The necessary derailment thread

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The necessary derailment thread

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Rather than derail in specific threads perhaps this thread will help.
Well, well, well. As if it was not enough closing down a thread (what’s your religion) to silence B.P. & I, censoring me, failing to respond to my question, & shutting a young thread (27 pages, yet the next one you split, explain your siggy had 54 before splitting, I could give other examples of threads with more than 27 pages, but I think it clear why it was shut so early) as soon as I asked you to explain your accusation against me, obviously to hide what had gone on, you then do a part 2 only to shut that in a day or 2 as soon as black pearl asked me what happened. As if that is not enough you told B.P. not to repost (like most ud ers do) but to email me, what, to keep what is done covered up still, of course. The accusation & image at my reputation was very public, so why not my answer. & How do they email me without my address?
As you have made it impossible to follow what is going on, on purpose, & don’t want a derailment. I have started this thread, so I can answer b.p with the statement I had prepared over the weekend. & Could not post till now with all this switching, here it is.

@ B.P. Hi, the image was nothing that remotely could be classed as a personal attack, subtle or otherwise. As Little fuzzy suggested at the end of part one of this thread, (you tube part 1) it was telling them I was going to ignore them permanently, & THAT was removed, I done it in a light hearted way so as not to upset the poor little sensitive dears (after all they had said & done to us, detesting that we spoke about anything to do with God in a thread called ‘what’s your religion’) The ‘reason’ for shutting down the ‘what’s your religion’ thread to silence you & me was because of “personal attacks” as the excuse, then it was because “ a civil discussion was not going on.” I then went into the you tube thread after this thread was closed, (as you know because you responded to laz who was to lazy to look for herself, & instead of thanking you, started on us,) to ask another member not to say things without foundations about revelation TV. This was done with, but along came the usual 2 attackers with their ‘unsubtle’ digs, I posted a picture I made that light heartedly told them I was going to in future ignore them permanently & got accused of attacking them! I had my post censored, by a nameless moderator, who instead of answering my question as to what I had been accused of & how this was so, (along with laz’s wagging finger after, who do you think you are to judge me) instead split this thread. Like Watergate, it stinks to me of a cover up with what they have now done.
So the two constantly attack as you know, the thread we could talk about God in is shut down, (a form of censoring rather than stopping the attackers who got it shut on purpose) I am followed by these two into the you tube thread, & I am censored! Kinda like the school bullies & how they get off, while the victim is dragged before the headmaster for being a troublemaker, as often happens.
Well this is one ‘kid’ that does not allow the bullies to get away with it. I have worked in law & know some that have been broken here. Instead of it being a nice little site, the usual terrorists keep on attacking you me & others & it is time for them to stop. Laz is still referring to religious fanatics & the like, which I am not bothered by in the slightest, but why has this nameless moderator not censored these kind of remarks,
attacks, offensive behaviour etc even ONCE yet finds it becoming to censor me? I am writing to Luke & seriously considering contacting revelation TV. (Wont be my 1st time on TV etc, as mentioned before,) there is also an organisation in the U.S. called ‘silencing the Christians.com’ that take on legal cases such as this. I will not be ignored or censored then, but others may.
No, you misunderstood. I did not say I am going, but that I would not post, as I seemed to be unintentionally offending. But as no one had the guts to stand up to what they accused me of but chose to ignore me rather than help, then I have posted again, to you, I will pm you my email address with details about other things & those that need praying for, as if you don’t already know who!
I have a shopkeeper friend who once offered me web access over his shop, in town. I have very limited access to the web because of the distance from where I live in the country & isolated (its lovely) so do give me time to answer, thanks.

& To the nameless moderator, if you don’t like me talking about God, tough, this is not a subtle personal attack, it is advise, I suggest you get a spine, you may need one. Respect where due, but this is certainly not the case here. You have violated my rights then ignored me. I shall not be satisfied now, until I get a sincere apology & a plausible explanation or confession of what I believe has occurred here from the nameless moderator (& now cj, very possibly one & the same). Trying to shut my God up is not on, & HE will not be made silent regardless of who does not like it. We do not live like China yet. I shall not discuss this any further here but will be starting with talking to Luke.
To any body else, sorry about this, but some one has to deal with this kind of thing, or perhaps you could be next. It will not go away by itself any more than things like racism, terrorism, dictatorship etc. Censoring, bullying etc are things I have fought & beaten the government with previously in court (& they too tried to cover it up) so if not stamped on, big brother will keep getting bigger. Then what?
So I do not put myself in any position that could be detrimental legally, I shall not post any more on this subject now. End of statement.

Laz I believe, indicates having some issues with the mind as she keeps attacking myself, B.P. & any one else with, for want of a better word, habitual lying & vindictiveness, unneccaseraly. Goliath also gave yet another personal attack in the you tube thread trying to goad with “all TV evangelists are crooks” none of which matters to me as they will answer to God one day for every action they ever done, what worries me is how you do nothing about them, yet keep attempting to silence us.

Example of laz lying & attacking
Lazario wrote:Check the record, >Wmd:< You've posted in this thread and What's your religion? ... and those are the only topics you've posted in since July. Now, let's zip over to Black pearl. This thread and What's your religion? ... and those are the only topics Bp's posted in since


There are other places she complained that I only posted in the what’s your religion thread but you can find them for yourself.
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Lazario wrote:People became wise to you and Wmd's plan to SPAM the board with your religious inanity.

Now, if you don't mind; some of us would like to get on with our lives.


Then I suggest you get on with it & as you said in your job description, mind your own bees wax, with those that don’t need your aggression. This PLAN to scam is in whats your religion & a conversation in you tube. That is spamming the board?
Which is it? Complaining I wont post elsewhere or spamming the board. & Why is believing the bible insane? Must be millions of us then.

Eg; attacking others. you tube part 2 David s wrote a beautiful post that laz tried to tear apart, & like poetry he so eloquently told laz to get lost in not so many words. But laz is too thick skinned to care & will continue seeing who she can devour, as I have said before.
She stated in one post, “I’m used to it so I’ll take over from here,” as if she had the right to join in telling someone how wrong they are if they don’t see it their way. Not many people want laz’s opinions but she give them anyway. She never answered any of my questions despite firing them with her attacks at me all the time, so I will ask again, what gives you the right to keep telling me to shut up, leave etc, when you spout off all over the board. Why do you think you should have freedom of speech, & not me? & Another one was if you detest us talking about God in a thread called what’s your religion, why did you keep coming in there & attacking, other than like Goliath, to get it shut down. Never mind your hollering & hooting, be refreshing for once & answer my questions & sensibly for a change, go on just this once. All you need do is keep your hate to yourself. Then you & I could actually ignore each other (even though God & I still love you) but you actually enjoy spoiling this site as your persistence shows.

As for goliaths filthy language (especially when I asked him to stop using the f word on a site with kids)& attacks ( taking the mick out of Christ on the cross with cartoons etc,) you can see them for yourself, if interested. The whole thing started here with Black Pearl talking about The princess and the frog. http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=760
Then follow the link to what’s your religion. That is when goliath said & why would we want to do that & very shortly after did just that! After they got this thread shut, I went to you tube site, that got split, & then closed in part 2 till now we are here.
I have copies of everything, so deleting anything will change nothing.
They've found it, they've found Noah's ark, & other stuff!
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/DVD-RGT.htm
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahsark.htm
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Re: The necessary derailment thread

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waltmad wrote:Trying to shut my God up is not on, & HE will not be made silent regardless of who does not like it. We do not live like China yet. I shall not discuss this any further here but will be starting with talking to Luke.
You are every single thing I said you were, Wmd. You are trolling and spamming this board and nobody cares what self-righteous reasons you have for doing so. Nobody cares that you are so messed up, you think God is making you shove your agenda down people's throats on a Disney board. But what several people on UD want is for you to get over yourself, cut the b.s. Holy Martyr act, and either post about other things or get the hell off this board. And the next time you call me a "she" (everyone knows I'm male) which is clearly an attack on the fact that I'm gay, I will report you to Luke for personal attacks.

You had your chance to talk religion productively with people, but you can't handle views that don't match your own- so you tell people they're just like Satan or that they're filthy and perverted. You are a plague here, a sad blemish on UD's record.

If I may, I'd like to suggest this thing is locked immediately.
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As I frequently skip your threads, I neaither knew you were male or homosexual, but take it any way you want mister.
They've found it, they've found Noah's ark, & other stuff!
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/DVD-RGT.htm
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahsark.htm
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Is that so- and you think that excuses your behavior? If you weren't being homophobic, you were being sexist and chauvenistic. Either way, after the way you've acted, you have no right to talk to anyone in that manner. So, if I so much as see you go after a female member of this board that way- I'll report you just the same.
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I can't wait till this thread also gets close. LOL
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Re: The necessary derailment thread

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waltmad wrote:As Little fuzzy suggested at the end of part one of this thread, (you tube part 1) it was telling them I was going to ignore them permanently
How's that working out for you? :thumb:


Regarding the "free speech" bit, this is a private forum, and the mods can do anything they want, including complete bannings of people. Rights don't really enter into it. Anyway, they aren't preventing you from posting, they just locked a thread (or two) that had devolved into bickering, from both sides. If they were trying to suppress your speech, they would have deleted all posts from you dealing with religion, instead of leaving them in the (locked) thread for all to see.

As a Christian, I don't see anything in this post really dealing with Christianity, it's just about how your feelings were hurt. I think that's what caused some of the other threads to be locked, people on both sides were jabbing at each other.

Of course, I've seen some "moral superiority" from the other side as well, where they seem compelled to go out of their way to mock and deride Christianity or someone who posts about Christianity, even if that person WASN'T "in your face" about it.
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Super Aurora wrote:I can't wait till this thread also gets close. LOL
Moi aussi. :p

To be honest, the actual title of this thread and the pretences under which the thread was started basically screams "looking for trouble". It's basically continuing the arguments that have been cropping despite CJ and others' attempts to try and restore some civility. Say what you like about free speech, but some people are really taking things too much to heart.

And a few more points:

*Il y a un chien enragé qui écume violemment. Que le fermier l'abbatte.

*I suggest that everyone read the article "Fanaticism" (fr: Fanatisme) in Voltaire's "Philosophical Dictionary". This thread brings me back to that. :roll:

*Once upon a time, in the Western world, there was something called the Enlightenment, whereby a thirst for rational knowledge brought about open mindedness, and this daringness to think out of the box brought about mass liberty and democracy on both sides of the Atlantic. Yet some people in the 21st century are really trying to undo that. And it 'aint a nameless mod. :roll:
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No one has ever tried to 'silence you', or bullied you. This is a forum, it was created for the sole purpose of discussing things, and you can't get upset just because someone disagrees with your opinion. The religion thread was closed because of personal attacks, not because anyone wanted to 'silence God'. The YouTube thread was closed because it was getting too long, and was getting derailed. The second YouTube thread was closed because there was already one similar to it. Not because the monitor didn't want you to answer Black Pearl. That monitor even said you were welcome to email or pm Black Pearl to answer their question. They just didn't want threads to be continually derailed. And about the image- in the monitors eyes it must have been offensive, otherwise it wouldn't have been removed.
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Jesus told me this thread needs to be locked. And by Jesus I mean my friend from Brazil, not the holy figure from the Bible.
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To all forum members:
-Any thread I lock also includes a post with a reason for the locking. Read those posts, there are no hidden motives.
-Anyone who has an issue with my moderating style is welcome to email Luke directly about it. I don't mind and encourage this.
-I can be reached through email or private messaging with any forum concerns you may have. I will do my best to help you.
-If I can not solve your concerns, I will forward them to Luke.
-All the other mods can be reached through email or pm too.
-The moderating staff can not catch every infraction on the forum, we encourage all members to report any infraction you see.
-Any image or text that is removed by a moderator will also have a note explaining why said item was removed.
-Personal attacks of any kind will not be tolerated.
-Circumventing forum moderation is not allowed.

This thread was created to circumvent forum moderation, therefore it is now closed.
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