Tangled (aka Rapunzel) Discussion - Part III

Scarred4life · Post by **Scarred4life** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:01 pm

nomad2010 wrote:One can dream, right?

Wow. This is gorgeous. But if it doesn't have a floating head in it, Disney will never use it.

Edthehyena · Post by **Edthehyena** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:38 pm

SCAMANDER AHHHHH HOW COME YOU STOLE MY FRENCH YOUTH SONGGGG !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVNAoOzUpx4

Edthehyena · Post by **Edthehyena** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:41 pm

Concerning the leadership of Flynn, i'm afraid we have not seen the worst of it yet... Its has been said that he is totally introducing the prologue of the movie, not at all in a "beauty and the beast" mysterious respectful tone but in a comic ironic vibe....

Tristy · Post by **Tristy** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:48 pm

I seriously hope that's just a rumor.

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:20 pm

nomad2010 wrote:One can dream, right?

oh yes, I'm dreaming of a Disney logo with black holes between the letters.

Tristy · Post by **Tristy** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:10 pm

Is Flynn seriously going to narrate the prologue or is that just joke and/or rumor?

janesjubilee · Post by **janesjubilee** » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:19 pm

Good news!

On Facebook:

Megamind- 19,904 Fans

Tangled- 20,029 Fans

I feel like a huge dork for feeling so proud of this. But I am happy dancing right now.

SillySymphony · Post by **SillySymphony** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:41 am

I wanted to share a curious moment I had today.

I was at lunch with some family and friends. One family has a seven and a three-old-daughter. The youngest had brought a Tiana doll to lunch, so we were chitchatting about Disney princesses. I then generally asked, "So...have you heard about the new Rapunzel movie coming out?" Without delay the older daughter piped up, "You mean Tangled?!" I was a little caught off guard. I mean, I've honestly tried and the word Tangled doesn't come naturally out of my mouth: it sounds wrong. But the way this girl said it...it sounded...right. Just comes to show: if you're excited or passionate about something, a word you once considered to be terrible can sound sweet to the ears, especially from a child's voice.

disneystarsfan · Post by **disneystarsfan** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:31 am

SillySymphony wrote:I wanted to share a curious moment I had today.

I was at lunch with some family and friends. One family has a seven and a three-old-daughter. The youngest had brought a Tiana doll to lunch, so we were chitchatting about Disney princesses. I then generally asked, "So...have you heard about the new Rapunzel movie coming out?" Without delay the older daughter piped up, "You mean Tangled?!" I was a little caught off guard. I mean, I've honestly tried and the word Tangled doesn't come naturally out of my mouth: it sounds wrong. But the way this girl said it...it sounded...right. Just comes to show: if you're excited or passionate about something, a word you once considered to be terrible can sound sweet to the ears, especially from a child's voice.

I know what you mean.

(wow, this brings back memories). There's just certain instances when one word or phrase said by one person can have a completely different tone when said by another.
Thanks SillySymphony for that cool story.

Back to Tangled:
I don't think this has been posted before and kind of interesting where Menken mentions the song for the end credits
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/oscars- ... more-66061

phan258 · Post by **phan258** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:50 am

SillySymphony wrote:I wanted to share a curious moment I had today.

I was at lunch with some family and friends. One family has a seven and a three-old-daughter. The youngest had brought a Tiana doll to lunch, so we were chitchatting about Disney princesses. I then generally asked, "So...have you heard about the new Rapunzel movie coming out?" Without delay the older daughter piped up, "You mean Tangled?!" I was a little caught off guard. I mean, I've honestly tried and the word Tangled doesn't come naturally out of my mouth: it sounds wrong. But the way this girl said it...it sounded...right. Just comes to show: if you're excited or passionate about something, a word you once considered to be terrible can sound sweet to the ears, especially from a child's voice.

Thank you for this story, it was such a nice change of pace from all the complaining and pessimism! I think all the people in doubt about various aspects of this movie should read this story and learn a little something: kids don't care about the title. They don't care if it's hand-drawn or CGI, they don't care who narrates the prologue and they don't care about how many songs there are in comparison with previous movies. They just love and enjoy it for what it is. Why can't you?

DisneyFan09 · Post by **DisneyFan09** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:15 am

janesjubilee wrote:Good news!

On Facebook:

Megamind- 19,904 Fans

Tangled- 20,029 Fans

I feel like a huge dork for feeling so proud of this. But I am happy dancing right now.

No, don't be! Its extremly good news!

Awesome.

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:16 am

Eventually there will also be an added end title rock-style song , a “sore point” for Menken who didn’t write it.

“Now they have made it so a score from an animated musical cannot be validated as best score in any way, not even underscore. I understand that songs do make a score jump out at you in a way underscores can’t compete, but I don’t agree with that. If there were more musicals we could have a Best Musical category but there just aren’t enough,” he says.

The Academy also tweaked the rules after Dreamgirls and Enchanted each scored three song nominations in successive years. Now it allows only two to be named from a given movie. Last year, they didn’t even perform the nominated tunes on the show.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/oscars- ... more-66061

So, now a musical cannot be nominated for Best Score because there are songs in it? What a bunch a crap. What is the academy thinking?

They've just eliminated the prospect of the genre that is actually about music to be eligible in one of the only two music categories!!! WTF???

DisneyJedi · Post by **DisneyJedi** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:55 am

sotiris2006 wrote:
Eventually there will also be an added end title rock-style song , a “sore point” for Menken who didn’t write it.

“Now they have made it so a score from an animated musical cannot be validated as best score in any way, not even underscore. I understand that songs do make a score jump out at you in a way underscores can’t compete, but I don’t agree with that. If there were more musicals we could have a Best Musical category but there just aren’t enough,” he says.

The Academy also tweaked the rules after Dreamgirls and Enchanted each scored three song nominations in successive years. Now it allows only two to be named from a given movie. Last year, they didn’t even perform the nominated tunes on the show.
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/oscars- ... more-66061

So, now a musical cannot be nominated for Best Score because there are songs in it? What a bunch a crap. What is the academy thinking? They've just eliminated the prospect of the genre that is actually about music to be eligible in one of the only two music categories!!! WTF???

I agree. It's just not fair!

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:01 am

I agree as well. The purpose of a musical score is to highlight the emotions expressed by the character or the events in the film. Just because it has songs it doesn't mean that the score becomes less significant. Take Beauty and the Beast, for example. The transformation score is very heartbreaking, moving and uplifting, bringing us the pain of Belle's sadness and the joys of Beast's redemption and transformation.

Someone at the Academy doesn't seem to get this. Often the best musicals are accompanied by the best scores, and to deny them of this honor is downright insulting.

Fairytales · Post by **Fairytales** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:09 am

i'm so happy i can finally log in here!
i've been following this topic for a week now and have read all the old posts too. I'm so glad that i could find the song Healing Incantation because of this topic!

But, if anyone still has the sample music of Alan Menken or the readalong storybook where you hear the ending of the story with Flynn and stuff, could he or she PLEASE send it to rpatzforeverfan@live.nl ?
Thanks a lot!

sorry if my english sucks, i'm dutch

Sotiris · Post by **Sotiris** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:55 am

Look what I've stumbled across while searching for Tangled products on amazon

Disney Duster · Post by **Disney Duster** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:14 pm

phan258 wrote:kids don't care about the title. They don't care if it's hand-drawn or CGI, they don't care who narrates the prologue and they don't care about how many songs there are in comparison with previous movies. They just love and enjoy it for what it is. Why can't you?

When I was a kid, I would actually care even more. I loved the way Disney did fairy tales, I always considered them the best versions. I considered them the versions of the fairy tales when they made them. It was my main love. Now, I can't do that the same, and the child in me is crying.

phan258 · Post by **phan258** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:24 pm

Disney Duster wrote:
phan258 wrote:kids don't care about the title. They don't care if it's hand-drawn or CGI, they don't care who narrates the prologue and they don't care about how many songs there are in comparison with previous movies. They just love and enjoy it for what it is. Why can't you?
When I was a kid, I would actually care even more. I loved the way Disney did fairy tales, I always considered them the best versions. I considered them the versions of the fairy tales when they made them. It was my main love. Now, I can't do that the same, and the child in me is crying.

I'm going to agree with you on one thing--I also loved the Disney versions when I was little, although I only cared about what they were called insofar as to be able to indicate which movie I wanted--not because I particularly liked/disliked the title. 'Aladdin' would be just as good called something else, and I really don't think having some other character doing the prologue would have ruined it, let alone the zillion other little things people are concerned about :/

Disney Duster · Post by **Disney Duster** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:28 pm

Well, I mean by calling them by the right title, they felt more like the fairy tales, like the title said "this is Aladdin" and it was like no other version was as right or good as Disney's and the name also said that.

PheR · Post by **PheR** » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:15 pm

Now you brought Aladdin's title into this conversation, I might add that here in spanish speaking territories, that story was known as 'Aladino y la Lampara Maravillosa' (Alddin and the wonderful Lamp), but since Disney's version, with the name 'Aladdin' also in spanish regions, the story of that famous kid who found that lamp with a genie in it is now known as 'Aladdin'... Perhaps the same thing will happen to Tangled

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