Bambi: Diamond Edition Discussion - March 1, 2011

[MJW]

Can anyone confirm that Bambi 2 is getting released on Blu-ray in the US? So far, I haven't found it for preorder anywhere...

[REINIER]

This is by far the worst blue cover sofar, it makes me want to dubble dip the dvd just for the cover alone...or is that their plan all along

[Coolmanio]

BAMBI II: SPECIAL EDITION BONUS COMPILATION

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/AVV275186

Runtime Component title
00:02:08:06 "SING THE DAY" (DELETED SONG)
00:08:15:02 THE LEGACY CONTINUES
00:03:42:12 DISNEY SKETCH PAD

If there was any doubt about a re-release of Bambi II.

[MJW]

If there was any doubt about a re-release of Bambi II.

Wow, I was wondering if those covers had been faked, but I guess not! I wonder if the US will see this release the same time the rest of the world does. First we get skipped over for Dumbo (which will hopefully be out in 2011) and then we don't get the BATB sequels either (not sure if that is a disappointment to everyone, but I probably would get The Enchanted Christmas). I haven't seen Bambi II up for pre-order on any US sites yet...

[Lorddh]

I'm in love with the cover for Bambi Diamond.
I'm surprise they decided to go with that cover and not a sooo kiddish one.

[Escapay]

BBFC classifications coming in (spelling errors corrected)

BAMBI: DIAMOND EDITION BLU-RAY RELEASE BONUS DISC 2

00:03:08:16 (BAMBI: DIAMOND EDITION BLU-RAY RELEASE BONUS DISC 2 - BAMBI FIRST SNOW WINTER GRASS)
00:04:53:04 (BAMBI: DIAMOND EDITION BLU-RAY RELEASE BONUS DISC 2 - BAMBI STUCK ON A REED TWO LEAVES)
00:01:02:02 (BAMBI: DIAMOND EDITION BLU-RAY RELEASE BONUS DISC 2 - DIANE DISNEY INTRODUCTION)
01:31:58:01 BAMBI (INSIDE WALT'S STORY MEETINGS)

Odd that the "Inside Walt's Story Meetings" feature is 21 minutes longer than the film itself. It could be that the additional 21 minutes are what makes it "enhanced" (similar to how there are now "enhancement pods" for the Alien Anthology documentaries). The first deleted scene is a combination of "Bambi's First Snow" and "Winter Grass" from the Platinum (the running time doesn't include Andreas Deja's 30-second intro), while the second looks to be the two "new" deleted scenes: "Bambi Stuck on a Reed" and "Two Leaves". No word on what the deleted song is, though I still think it'll be the "Rain Song" that was on the laserdisc (well, within the making-of featurette) but not on the DVD. All that needs to be classified is the aforementioned deleted song, the Blu-Ray galleries, and whatever they port over for "Classic DVD Features" (my guess: Inside the Disney Archives, Disney Time Capsule, Tricks of the Trade excerpt, and trailers. Maybe the documentary since we don't seem to be getting a new one).

albert

[Disney Duster]

What happened to the deleted scene with Bambi and a bee?

[KCota15]

Goddamn you blu-ray snobs drive me nuts! you guys are all going crazy over a movie that already got a great dvd release, and now you wanna buy it again and go all crazy because the cover sucks! cmon.. and stop complaining about Bambi 2 or whatever, blu ray isnt even a big difference.. just a TINY bit of better picture and sound is not gonna increase the quality of the movie itself dramatically.. goddamn. just be thankful to have the movie out to the public at all.

thats my 2 cents.. now let the hate replies begin

[Haddad28]

Goddamn you blu-ray snobs drive me nuts! you guys are all going crazy over a movie that already got a great dvd release, and now you wanna buy it again and go all crazy because the cover sucks! cmon.. and stop complaining about Bambi 2 or whatever, blu ray isnt even a big difference.. just a TINY bit of better picture and sound is not gonna increase the quality of the movie itself dramatically.. goddamn. just be thankful to have the movie out to the public at all.

What you said right there is, sorry for my french, a load of crap. A "tiny" bit better picture and sound? Have you even compared a DVD to Blu-ray film at all? I sat down with my 6 year cousin and watched Beauty and the Beast, although she's seen it several times, the first thing she said to me was "Wow, the colours are so bright". I've never been able to sit down and watch Dumbo in its entirety before, there's something about it that just never clicked with me, anyway I saw it for the first time in it's full length just last week when I watched it on blu. It really does help captivate and retain audiences, the attention to colour and detail are mesmerizing!

Now i'm by no means a blu-ray "snob", but if it annoys you so much why bother coming onto the forums? All you're going to receive is backlash and hate.

[BK]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but this is the list of Bambi Platinum bonus features;

Inside Walt's Story Meetings (61:10)

Deleted Scenes
-Intro to Winter Grass with Andreas Deja (0:30)
-Winter Grass (0:37)
-Bambi's First Snow (2:30)

Games & Activities
The Forest Adventure
DisneyPedia: Bambi's Forest Friends (4:10)
What's Your Season?
Disney Storytime: Thumper Goes Exploring
Virtual Forest

Backstage Disney
The Making of Bambi: A Prince is Born (53:00)
Restoring Bambi (5:55)
The Legacy Continues: Sneak Peek at Bambi II (4:45)
Disney Time Capsule-1942: Year of Bambi (4:35)
Tricks of the Trade (7:17)
Inside the Disney Archives (8:40)
The Old Mill [1937] (9:03)
1942 Original Theatrical Trailer (2:11)

Art of Bambi
-Concept Art (52 stills)
-Story Sketches (37 stills)
-Colour Keys & Backgrounds (35 stills)
-Poster Gallery (5 stills)

Character Design
-Bambi (24 stills)
-Bambi's Mother and Father (9 stills)
-Flower (6 stills)
-Friend Owl (15 stills)
-Thumper (8 stills)
-Faline (5 stills)
-Production Stills (18 stills)

New Blu-Ray Features
Stuck On a Reed/Two Leaves (4:53)
Diane Disney Intro (1:02)

Bold text are features confirmed by the BBFC and thus *should* make it on the Blu next year.

I don't think they've much left to classify; the entire Games section was redundant I'm assuming? They will definitely not have the Bambi 2 sneak peek; which actually I think is on the Bambi 2 disc funnily enough. Restoring should also be dropped though it should be updated if anything.

So the only things left are the galleries and Time Capsule, am I right?

I don't own Bambi Platinum evidently and I don't even recall seeing Bambi in full so next year's release is keenly anticipated by myself.

[Escapay]

They will definitely not have the Bambi 2 sneak peek; which actually I think is on the Bambi 2 disc funnily enough.

Both share the same name ("The Legacy Continues") and the same interview sessions with the participants. But the Bambi II featurette also has additional participants and different soundbytes with the people who appeared in the sneak peek version. Also, it's about twice as long, which isn't much as the sneak peek was a little under 5 minutes, while the featurette is 8 minutes.

Either way, the Bambi II sneak peek is likely not going to be on the Blu-Ray for Bambi.

So the only things left are the galleries and Time Capsule, am I right?

Yes.

I'm surprised the Time Capsule wasn't classified, but given how there were mixed reactions to it (some thought it to be stupid, some thought it informative but fluffy, some hoped it'd be on future sets too, etc.) I'm guessing Disney doesn't intend to include it. Pity too, I loved the idea and hoped it'd be on all Disney releases. Especially since several live-action films had "Disney Studio Album", which focused solely on Disney films/shorts/TV/theme parks that were in production or released that year.

Also, the Diane Disney Miller intro is new, she wasn't on the previous DVD. Actually, aside from interviews in Walt: The Man Behind the Myth and a few Treasures sets, I don't think I've ever seen her in interviews for any Disney movies until recently (she'll be in the "Walt Disney Family Museum" featurette for Fantasia).

albert

[The_Iceflash]

@BK, I wish they would stop teasing us with the shorts and gives a proper restored set of shorts in HD. Silly Symphonies in HD would be amazing!

[BK]

@BK, I wish they would stop teasing us with the shorts and gives a proper restored set of shorts in HD. Silly Symphonies in HD would be amazing!

Have any of them been converted to HD though?

I know there was one on 'A Bug's Life' but that's all I recall.

I know all the old non-Platinums, non-Disney Renaissance, have at least one if not two because Disney are too lazy to create any real features.

Bambi should because it's bonus features seem a little on the skimpy side at the moment, it's Platinum release was too anyway and since this is mere porting, well...

Anyone know if there was anything on the LaserDisc?

Also, they have dropped the Introduction by Andreas Deja (0:30) from Winter Grass since Albert confirmed that Diane's intro is new.

[Escapay]

The laserdisc contained a 15-minute featurette called "Bambi: The Magic Behind the Masterpiece" (1997), which featured interviews with Peter Behn (Thumper), Ollie Johnston, Eric Larson, and Frank Thomas. But it likely won't be carried over the way that many of the laserdisc documentaries aren't carried over.

BBFC didn't pass anything for Bambi today, so the Deja intro may not be carried over.

albert

[KubrickFan]

Goddamn you blu-ray snobs drive me nuts! you guys are all going crazy over a movie that already got a great dvd release, and now you wanna buy it again and go all crazy because the cover sucks! cmon.. and stop complaining about Bambi 2 or whatever, blu ray isnt even a big difference.. just a TINY bit of better picture and sound is not gonna increase the quality of the movie itself dramatically.. goddamn. just be thankful to have the movie out to the public at all.

thats my 2 cents.. now let the hate replies begin

Yeah, five times the resolution and lossless audio are a small difference . And why should we be glad that a studio releases their movies? That's what they do.

[Old Fish Tale]

'Bambi and the Great Prince of the Forest' high definition trailer! It looks amazing!

[geniuswalt]

Digitalbits.com talks of an April 19th 2011 release...although they say they are going to double check that with Disney

[MutantEnemy]

That date is for the DVD only edition.

[Mickeyfan1990]

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=5600

"Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment has officially announced and detailed the Blu-ray release of Bambi, which as previously reported (see Blu-ray.com, November 5) will come out in a Diamond Edition BD/DVD pack on March 1, 2011. This will be the first Disney BD with the new "Second Screen" technology, which according to the studio "will further transform the at-home movie watching experience by empowering viewers with the ability to engage with film content on multiple media platforms and bring them to life in their own hands at the touch of a button."

By simply downloading the new Disney Second Screen App onto an internet-connected computer or iPad and synching it to the movie, consumers will instantly be able to dive deeper into the film by engaging with fun interactive elements like animated flipbooks, galleries, photos, trivia and more.

Complete special features include:
Inside Walt's Story Meetings-Enhanced Edition (new): A multi-tiered, interactive story-telling experience. Go back in time with dramatic voice re-enactments of the moments with Walt that led to the creation of this classic film.
Two never-before-seen deleted scenes (new)
Deleted song: "Twitterpated" (new)
Blu-ray Galleries (new)
Disney's Big Book of Knowledge: Bambi Edition (new)— An interactive educational gaming experience that uses the film as a learning tool. Players can customize their own Big Book of Knowledge and learn all about forest creatures, seasons and more. Each time a player completes a task, they are rewarded with new stickers to decorate their Big Book of Knowledge.
The Making of 'Bambi': A Prince Is Born— A comprehensive look at the making of Bambi covers the story, the characters, the actors, the art design, the music and the history of Walt Disney's classic film using behind the scenes footage, production stills, animation, artwork and multiple interviews with performers and behind the scenes participants.
Tricks of the Trade (excerpt)— In an episode from the 1957 Disneyland TV show, Walt narrates the story of the multiplane camera, an animation innovation crucial to the production of Bambi.
Inside the Disney Archives— Disney Supervising Animator Andreas Deja guides viewers through Disney's Animation Research Library, where artwork from past Disney animated feature films is stored, including early story sketches of Bobo the rabbit," (who became Thumper), glass paintings made for the multiplane camera and more.
The Old Mill— Winner of the 1937 Academy Award for Best Short Subject/Cartoon, The Old Mill was a testing ground for several techniques critical to Walt's artistic vision for Bambi, including the multiplane camera, animating realistic animals and experimenting with such natural occurrences such as wind, rain and lightning.
DisneyPedia: Bambi's Forest Friends

Note: the out-of-scale artwork leaked earlier is final"

[David S.]

Goddamn you blu-ray snobs drive me nuts! you guys are all going crazy over a movie that already got a great dvd release, and now you wanna buy it again and go all crazy because the cover sucks! cmon.. and stop complaining about Bambi 2 or whatever, blu ray isnt even a big difference.. just a TINY bit of better picture and sound is not gonna increase the quality of the movie itself dramatically.. goddamn. just be thankful to have the movie out to the public at all.

What you said right there is, sorry for my french, a load of crap. A "tiny" bit better picture and sound? Have you even compared a DVD to Blu-ray film at all? I sat down with my 6 year cousin and watched Beauty and the Beast, although she's seen it several times, the first thing she said to me was "Wow, the colours are so bright". I've never been able to sit down and watch Dumbo in its entirety before, there's something about it that just never clicked with me, anyway I saw it for the first time in it's full length just last week when I watched it on blu. It really does help captivate and retain audiences, the attention to colour and detail are mesmerizing!

To be fair, the current BDs of both movies you mentioned are using a different transfer than the old DVDs did. Just as when the Pinocchio Platinum came out and people were raving about how stunning the Lowry BD transfer looked compared to the older DVD. Well, that same Lowry transfer was also used for the Platinum DVD and looks stunning there, too!

I am not doubting that BD makes a difference, especially on a large HDTV, but I'm just saying the transfers/restorations being compared between the two formats should be the same. Because I have often noticed a HUGE difference between two different transfers of the same film (regarding colors, lack of grain, etc) even when they are both on DVD. (such as with Pinocchio, and I get the impression the new Dumbo transfer used on the overseas BD/DVD will make a dramatic difference - in EITHER format.)

Now i'm by no means a blu-ray "snob", but if it annoys you so much why bother coming onto the forums? All you're going to receive is backlash and hate.

Last I checked, this is UltimateDisney.com / DVDizzy.com, not bluray.com.

So there should be room on the forums for fans of either format, including those of us happily sticking with DVD and no interest whatsoever in BD, without being greeted by "backlash and hate".