Post ur Disney princess collection!

[Elladorine]

Ahem...

I said:

"He likely browsed the pages that didn't have the illustrations. Don't forget that he wasn't that interested and just wanted to tease Belle about it."

Well, according to the commentary he was looking for a centerfold.

[tightlacedboots]

pap, nice speech, but when you say banning do you mean in an individual's home? Cuz I don't think anyone here is suggesting these movies be banned.

[pap64]

pap, nice speech, but when you say banning do you mean in an individual's home? Cuz I don't think anyone here is suggesting these movies be banned.

Yes, I mean individual homes. I have read stories of parents who ban ANYTHING they deem unacceptable, due to religion, political beliefs, personal ideas, or because they want to raise the perfect child.

[Disney Duster]

tightlacedboots, oh...well, I guess I think that if they become princesses, they are destined to be, so, they are. There's this whole idea of "being born to be a princess" and being like a princess even though you're not offcially. If you already got that, sorry, just checking.

Well, Belle's mind was certainly expanded more and more challenged by reading, but she would only get educated on what she was reading so she'd be educated on fairy tales but the past princesses were "educated on fairy tales" by living them, then!

About your son, I did not intend stupid at all, I would never ever do that, please never think that. If he comes from you he is probably a smart cookie. I was just concerned that if he couldn't take care of a DVD he wasn't ready for such a big childhood milestone as the potty but as long as he's ready.

I think we got off the wrong foot, too, sorry. There's a lot of Disney movies with princesses, to not like some would be missing on a lot, lol.

Goliath, first, I don't loathe Tiana or the film. But dislike them a lot, that's true, lol.

As for the "wrong message" thing, well, who can say what the right message is? Who are you to tell any girl what she should be? You're just as bad then. What should really happen is they should have a very diverse group that shows the girls doing all kinds of things, liking science and fashion, cooking and building. You can't tell some girl she must defy gender expectations if she likes to sew.

By the way, a queen was the old day equivalent (as close as you could get) to being a president. Those Disney Princesses became queens.

As for Cinderella working for what she wanted, yes she did. First of all it's possible she was working to keep her home or even so her family would be nice to her, but when the ball, something she really wanted (and even her chance at making everything better ) came along, she said she should go, so she was told to work for it. And she did, she worked for it very hard. And she failed and needed some help from some magic, and some friends, and a prince. Just how Tiana failed and needed help from some magic and friends and a prince, or must I remind you again of her giving the money to the bankers...with her prince and a threatening alligator?

Escapay, well first, Cinderella did not stop believing after she didn't make it in time for the carriage's arrival. She didn't break down yet.

Cinderella believed that if she gave out good to others, it would come back to her, and it did. Within the realm of the film, Cinderella followed the rules of fairy tale magic, she believed and it came. Real world rules are different, but if loomis talked to the right people, he may have found those who could help him become a tree. Yes, Cinderella works in the real world. Of course, she didn't believe she would become a tree, and what happened to her is much more real than loomis belief actually. Anyway, loomis could have become a tree, just as actors believe they are the characters, and they are.

So what did Belle do? She read books, believing someday what happened in them could happen to her. She rode Phillipe to save her father, believing he was in trouble. She put herself in her father's place, believing it would make her absolutely miserable for the rest of her entire life (well, hopefully she believed it wouldn't be that bad, or maybe she'd escape some day). Then she fell in love with the beast, even though before she believed that he was bad, but she later believed he was good, though you could say he proved it. Then she said she loved him, believing...maybe it would help? Or maybe because he was dying she believed she had to let him know that, or she believed it was her goodbye. Well, if it was the former it actually did help, if it was the latter, she was wrong.

[DisneyAnimation88]

[quote]By the way, a queen was the old day equivalent (as close as you could get) to being a president. Those Disney Princesses became queens.
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I'm British and we have a queen so it's not really an old thing.

Of all the Disney princesses, I would, controversially, go for Tiana as the best role model. Regardless of talking animals and voodoo, she had work ethics and the right attitude. I suppose she most resembled the aspirational women of today before she got turned into a frog and all the magic stuff hanppened.

[stitchje1981]

Of all the Disney princesses, I would, controversially, go for Tiana as the best role model. Regardless of talking animals and voodoo, she had work ethics and the right attitude. I suppose she most resembled the aspirational women of today before she got turned into a frog and all the magic stuff hanppened.

I totally agree with you!!!
I just thought it was so beautiful and well said of Tiana's dad that the wishing star only takes you part of the way, that you've got to do most of the work also to get you there! Although I loooooooooove Charlotte's scéne when she wishes on that star ( for naveen to arrive) while she thought it was just for" baby's and CRAZY people"

As far as princesses go I think Cinderella earnes it also, being a slave in her own house, a maid if you will. Bad things happen and still she keeps smiling and doing her "job" while at the end everything turns out great for her...
Or Ariel is what I think a great princess as well, she' s a teenage headstrong girl but not spoiled! Like in real live most teenagers with wealthy parents are... She fights for what she believes in and is willing to go all the way => give up singing and trading her voice for Eric who she has to fight for!

[Wonderlicious]

So what did Belle do?

Belle wanted to be a tree!

Belle believed she could be a tree!

Belle became a tree!

Belle got chopped down.

Belle became a chair!

Belle didn't want to be a chair!

Belle wished this predicament would end!

Belle believed this predicament would end!

Goldilocks sat on the chair and it broke, ending Belle's predicament!

Belle became firewood for the Three Bears.

[Disney Duster]

Well, what I don't like about Tiana is she didn't give herself much time for fun or dreaming. And now that I think about it, it was really weird for her to want to make her dad's dream come true, and listened to his advice to work hard, but she wouldn't listen to his advice about wishing on the star until as a last resort. It's just that she made herself have such a painful life, sleeping for only about one minute a day (surely she didn't do this all the time, she would die!), all because she felt she had to have the restaraunt so soon, when she was still so young, and had plenty of time. She didn't play with the bubbles or do things Cinderella or Snow White did to have a little fun while she worked. And then she seemed so dense when she didn't get Mama Odie's "Dig a Little Deeper" message at first. And then when she had Prince Naveen and her restaraunt building, she decided to fix the restaraunt completely by themselves instead of use help and money that they had.

Tiana is like a Disney princess who does things the opposite of what a princess would do and is about. The reason she's liked as a princess is because she's so not a princess. But I don't get why she's liked, because I found her work ethic to be "all work and no play" and just too extreme. She was also pretty bland and boring, especially when compared to all her much more fun co-stars. Though, this is going to sound weird, I liked her personality in her voice acting, if that makes any sense.

Anyway, I agree what you said about Ariel, except I think you could call her spoiled. She has so much, but she wants more. Not that I blame her, her passion was her passion and you can't help that, but she acted like her life, which was a good one, wasn't good at all.

[DisneyAnimation88]

But isn't that what makes the character unique? A lead female character doesn't necessarily have to always want to be a princess, they can simply wish to be successful through their own hard work.

[quote]Tiana is like a Disney princess who does things the opposite of what a princess would do and is about. The reason she's liked as a princess is because she's so not a princess. But I don't get why she's liked, because I found her work ethic to be "all work and no play" and just too extreme.[/quote]

Exactly you might not like her for that reason but others will. I thought it was quite a refreshing thing for Disney to create a character like this, one who is not simply waiting for something to happen but is willing to go out and get it, not matter what it takes.

[Scarred4life]

Well, what I don't like about Tiana is she didn't give herself much time for fun or dreaming.

And someone could just as easily say that they don't like Cinderella or Snow White because they spent too much time dreaming.

And now that I think about it, it was really weird for her to want to make her dad's dream come true, and listened to his advice to work hard, but she wouldn't listen to his advice about wishing on the star until as a last resort.

But it wasn't until she was older that she listened to both pieces of advice- about wishing on stars and working hard. At the beginning of the movie when she does wish on the star, she was a young child, and children typically dream more than adults. And in the other instance that she wished on a star was a last resort, because she knew she couldn't get the payment for the restaurant in time. Plus, the way I see it was that after her fathers death, she became more motivated to build the restaurant and follow his advice.

And then she seemed so dense when she didn't get Mama Odie's "Dig a Little Deeper" message at first.

This I agree with. The song was just so blatantly obvious and preachy, it seems impossible that anyone could miss the point.

And then when she had Prince Naveen and her restaraunt building, she decided to fix the restaraunt completely by themselves instead of use help and money that they had.

Well, they really didn't have that much money. Tiana had used most or all of it to purchase the building, and to our knowledge, Naveen was still cut off from his funds. They could have had their friends help, but how do we know they didn't? They didn't go in depth with the building process, and they very well could have employed other help. And besides, neither one of them has any building experience, so I don't see how they could have renovated that whole building by themselves. They probably just helped out because they wanted to, or to reduce the cost.

[Atlantica]

Tiana came from a loving and caring family. Her Daddy worked night and day for them to be provided for, with the long term dream of owning a restaurant. He passed this burning passion onto his daughter.

You can see in the film shes working so hard to get this dream to happen; to her, it must be like still having something of her father to hold onto. But shes not just doing it for him; shes inventing her own recipes and giving her own twist to things. Its very much HER dream.

The way to get there ?

As with anything, work your arse off until you acheive it ! I really wanted to be a Disney Character at the theme parks. I worked hard, with dance classes, acting classes, auditions after auditions .... and you know what ? After all the work, I got through ! Of course I wished along the way, but as Tiana is told, wishing can only take you part of the way. You have to work damn hard along with it. Which is what her character is all about.

Tiana doesnt waste her time sitting around in soap suds or wondering about a forest; she gets her act into gear and does something about it ! It doesnt make her any less of a character because of it.

[stitchje1981]

Tiana came from a loving and caring family. Her Daddy worked night and day for them to be provided for, with the long term dream of owning a restaurant. He passed this burning passion onto his daughter.

You can see in the film shes working so hard to get this dream to happen; to her, it must be like still having something of her father to hold onto. But shes not just doing it for him; shes inventing her own recipes and giving her own twist to things. Its very much HER dream.

The way to get there ?

As with anything, work your arse off until you acheive it ! I really wanted to be a Disney Character at the theme parks. I worked hard, with dance classes, acting classes, auditions after auditions .... and you know what ? After all the work, I got through ! Of course I wished along the way, but as Tiana is told, wishing can only take you part of the way. You have to work damn hard along with it. Which is what her character is all about.

Tiana doesnt waste her time sitting around in soap suds or wondering about a forest; she gets her act into gear and does something about it ! It doesnt make her any less of a character because of it.

I was about to respond on your opinion Duster, but I couldn't agree more with atlanticaunderthesea...

And I would do the same, I"d rather build something from my own money and make things happen myself then ask someone else for money and let it done for me! Good example: I graduated as a Graphic Desinger. No one else in my family ( apart from my dead uncle, he died before I was born) can draw... I had to do it all for myself, look everything up, start all over again, got angry when I got something wrong, etc....
But the point is, at the end I did it, I got the good grades and I made it happen and that makes you feel so damn proud of yourself....
And that's the same message they' ve tried to make over with Tiana, things that you do for yourself and they turn out GREAT, it makes you feel SO DAMN PROUD of yourself. The fact that you can say I DID THAT, I MADE IT HAPPEN, you know !!!!


About Ariel, I didn't call her spoiled. But now that you mention it, maybe she is a little with all the human stuff she has ands still want more.... But aren't we all a it like that with our love for Disney? I mean I've got a lot, but it's never enough
And instead that Ariel wants a human as the ultimate thing, we all have are ultimate dream about something

[tightlacedboots]

I really enjoyed The Princess and the Frog, but I would like to say what bothered me most about the film was probably the blond friend calling her father "Big Daddy" Seriously. Weird...

[stitchje1981]

I really enjoyed The Princess and the Frog, but I would like to say what bothered me most about the film was probably the blond friend calling her father "Big Daddy" Seriously. Weird...

I never thought of that before

[pap64]

Call me naive, but what is it exactly about Big Daddy that is bothersome? I looked it up and it refers to the name of a rapper, the name of an Adam Sandler movie and the name of one of the enemies in Bioshock.

The way I see it, Charlotte calls her father Big Daddy because he is big, and he is her father. That and it might be the nickname everyone uses to address him.

[stitchje1981]

Call me naive, but what is it exactly about Big Daddy that is bothersome? I looked it up and it refers to the name of a rapper, the name of an Adam Sandler movie and the name of one of the enemies in Bioshock.

The way I see it, Charlotte calls her father Big Daddy because he is big, and he is her father. That and it might be the nickname everyone uses to address him.

From what I understood of it, correct me if I'm wrong, is that some girls call their pimp Big Daddy as well or a stripper or even more than that call their big spender clients Big Daddy

[tightlacedboots]

Big Daddy sounds too much like either a sexual term (who's your daddy?!) or pimp, perhaps a sugar daddy, etc. Either way, doesn't sound proper for a father figure?

As innocent as it was meant to be, it confused the heck out of me! I had to struggle to figure out the ages of the characters and whether or not they were literally related or if the term was simply slang.

edit: I just looked it up on urbandictionary.com. See what I mean.

[UmbrellaFish]

Big Daddy sounds too much like either a sexual term (who's your daddy?!) or pimp, perhaps a sugar daddy, etc. Either way, doesn't sound proper for a father figure?

As innocent as it was meant to be, it confused the heck out of me! I had to struggle to figure out the ages of the characters and whether or not they were literally related or if the term was simply slang.

edit: I just looked it up on urbandictionary.com. See what I mean.

Wikipedia says the name "Big Daddy" comes from Tennessee Williams' 1955 play, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, in which the name refers to the very Southern patriarch of the family, and everybody including his wife and daughter-in-laws call him that.

I think Big Daddy is a perfectly appropriate name for the character. I never thought of it in a sexual way.

[merbass]

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Belle has large penis !

[stitchje1981]

Belle has large penis !

Ok THIS is really inappropriate!!!!