Tangled (aka Rapunzel) Discussion - Part III

[TheSequelOfDisney]

I "liked" it! I hope I'll be able to see it in theaters, but right now, I don't think I'll be able to do so (I actually haven't seen a DAC in theaters since Lilo & Stitch, which is sad, I know).

[Dream Huntress]

Do any of you think that the death of traditional animation is upon us? I certainly hope that traditional animation will not die, and that it'll be even better during the future than it was in "The Princess and the Frog".

Thank you in advance for your replies.

I don't think it will die, but it will be very rare, like stop motion, at least when it comes to feature films, for tv and dtv it's pretty much where it's still going strong.

What 2D really needs it's great movie, not just something good, something great, something that people can find engaging and entertaining, a big spectacle if you will.

[Disney Duster]

Good question. Unfortunately I can't give a specific answer, but I really hope now that traditional animation will die - if not, I'm gonna kill myself, lol. I love that kind of animation

UM...don't you mean "I hope now that traditional animation will NOT die"?

[SWillie!]

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Hmm...I prefer the French poster over this!

Mobje, can I ask where you're finding all these super high-res pictures? Do you know where I might find high-res images of all the Disney logos and posters and whatnot?

[DisneyDude2010]

I think the song in the featurette iis The Kingdom Dance - I can here clapping and in the trailer so i put 2 and 2 together

[DisneyFan09]

Good question. Unfortunately I can't give a specific answer, but I really hope now that traditional animation will die - if not, I'm gonna kill myself, lol. I love that kind of animation

UM...don't you mean "I hope now that traditional animation will NOT die"?

Of course, cause I love traditional animation.

[Edthehyena]

CELEBRATE !!! HERE IT IS AT LAST !!! Incredible new for fans of incredible Menken, first look to the whole piece of work of the man with the tracklist i've been dreaming for so long, from amazon ! I guess it's just new from today, i'm surprised nobody discovered it before

You'll see that

- We got many reprises ! (3 reprises for the wish song, woww !!), including the yet famous INCANTATION that runs all through the movie from the prologue i guess to the finale death flynn scene (The Tear Heals)... bet it's gonna be tearful !

- We got as many score tracks as we could wish (remember, recent disney soundtracks was composed of too few nonsense montages...) except (if i believe the tracks titles), we don't have many music from the inside tower scenes i feel, not even Gothel and Girl chats or Girl and Boy first meeting... what a pity

- The blasted tavern song is simply called "I've got a dream"

- The not very precise titled prologue promises to be quite long and rich and interesting with even Rapunzel as a child singing !!???

- Do u think it's a fake ??


1. When Will My Life Begin? Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
2. When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise 1) Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
3. Mother Knows Best Performed by Donna Murphy as "Mother Gothel"
4. When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise 2) Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
5. I've Got a Dream Performed by Brad Garrett as "Hook-Hand Thug," Jeffrey Tambor as "Big Nose Thug," Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel," Zachary Levi as "Flynn Rider" and Ensemble
6. Mother Knows Best (Reprise) Performed by Donna Murphy as "Mother Gothel"
7. I See the Light Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel" and Zachary Levi as "Flynn Rider"
8. Healing Incantation Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
9. Flynn Wanted Score
10. Prologue Songs and Score Performed by Donna Murphy as "Mother Gothel" and Delaney Stein as "Young Rapunzel"
11. Horse with No Rider Score
12. Escape Route Score
13. Campfire Score
14. Kingdom Dance Score
15. Waiting for the Lights Score
16. Return to Mother Score
17. Realization and Escape Score
18. The Tear Heals Score and Song Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
19. Kingdom Celebration Score
20. Something That I Want Performed by Grace Potter

[phan258]

CELEBRATE !!! HERE IT IS AT LAST !!! Incredible new for fans of incredible Menken, first look to the whole piece of work of the man with the tracklist i've been dreaming for so long, from amazon ! I guess it's just new from today, i'm surprised nobody discovered it before

You'll see that

- We got many reprises ! (3 reprises for the wish song, woww !!), including the yet famous INCANTATION that runs all through the movie from the prologue i guess to the finale death flynn scene (The Tear Heals)... bet it's gonna be tearful !

- We got as many score tracks as we could wish (remember, recent disney soundtracks was composed of too few nonsense montages...) except (if i believe the tracks titles), we don't have many music from the inside tower scenes i feel, not even Gothel and Girl chats or Girl and Boy first meeting... what a pity

- The blasted tavern song is simply called "I've got a dream"

- The not very precise titled prologue promises to be quite long and rich and interesting with even Rapunzel as a child singing !!???

- Do u think it's a fake ??


1. When Will My Life Begin? Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
2. When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise 1) Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
3. Mother Knows Best Performed by Donna Murphy as "Mother Gothel"
4. When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise 2) Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
5. I've Got a Dream Performed by Brad Garrett as "Hook-Hand Thug," Jeffrey Tambor as "Big Nose Thug," Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel," Zachary Levi as "Flynn Rider" and Ensemble
6. Mother Knows Best (Reprise) Performed by Donna Murphy as "Mother Gothel"
7. I See the Light Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel" and Zachary Levi as "Flynn Rider"
8. Healing Incantation Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
9. Flynn Wanted Score
10. Prologue Songs and Score Performed by Donna Murphy as "Mother Gothel" and Delaney Stein as "Young Rapunzel"
11. Horse with No Rider Score
12. Escape Route Score
13. Campfire Score
14. Kingdom Dance Score
15. Waiting for the Lights Score
16. Return to Mother Score
17. Realization and Escape Score
18. The Tear Heals Score and Song Performed by Mandy Moore as "Rapunzel"
19. Kingdom Celebration Score
20. Something That I Want Performed by Grace Potter

YESSSS!!! THANK YOU for the heads up!

[Gandalf]

Exciting...

But a little disappointing.

This means there are only 4 full-length songs:
-When Will My Life Begin?
-Mother Knows Best
-I've Got a Dream
-I See the Light

All of the rest seem to be either reprises or preprises (don't know the technical term for a song that alludes to a following song...)

In comparison, Beauty and the Beast had 6 full-length songs (with a 7th being added later) and 3 reprises. The Little Mermaid had 6 full-length songs and 4 shorter songs.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to this release SO much...

[estefan]

Woah! Would it be possible to edit your thread to announce that there are SPOILERS AHEAD! I know there are plenty of people on this forum who would be really annoyed at really want is revealed in some of the post.

[phan258]

Exciting...

But a little disappointing.

This means there are only 4 full-length songs:
-When Will My Life Begin?
-Mother Knows Best
-I've Got a Dream
-I See the Light

All of the rest seem to be either reprises or preprises (don't know the technical term for a song that alludes to a following song...)

In comparison, Beauty and the Beast had 6 full-length songs (with a 7th being added later) and 3 reprises. The Little Mermaid had 6 full-length songs and 4 shorter songs.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to this release SO much...

Well there's one called 'Tear Heals' score AND song, performed by Mandy Moore....maybe that's 5?

[Gandalf]

Exciting...

But a little disappointing.

This means there are only 4 full-length songs:
-When Will My Life Begin?
-Mother Knows Best
-I've Got a Dream
-I See the Light

All of the rest seem to be either reprises or preprises (don't know the technical term for a song that alludes to a following song...)

In comparison, Beauty and the Beast had 6 full-length songs (with a 7th being added later) and 3 reprises. The Little Mermaid had 6 full-length songs and 4 shorter songs.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to this release SO much...

Well there's one called 'Tear Heals' score AND song, performed by Mandy Moore....maybe that's 5?

Pretty sure that's going to be another short reprise... Similar to how "Kidnap and Reunion" on the Anastasia soundtrack features a reprise of "Once Upon a December" or how "Ray Laid Low" on the Princess and the Frog features a reprise of "Almost There".

I could be wrong.

[Disney Duster]

Gandalf you missed "Incantation" which would at least be considered a shorter song. So 5 songs?

[DisneyDude2010]

Exciting...

But a little disappointing.

This means there are only 4 full-length songs:
-When Will My Life Begin?
-Mother Knows Best
-I've Got a Dream
-I See the Light
.

You forgot
-I've Got a dream
-Incantation

Well thats 6
I thought there was a song called "You are my forever" or was that made up?[/u]

[phan258]

Exciting...

But a little disappointing.

This means there are only 4 full-length songs:
-When Will My Life Begin?
-Mother Knows Best
-I've Got a Dream
-I See the Light
.

You forgot
-I've Got a dream
-Incantation

Well thats 6
I thought there was a song called "You are my forever" or was that made up?[/u]

Yes, I forgot about 'You Are My Forever,' what about that? Also I know there's an article regarding Menken somewhere that said the end credits song was either going to contain lyrics by him OR that he wasn't involved with it at all & that was a sore point (seems that's what it is now?)

[Edthehyena]

You are my forever was cancelled a long time ago and recently replaced by the "healing incantation" that plays the same fonction, beautiful melancholic tune adressed either to the flower or to the hair to activate the magic, and sung from G to R or from R to F... That is the fifth song, tiny but powerful, heard and included in prologue , in middle of movie, and in the tear heals track... Very new and brilliant Menken's formula to me !!!!!!

[Tristy]

I actually kinda like the fact that they are mostly reprises myself and that there is a little bit of singing in the prologue track.

To be fair, there are a good number of musicals that have reprisals.

Look at Sweeney Todd for example: Almost every song in that is a reprisal of another one ie. the opening of "By the Sea" has the same tune as "Worst Pies in London", opening to Pretty Women = "Ladies in Their Sensitivities", "My friends" is used a lot, and "No Place like London" is sort of used in "Epiphany"

OK, i'm getting a little OT, but I'm trying to stress a point.

Great looking track list! Just hope the actual music lives up to the hype.

[Toky]

I'm quite interrested in number 20, probably the end credit song,sung by Grace Potter. I found this which is probably not the right. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6TqbsrL ... ata_player

[pap64]

I actually kinda like the fact that they are mostly reprises myself and that there is a little bit of singing in the prologue track.

To be fair, there are a good number of musicals that have reprisals.

Look at Sweeney Todd for example: Almost every song in that is a reprisal of another one ie. the opening of "By the Sea" has the same tune as "Worst Pies in London", opening to Pretty Women = "Ladies in Their Sensitivities", "My friends" is used a lot, and "No Place like London" is sort of used in "Epiphany"

OK, i'm getting a little OT, but I'm trying to stress a point.

Great looking track list! Just hope the actual music lives up to the hype.

Don't forget that the second act of Sound of Music is nothing but reprises of previous songs sung in different context.

[Sotiris]

From the above list I understand there will be 5 original songs written by Alan Menken and Glen Slatter:

When Will My Life Begin? (the 'I Want' song)
Mother Knows Best (the 'Villain' song)
I've Got a Dream (the 'Fun' song)
I See the Light (the 'Love' song)
Healing Incantation (the 'Magic' song)

and 5 reprises:

When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise 1)
When Will My Life Begin? (Reprise 2)
Mother Knows Best (Reprise)
Prologue Song (Reprise 1 of the Healing Incantation)
The Tear Heals Song (Reprise 2 of the Healing Incantation)

and an end credits song written and performed by Grace Potter:

Something That I Want

It has already been confirmed by Menken that the "Healing Incantation" song runs throughout the movie so I suppose it is safe too assume that the "Prologue Song" performed by Gothel and Young Rapunzel and the "Tear Heals" Song in the end are reprises of the "Healing Incantation" as it forms a cycle: beginning (prologue)-middle (where Rapunzel heals Fynn's hand)-end (where Rapunzel's tear heals/revives dying Flynn).

I think that the previously included song "You're My Forever" got either re-worked or substituted by the "Healing Incantation" song as they perform a similar role. In the "You're My Forever", the song aquires one meaning when Gothel sings it to Rapunzel and another one when Rapunzel sings it to Flynn probably also related to Rapunzel's magical abilities and how they are used: (the one how Gothel pretends to love Rapunzel so she can use her power to remain young, and the other showing Rapunzel's authentic love for Flynn and her using her powers to save his life).

Menken also said that "Healing Incantation" was the last song to be written which indicates a need produced by story changes.