"Glee" Discussion

[Disneykid]

I actually think this is the best episode of season two so far. For once, I felt like all of the kids were given a decent amount of screentime (I guess getting rid of Sue and giving Will nothing to do helped in that regard) and all of the songs were strong (yes, even Rachel and Finn's in its own perverse way).

The season premiere was decent but tried to introduce too many things at once instead of letting a couple of threads breathe. Britney/Brittany was merely okay but felt like one big fluff episode that added little to the storylines. Last week's religion episode was very strong and tasteful, but not all of the songs worked (Puck's stuck out like a sore thumb). I feel totally satisfied by everything in tonight's episode.

Artie's my favorite of the guys in the group, so I was happy to see them give him some meat to chew on tonight, and I was surprised by how much I liked him with Brittany. Artie has a bit of a wordly attitude when he's with Tina, but for the most part, he's pretty naive and innocent, and I think that works well with Brittany's airheaded form of innocence. Like everyone else, I don't see them exploring this relationship further, but I have to admit it was more interesting than most of his stuff with Tina.

Both of Kurt's numbers were the highlight for me in this episode, and now I really really want to see him perform more duets with Rachel. "Happy Days Are Here Again" was the absolute perfect song for them to sing together. They should give Kurt more Judy songs the way they keep giving Rachel Barbra ones. I can easily see him singing "The Man That Got Away" or even "The Boy Next Door" at some point in this series.

Oh, and like UmbrellaFish, I didn't even notice the lack of Sue in the episode until her commercial popped up. That speaks volumes right there.

I confess I've never seen all of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I've seen enough pieces to get a good feel for it, though, and I'll be checking out the Blu-ray next week in preparation for the Rocky Horror episode.

[Disney's Divinity]

I really enjoyed last night’s episode. I know it’s hard to say after only 4 episodes, but I do think this season looks to have more consistency than last year. I also noticed that they’ve been focusing on Will and Emma a lot less. The adults’ storylines never bothered me before, but I realize that I like the episodes focused more on the students.

My favorite part of the episode was the end with Rachel and Kurt. One of my favorite episodes from the first season was when he gave her a bad makeover, and I always thought they worked well together. Glad to see them come back to that. As for Sam, I really liked him with Quinn. From all the spoilers I’ve heard on other sites, it seems like they probably intended him to be gay, but changed it once everybody started talking about it. I think this episode was poking fun at how everybody watching the show thought he was gay. Not that I mind if they changed it--I really don’t think he would have any chemistry with Kurt, and he fits really well with Quinn.

And that “Le Jazz Hot”… I’ve unfortunately never seen the Julie Andrews film it comes from, but that was really bizarre. (Didn’t sound that good either…)

Btw, did anyone notice when they were voting, someone wrote, “Mercedes and Satan.”

[TheSequelOfDisney]

And that “Le Jazz Hot”… I’ve unfortunately never seen the Julie Andrews film it comes from, but that was really bizarre. (Didn’t sound that good either…)

Btw, did anyone notice when they were voting, someone wrote, “Mercedes and Satan.”

I liked the production of Le Jazz Hot, but I really didn't like Chris singing it that much. Julie totally trumps him (rightfully so, since the song was written for her, I think). But I did read an interview in which Chris said that hopefull after Julie watches Le Jazz Hot (which no one really knows if she even watches the show), that she'll take interest and want to be on the show, too. And hopefully we can get Carol and Julie back together for (possibly) the last time.

And I'm pretty sure that Mercedes wrote "Mercedes and Satan." As I've mentioned, I loved their performance, and I definitely think they were the best out of all of the performances.

I also loved how Rachel and Finn acted after singing the song ("I'm so shocked--we're, we're very shocked) and then after the announcement of who won ("What? This is unbelievable! I don't understand how this could happen!).

And for Happy Days Are Here Again/Get Happy, I see that Rachel is wearing the same outfit that Barbra did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf53oFb4IKA

[UmbrellaFish]

And that “Le Jazz Hot”… I’ve unfortunately never seen the Julie Andrews film it comes from, but that was really bizarre. (Didn’t sound that good either…)

Btw, did anyone notice when they were voting, someone wrote, “Mercedes and Satan.”

I liked the production of Le Jazz Hot, but I really didn't like Chris singing it that much. Julie totally trumps him (rightfully so, since the song was written for her, I think). But I did read an interview in which Chris said that hopefull after Julie watches Le Jazz Hot (which no one really knows if she even watches the show), that she'll take interest and want to be on the show, too. And hopefully we can get Carol and Julie back together for (possibly) the last time.

Here, for Disney's Divinity,
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I'm lenient on Chris's version of LJH, because as TSOD already said, it was written for Julie and no one would be able to match up with those vocals. Also, I know I'll be biased so I rather enjoy the show than harp on this rendition. The one thing I will say is that the auto-tune was far too excessive.

As for this sequence catching Julie's eye... I think it will. I hope it will. But really matters is that either Julie or the show producer's contact one another so we can get her on the darn show already!

[Flanger-Hanger]

I really enjoyed last night’s episode. I know it’s hard to say after only 4 episodes, but I do think this season looks to have more consistency than last year. I also noticed that they’ve been focusing on Will and Emma a lot less. The adults’ storylines never bothered me before, but I realize that I like the episodes focused more on the students.

Agree with this and I'm very pleased to have enjoyed 3 of the 4 episodes so far so much. It's almost enough to make me forgive them for the Spears episode.

I can really do without the adult plots altogether, even though they have to continue the love triangle, so if they focus more on the kids I won't be upset in the least.

From all the spoilers I’ve heard on other sites, it seems like they probably intended him to be gay, but changed it once everybody started talking about it. Not that I mind if they changed it--I really don’t think he would have any chemistry with Kurt, and he fits really well with Quinn.

I thought so too and agree that Kurt deserves someone more Kurt-like for a love interest. It would be interesting if Sam did "become" gay, but got someone else but that sounds highly unlikely to me.

"Le Jaz Hot" was interesting, but of course Chris could never top Julie. I think all of us (including him) know that, but at least the movie got some recognition on the show!

My favorite song was the one from A Chorus Line, which is interesting because I've never listed to the song score before (and yet I'm familiar with the likes of 1776, Finian's Rainbow and Half a Sixpence...). Glad to see Mike given so many lines,it was more than he's said in the entire series!

[dvdjunkie]

I spoke with members of my granddaughter's Glee Club at her school and they all hate "Glee" with a very deep passion.

The main comment is that they have NEVER come to school prepared to break out into song and dance at a moment's notice. They find that the story lines are very contrived and the acting very stilted (bad, in other words).

I asked them if they had any favorite characters in the show, even though they don't watch it on a regular basis and they said not really. They just wish that it would spend more time on the trials and tribulations of learning harmonies and things like that instead of every two minutes breaking into some song that has nothing to do with the storyline.

So there is the general opinion of 33 students in this particular High School Glee Club that is highly regarded as one of the best in the state of Kansas.

[Disney's Divinity]

I spoke with members of my granddaughter's Glee Club at her school and they all hate "Glee" with a very deep passion.

The main comment is that they have NEVER come to school prepared to break out into song and dance at a moment's notice. They find that the story lines are very contrived and the acting very stilted (bad, in other words).

I asked them if they had any favorite characters in the show, even though they don't watch it on a regular basis and they said not really. They just wish that it would spend more time on the trials and tribulations of learning harmonies and things like that instead of every two minutes breaking into some song that has nothing to do with the storyline.

So there is the general opinion of 33 students in this particular High School Glee Club that is highly regarded as one of the best in the state of Kansas.

Their loss. Who cares?

It's a dramedy/musical, not reality television. Go watch The Choir.

[PeterPanfan]

I spoke with members of my granddaughter's Glee Club at her school and they all hate "Glee" with a very deep passion.

The main comment is that they have NEVER come to school prepared to break out into song and dance at a moment's notice. They find that the story lines are very contrived and the acting very stilted (bad, in other words).

I asked them if they had any favorite characters in the show, even though they don't watch it on a regular basis and they said not really. They just wish that it would spend more time on the trials and tribulations of learning harmonies and things like that instead of every two minutes breaking into some song that has nothing to do with the storyline.

So there is the general opinion of 33 students in this particular High School Glee Club that is highly regarded as one of the best in the state of Kansas.

Oh, okay.

Still love it.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I spoke with members of my granddaughter's Glee Club at her school and they all hate "Glee" with a very deep passion.

The main comment is that they have NEVER come to school prepared to break out into song and dance at a moment's notice. They find that the story lines are very contrived and the acting very stilted (bad, in other words).

I asked them if they had any favorite characters in the show, even though they don't watch it on a regular basis and they said not really. They just wish that it would spend more time on the trials and tribulations of learning harmonies and things like that instead of every two minutes breaking into some song that has nothing to do with the storyline.

So there is the general opinion of 33 students in this particular High School Glee Club that is highly regarded as one of the best in the state of Kansas.

I agree with Disney's Divinity and PeterPanfan. It's not a reality show. Plus, about 90% of the songs sung are actually for performances or rehearsals. There have only been a handful or two of songs that have just randomly been sung and are out of the blue. It's their loss, because the show is obviously a pretty good one since there are over 7.5 million fans of the show on Facebook alone. I'm pretty sure that 7.5 million beats 33.

[PeterPanfan]

And not to mention that the show is intentionally campy... I mean, watch a trailer, it's not meant to be taken completely seriously. This isn't Lost.

[UmbrellaFish]

Well, most of my High School friends in Chorus and Drama clubs certainly wouldn't agree, in fact most of them are major fans. But, in the end, one TV show can't please everybody.

[Escapay]

They just wish that it would spend more time on the trials and tribulations of learning harmonies and things like that instead of every two minutes breaking into some song that has nothing to do with the storyline.

"Glee" is like "Grey's Anatomy". It's not focusing on realism, it's focusing on storytelling. Real doctors don't sleep around in supply closets. Real glee clubs don't sing pitch perfect with choreography to match at a moment's notice. That's why both are called fiction. They take real-life concepts and put them in a universe where such possibilities are not impossible.

If they want a "real" show about glee club, they should videotape themselves practicing and watch that every Tuesday at 8. For the rest of us, we're fine with "Glee".

albert

[pap64]

Ahem...

[zackisthewalrus]

Just watched this week's episode. Loved all of the Brittany moments again. Her room looks like an old lady's room also. Haha.

About dvdjunkie's story, I have to agree with everyone else. I'm in an award winning show choir, and a lot of us LOVE "Glee". It's not about specifics. It's a great, funny show that's scripted about a glee club and the relationships the people in it have with other people.

[pap64]

Well, I just saw the first episode of Glee. I know I am late to the discussion...VERY late, and all of this is based on the first episode so things might change considerably later on...


... I liked it. I liked it a lot.

Yeah, I was stunned too. I was very cautious about this since hyped series like this often don't live up to expectations. But I saw the first episode and really enjoyed it.

I'm pretty sure someone has mentioned this already, but Glee is basically High School Musical... but done MUCH better. See, it takes all of the ideas, the character archetypes, the music and even some of the plot elements and gives it dimension. What I mean is that Rachel is the overachiever, Finn is the tough guy with the heart of gold, so on and so forth. But rather than just being one dimensional like in High School Musical they are given depth of character. Finn likes to sing because it reminds me of a time when both he and his mother were happy, and Rachel believes that she is a winner because everyone hates her for no real reason, and feels that if she does something special she will be loved and accepted by all... a rather real issue some kids and even adults have.

The first Glee episode has a similar plot point like HSM, and that is that doing what you really want may cost you respect points due to the "status quo". HSM even has a big musical number about it. But I felt that in HSM that was really shallow. All the characters kept whining about "being cool" for no reason, and the reason for the status quo being the basketball game was poorly handled.

In Glee, however, you see why these kids care about the status quo. Finn is in a sexual relationship with the cheerleader, and the football cares about Finn being in the team because the teachers and coaches out pressure on them to be the best because they created a legacy, and the school is dependent on that in order to stay afloat.

In other words, the kids care about their reputation because their teachers tell them to participate in activities that actually benefit THEM and THE SCHOOL. See what I mean? I may be wrong, but I thought the idea of the status quo in high school made much more sense in Glee than in HSM.

I really like the characters. Like I said, they are stereotypical, but the writing gives them more dimension. The bully is actually best friends with Finn, which in my opinion creates some tension because the friend wants him to be in the football team while Finn wants to be in glee club. All of us have had an experience where we disagree with the choices our friends make not because we hate it, but simply because a clash happens when we believe we have full understanding of our friend.

I also liked how the plot felt familiar but took enough twists. Like when the teacher was given the bag of marijuana by the former glee teacher, I thought to myself "Let me guess. He will leave it on his pocket or in the classroom, someone will discover it, will nearly cost him his job, but the kids help him out and everything is fine". Instead, he used it to lure Finn into joining the club and eventually making him realize the type of guy he can be.

It was underhanded, sure, but I guess the ends justify the means, no?

I take it the tension between the other teacher and the wife will be developed, especially since the wife is pregnant in the first episode.

I really enjoyed the music. I like how the musical cues are actually choruses, acapella beats and other musical noises that add to the theme of the show.

So yeah, I loved the first episode of Glee. According to what I read here, it gets better, so I can't wait to see the rest.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

The Time Warp:

http://santanalopez.tumblr.com/post/132 ... -glee-cast

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Full versions of all the songs:

http://www.kiss107.com/mediaplayer/?sta ... m=20551788

Enjoy if you're into spoilers!

[blackcauldron85]

tommy2.net:

Here’s the track list for Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album.

1. We Need A Little Christmas
2. Deck The Rooftop
3. Merry Christmas Darling
4. Baby, It’s Cold Outside
5. The Most Wonderful Day Of The Year
6. Last Christmas
7. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
8. O Christmas Tree
9. Jingle Bells
10. You’re A Mean One, Mr. Grinch
11. Angels We Have Heard On High
12. O Holy Night

[PeterPanfan]

1. Is there a song called "The Most Wonderful Day of the Year?" Or is it "time"?

2. WILL THERE BE A CHRISTMAS GLEE EPISODE!?

[Escapay]

• 1. We Need A Little Christmas
  2. Deck The Rooftop
  3. Merry Christmas Darling
  4. Baby, It’s Cold Outside
  5. The Most Wonderful Day Of The Year
  6. Last Christmas
  7. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
  8. O Christmas Tree
  9. Jingle Bells
  10. You’re A Mean One, Mr. Grinch
  11. Angels We Have Heard On High
  12. O Holy Night

The ones in bold are some of my favorite Christmas Carols, so I can't wait to see how "Glee" does it. #3 especially, it's got a lot of sentimental value for me. I'm hoping that "Baby, It's Cold Outside" is a duet between Sam and Quinn.

And I'm glad they didn't cover "All I Want for Christmas is You"! Blegh!

Panfan, "The Most Wonderful Day of the Year" is from "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer"...

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albert