossed more than it's (disputable) budget. Overseas gross shouldn't be treated the same way as domestic gross and we are not sure if the budget includes advertising costs. I once read for a movie to be considered profitable, it should gross more than double it's budget to cover all costs. Having said that, Disney has probably made a tonload from all the merchandise it is selling, and well, Tangled still has a loooong way to go There's no doubt it will be a financial success in the long run.

[Semaj]

At this point, Tangled has made more money domestically than any Disney in-house feature since Lilo & Stitch.

Overall, it still needs to catch up with the competition.

[Rapunzel]

Maximus I admit bothered me for a bit, but he grew on me by the end of the movie. I don't like how the movie dives into the trope of "all animals are dogs" as Maximus behaved like a dog (funny enough, in Dreamworks's dragons, Toothless acts like a cat...).

I was a little put off by him acting SO much like a blood hound tracker too. Seems they could have played him off as searching without all the sniffing around at the floor. Granted, he is a horse and they didn't have him find Flynn, so his nose must not work as well as a dogs (which is appropriate at least).

But really, I still liked him a lot. You are just not the only one who thought it was "off" to make him so dog like.

[Rapunzel]

Listen, you are all hit by nostalgia. If you could just open your head for new things you will notice that Tangled has great songs + superb score in it.
You can't say that 'Be our guest' doesn't slow the movie, or 'Part of your world'. (actually, with the former, I always get the trigger to fastforward). Though both songs affect the movie in some way.

I think that in Tangled the songs come right in time - none of them are slowing the movie, nor trying to hard.
The part where she leaves the tower - this is where she needs to sing, and you can hear her excitement - it's awsome! Or the part where she meets Gothel in the woods... This gives me the chills..
And they are all beautiful! I mean, you should just watch it again, or hear it on youtube. It's just not fair that you critisize them, since you've heard them once! Many of you have seen B&TB like hundred times!!!

'I see the light' IS an 'it' song. And it's a great song. Very touching. And all the lyrics just contribute to the film's flowingness, I love them (who's responsible for this?).

I find the score itself better than Aladdin's for example, which I can't recall music that caught my ear. 'Kingdom Celebration', on the contrary, will always be in my heart.
But we should just stop those comparisons, because this is what ruining the excitement of the movie, and it never ends.

I loved it! I think I could watch this movie over and over again, and I know many of you would do it too.

Another thing I have to say:
Why aren't people here talking about the movie itself? I mean the qualities of it, likes, dislikes.. I see here very few that touch this issue. Many have just marked it with a V and moved on to the next movie. Many just want more and more pictures, videogames etc. But there is never a serious discussion about the movie itself. Too bad guys..

Everything is your opinion or our opinion. You might see Be Our Guest and Part of that World as slowing down the movie and another person might think they are the best parts and that some of Tangled's music slows things too much. You can't just tell someone that this is how it is when it is only your opinion vs theirs.

Personally, I loved Part of Your World from the very first time I heard it. I left the theatre trying to sing it. Same thing happened in Aladdin and to a lesser degree Beauty and the Beast. That hasn't happened with Tangled's songs. So it is NOT just nostalgia. It is a matter of what I like. My taste and my opinion. You are lecturing everyone yet you don't know how everyone reacted to the other movies the first time. You are saying we have closed minds if we don't like it as much. That is just wrong.

You are also doing the SAME thing you are telling everyone not to do. You are comparing movies. You are also asking why we are not saying our likes and dislikes about them movie and at the same time you complained about people who are saying what they dislike. Argh! Can't have it both ways.



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[Goliath]

No, it's no longer the number 1 movie in America. Tron: Legacy and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader both opened as number 1, and maybe some other movies as well have been on top of the box office since Tangled, I can't remember. Now it's Meet the Fockers (*puke!*) that is on top. Rottentomatoes.com, IMDB.com, BoxOfficeMojo.com etc is all great sites if you want to know more about the box office:)

How is Tron: Legacy less '*puke*-worthy' than Little Fockers (as it's correctly called)? As much as I think Fockers is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to movies, at least it has Dustin Hoffman, Robert De Niro and Jessica Alba...

You like only that one song? How about "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again"?

Can't even recall how any of the other songs in HOTR go...

[Sotiris]

You like only that one song? How about "Will the Sun Ever Shine Again"?

Can't even recall how any of the other songs in HOTR go...

You should give that song a try.

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Personally, it's my favourite song from the film. My favourite anything really from Home on the Range. In my opinion, it's the worst DAC of the 2000s decade...at least.

[sunhuntin]

HOTR is the only stand alone DAC missing from my collection. i can stomach watching it, but not enough to spend $15NZD on it. lol

i just saw a tangled advert on tv for the first time... finally!! its due here in jan i think, but we saw previews at the cinema when we went to ts3, which was june?

[pap64]

Regarding Home on the Range: In the past I've said that it is one of the most underrated films in the Disney canon, and I stand by that. I mean, sure, I can see how it wouldn't everyone's favorite Disney film as it plays with a formula unknown to the company, and there are indeed more misses than hits. But I wouldn't call it THE worst animated movie ever made, nor the worst Disney film yet. I really like the music in the movie, and the animation style is very captivating in a 1940's package film sort of way.

Going back to Tangled, while reading the art of book I got very upset at some of the more underused elements of the film, mainly the pub thugs. You see these wonderful drawings, concept art and detailed descriptions of these guys, and yet in the movie they appeared for I believe three scenes: the Snuggly Ducking, the raid at the castle and the ending. They have these great back stories that went largely unexplored, and largely served as visual jokes rather than something useful to the plot.

In the past, I've said that Princess and the Frog had pacing issues. While that remains true, I think that movie used its characters better. Some may think that many of them got annoying, but everyone gets proper screen time, everyone gets a big scene and everyone has major speaking roles. At the end of the day, I grew to love them more than some of the side characters in Tangled. And I think that's why Tangled hasn't captivated me as much as Princess and the Frog.

Oh don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed it greatly, and like I said before, it has more "it" scenes than Princess and the Frog. But you can see the scars of its troubled production throughout its running time.